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Is 10 weeks of Test too much?
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Stew Meat
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Deppnade said:
hey stew, ive heard different about the new omnas, many guys on long island are blowingggg up on the new omnas, i am gonna use em in the summer when i maintain, 1 a week, why u say they are waste, when people are blowing up on the new ones and u can get em domestically from 9-12 beans, that aint that bad is it??? curious on ur thoughts bro
Test is test. They are not "blowing up" because they are omnas. It doesn't make a difference how "new" they are unless the old ones were out of date. It is either a mental thing in that they think they are "new" so they work out harder or they have been getting bunk gear. The only difference between omnas and enthanate or propinate or whatever is the timming. Omnas release at screwed up times and fluncuate hormone levels unless they are taken eod or taken with test prop EO non injection day. Omna is for gulible newbies.
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Mass Monster
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Yea, omna's now and the sus are the same 4 esters they changed a while back and the omna is good stuff, cheap, effective, and gives nice gains. And 10 weeks of test at 500mg is perfect!
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Stew Meat
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Please forgive my rash presentation on my views of omna, but it just makes me cringe whenever I see a cycle that contains omna and sust....
This board is for education. My contribution to newbies would be to discourage use of omna or sustonon and to let them know that 4 testosteone esters is not a "stack" and there aren't different receptors for different "types" of testosterone. Each of these esters is bound to the exact same testosterone molecule. One ester is not better than another, but each has its own life span. As long as the testosterone is bound to an ester, it is inactive. Omna and Sust have long esters and short esters. This causes a large fluncuation in hormone levels between injection times and from the begining of the cycle toward the end. Sust and Omna are bad ideas and are mere marketing techniques to target newbies or those who don't know what an ester is.
-Stew
This board is for education. My contribution to newbies would be to discourage use of omna or sustonon and to let them know that 4 testosteone esters is not a "stack" and there aren't different receptors for different "types" of testosterone. Each of these esters is bound to the exact same testosterone molecule. One ester is not better than another, but each has its own life span. As long as the testosterone is bound to an ester, it is inactive. Omna and Sust have long esters and short esters. This causes a large fluncuation in hormone levels between injection times and from the begining of the cycle toward the end. Sust and Omna are bad ideas and are mere marketing techniques to target newbies or those who don't know what an ester is.
-Stew
ironbarbarian
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I AGREE WITH STEW. HES ON THE MONEY, DONT GET CAUGHT UP WITH THE "4 ESTER THING", SURE OMNA AND SUST ARE GOOD BUT NO BETTER THAN ANY OTHER ESTER.
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You have a point, Stew but.....I've done simple halflife plots of omna/sust and enanthate and they really aren't that different. If (this is a big if) the model for entering the bloodstream and leaving the oil injected IM is exponential decay, you are pretty front loaded with anything. For steady blood levels, you can't beat lots of prop injections. It all depends on your supplier I guess, but I haven't seen that enanthate is that much cheaper than omna.
I personally think that omna/sust are preferred over enanthate because they kick in faster....this is a bad thing, but when people notice results in a couple of days from the fast esters, they start to extrapolate and think they are gonna be ronnie coleman in 8 weeks.
To sum up my opinion: Stew is right, injecting a blend of long and short esters will cause more test fluctuation than enanthate on the same injection schedule and WAY more than prop injected more often....but...use what you can get. It doesn't make that much difference. If you use omna/sust, do 250mg every 3 1/2 days rather than 500mg every 7 days.
I personally think that omna/sust are preferred over enanthate because they kick in faster....this is a bad thing, but when people notice results in a couple of days from the fast esters, they start to extrapolate and think they are gonna be ronnie coleman in 8 weeks.
To sum up my opinion: Stew is right, injecting a blend of long and short esters will cause more test fluctuation than enanthate on the same injection schedule and WAY more than prop injected more often....but...use what you can get. It doesn't make that much difference. If you use omna/sust, do 250mg every 3 1/2 days rather than 500mg every 7 days.
Stew Meat said:
I disagree on one minor point after carefully rereading. The fluctuations from injection to injection are most definitely made worse by the blending, BUT, the fluctuation from the beginning of the cycle to the end is a result of using slow esters....on average sust/omna is about like enanthate (with regards to the rate at which it enters the bloodstream). It kicks in a little faster but lasts a little longer. A slow ester injected regularly will slowly build up to some maximum level that is more than what you are putting in your system with each injection. By front loading (injecting a bunch the first week) and injecting often, you can maintain near constant levels with anything.
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