kingsbury said:
ACtually 55% of new HIV cases are from heterosexuals....the fact that there are less gays does mean that HIV infects a larger percentage of gays and lesbians, but HIV does not discriminate on sexual orientation.
Again, you used statistical analysis which can make a change appear drastic depending on how you present the data, as I showed before. Also, you did not show if this was US cases or worldwide. In the US, HIV cases are primarily confined to the gay male population. This can change, as gay male cases declined for a period of time, while the heterosexual cases increased, due to the prevalence and visible effects it had on the hardest hit group..people take notice of something that affects them hardest.
As for HIV discriminating, this is wrong. HIV's transmission is very dependant on manner of sex, which is why Africans and gay men have the highest rates of transmission, i.e. greater amounts of blood transmission.
There is a difference between the racist humor heard on say Howard Stern or South Park and the racist humor of Rush Limbaugh. Howard Stern and the makers of South Park make fun of everybody and they make it clear that this is just an attempt to make people lighten up. Limbaugh makes mean spirited and hateful comments against specific groups....never once have I heard him make a joke about stupid, rich white people.
But you admit to not listening to him. He often times makes fun of such people, admittedly they are the Hollywood left or other left leaning wealthy. But the whole point is that he does not attack skin color or ethnicity, per se, but ideology, which is why he attacks the NAACP, or NOW, or Hollywood elites, etc. He DOES despise their mentality, and I find nothing wrong with pointing out the danger in their philosophies. I despise them more so than he.
Also, pulling out quotes of Limbaugh and then assuming the remainder of its context can lead to misconstrued ends.
My point being, if you're going to make offensive jokes, you have to be an equal opportunity offender.
No you don't. That is weak minded fantasy crap. If I am a self-proclaimed right wing host, who do you think my targets are? Obviously those diametrically opposed to my view, the left.
Actually gays and lesbians are denied a number of rights and priveledges. You are correct, some of the things which gays and lesbians are asking for are not constitutionally guaranteed rights. However, they are priveledges which are given to every other segment of the population. When you grant a priviledge to everyone else in a society except for a certain group, that is discrimination and that is what I'm speaking of. Also, it is currently legal for someone to be fired simply for being gay....as gays aren't included under the federal equal opportunity in employment act.
Priviledges are not implicitly equal, they are often voted on by the majority and thus can be selective. As I stated before, marriage is a priviledge in the US, by the implicit nature of requiring a lisence, just a driving is. A man is not allowed to marry more than one wife, so polygamists are discriminated against. A 12 year old cannot drive, so 12 year olds are discriminated against. Priviledges are not inherent, they are granted.
While there is no codification of sexual orientation in the Equal Opportunity Act, this does not imply that there is no recourse for being fired solely for being gay. Even though the EOA states race, you still must go to court to prove that you were discriminated against because of race, same for a homosexual. And I know that cases of sexual orientation discrimination have been brought to court.
Your assertion that you aren't threatened when someone makes a joke about white people makes sense. As the majority you have nothing to fear when someone of the minority makes an offensive remark about you. However, it is quite a bit different in my opinion when you are part of an underpriviledged class in this country and someone of the more powerful class makes an offensive remark about you. Also, I don't see a long history of bias or hatred directed towards straight, white males...can you give me some hate crimes figures on how many white guys are beaten up for being straight white guys?
Your argument is way to general to be taken honestly. A person's experiences will affect him more than the demographics of a nation. A poor white child in a predominately black neighborhood will not think like a rich white kid in a wealthy white neighborhood, yet this is the scenario that all ethno-emotionalists like to present, that somehow ALL white individuals share some "rich white person" collective mentality and ALL black individuals share the "black slave" collective mentality. This is crap. White kids in black neighborhoods are persecuted daily.
Rush's really big problem is not that he flat out lies all the time, its his way of ommitting certain contextual parts of statements and his way of twisting things that were said. He is a very talented orator, but should really label himself as more of an entertainer and not "a truth detector" or a respectable political commentator.
On some things there is no doubt that he contorts reality to fit his ideology, but you have to present the ideas and not attack the person. I despise Bill and Hillary Clinton, not because of who they are, but what ideas they promote.
Intelligent people argue ideas, not people.
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