You are going to here alot of bullshit responses from people who have never used it.Take it from me and everybody else who has used chinaman its never faked and its all goooooooD!!! IPs stuff is cheaper and higher dosed.Some people say his orals dont work and that because they didnt chew them like IP says, they are so hard they dont breakup in your stomach and you will shit it out.He makes them that hard so that they will survive shipping.His oils are good too and if you use a reseller watch out cuz some of them jack up the prices.Dont let anyone tell you his stuff is crap with out a valid reason, none of this "my friend said its crap" shit.
C'mon man, i've never tried IP, but I damn sure am not going to take the word of someone who says they gained 27 on first cycle and no water. Reminds me of a vacuum cleaner salesman saying his vacuum sucks the best, not that I'm implying that IP sucks the best