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interesting read-rush limbaugh on 9/11 and pensions...your thoughts?

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By Rush Limbaugh:

I think the vast differences in compensation between victims of the September 11 casualty and those who die serving the country in Uniform are profound. No one is really talking about it either, because you just don't criticize anything having to do with September 11. Well, I just can't let the numbers pass by because it says something really disturbing about the entitlement mentality of this country. If you lost a family member in the September 11 attack, you're going to get an average of $1,185,000. The range is a minimum guarantee of $250,000, all the way up to $4.7 million.

If you are a surviving family member of an American soldier killed in action, the first check you get is a $6,000 direct death benefit, half of which is taxable. Next, you get $1,750 for burial costs. If you are the surviving spouse, you get $833 a month until you remarry. And there's a payment of $211 per month for each child under 18. When the child hits 18, those payments come to a screeching halt.

Keep in mind that some of the people who are getting an average of $1.185 million up to $4.7 million are complaining that it's not enough. Their deaths were tragic, but for most, they were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. Soldiers put themselves in harms way FOR ALL OF US, and they and their families know the dangers.

We also learned over the weekend that some of the victims from the Oklahoma City bombing have started an organization asking for the same deal that the September 11 families are getting. In addition to that, some of the families of those bombed in the embassies are now asking for compensation as well.


You see where this is going, don't you? Folks, this is part and parcel of over 50 years of entitlement politics in this country. It's just really sad. Every time a pay raise comes up for the military, they usually receive next to nothing of a raise. Now the green machine is in combat in the Middle East while their families have to survive on food stamps and live in low-rent housing. Make sense?

However, our own U.S. Congress just voted themselves a raise, and many of you don't know that they only have to be in Congress one time to receive a pension that is more than $15,000 per month, and most are now equal to being millionaires plus. They also do not receive Social Security on retirement because they didn't have
to pay into the system.

If some of the military people stay in for 20 years and get out as an E-7, you may receive a pension of $1,000 per month, and the very people who placed you in harm's way receive a pension of $15,000 per month.

I would like to see our elected officials pick up a weapon and join ranks before they start cutting out benefits and lowering pay for our sons and daughters who are now fighting.

This must be a campaign issue in 2004.
SOCIAL SECURITY: (This is worth the read. It's short and to the point.) Many of you may have already seen this part, so it will be a depressing reminder....

Perhaps we are asking the wrong questions during election years. Our Senators and Congressmen do not pay into Social Security. Many years ago they voted
in their own benefit plan. In more recent years, no congressperson has felt the need to change it. For all practical purposes their plan works like this:

When they retire, they continue to draw the same pay until they die, except it may increase from time to time for cost of living adjustments. For example, former Senator Byrd and Congressman White and their wives may expect to draw $7,800,000 - that's Seven Million, Eight Hundred Thousand), with their wives
drawing $275,000.00 during the last years of their lives.

This is calculated on an average life span for each.

Their cost for this excellent plan is $00.00. These little perks they voted for themselves is free to them. You and I pick up the tab for this plan.

The funds for this fine retirement plan come directly from the General Fund--our tax dollars at work! >From our own Social Security Plan, which you and I pay (or have paid) into-- every payday until we retire (which amount is matched by our employer) --we can expect to get an average $1,000 per month after retirement. Or, in other words, we would have to collect our average of $1,000 monthly benefits for 68 years and one month to equal Senator Bill Bradley's benefits!

Social Security could be very good if only one small change were made. And that change would be to jerk the Golden Fleece Retirement Plan from under the
Senators and Congressmen. Put them into the Social Security plan with the rest of us and then watch how fast they would fix it.

If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of awareness will be planted and maybe good changes will evolve. WE, each one of us... can make a difference..

interesting.......I say that elected officials should get a little more than per dium pay...that way they aren't trying to get a job that pay $$ and maybe get someone in there that wants to make a difference.

By the people....for the people...only counts for the PEOPLE that have money or that can give money....@#%$, you think they give a damn about the cat that is making $8.00 an hour? I don't...... Something is wrong.....too many people are without jobs.....too many people can't pay their bills (I'm not ashamed to say that I am one of those people) The rich people (special interest groups) don't give a damn because they will always have money....they are the ones on top of the hill when the flood comes...the rest of us are the ones in the valley...working...striving...tieing two ends together to make them meet.....worrying when we go to sleep at night...what will tomorrow bring? Tomorrow will bring the same @#%$ as yesterday....the same heartaches as yesterday. Once you are screwed, you're screwed.
 
It's not possible to pay the military this much in benefits. However, I think it's sick that 9/11 families are asking for money. The government does not owe private citizens death benefits, that's why most of us working folks buy life insurance or receive it as a benefit from our employer.
 
Not a big fan of Limbaugh.

To go along with Fast Twitch, did you hear about that mother who attempted to collecte an insurance settlement on here husband who she said was killed on 9/11, yet he was perfectly fine at home? Stupid bitch even had her 7-year-old daughter lie to the insurance people.
 
superdave said:


Doesnt matter if you are a fan or not, what Rush says here makes a lot of sense.

Im not saying I dont agree with it, just saying that Im not a big fan. In retrospect, probably nobody cares.
 
David Schwimmer said:
Not a big fan of Limbaugh.

To go along with Fast Twitch, did you hear about that mother who attempted to collecte an insurance settlement on here husband who she said was killed on 9/11, yet he was perfectly fine at home? Stupid bitch even had her 7-year-old daughter lie to the insurance people.

Doesnt matter if you are a fan or not, what Rush says here makes a lot of sense.
 
Rush fails to mention that 99% of serviceman are covered by SGLI(Servicemen Group Life Insurance). Which costs them next to nothing and pays out $250,000 upon there death. ..at least that's how much it was when I left the Navy in 96'.

Agreed its no cool 1.1 million but its a lot more than the paultry sum's Rush quotes
 
Why the fuck does congress get a 6 figure lifetime pension for further fucking up the nation?
 
Frackal said:
Why the fuck does congress get a 6 figure lifetime pension for further fucking up the nation?

If they make the rules then they will sure as fuck give themselves badass pensions and retirement packages.
 
hooch said:
Rush fails to mention that 99% of serviceman are covered by SGLI(Servicemen Group Life Insurance). Which costs them next to nothing and pays out $250,000 upon there death. ..at least that's how much it was when I left the Navy in 96'.

Agreed its no cool 1.1 million but its a lot more than the paultry sum's Rush quotes
That's all I was gonna say. It's not what it should be, but it's not as bad as he makes it out either. K for pointing out the obvious.
 
Frackal said:
Why the fuck does congress get a 6 figure lifetime pension for further fucking up the nation?
If you decided how much you got when you retired, wouldn't you jack it up too? It's a fucked up system. It should be based on performance or percentage of votes actually made. Not on what they feel like giving themselves.
 
this is an old old thing. my nutcasegranny set it to me months ago. that said, te difference is that the money was donated to the victims families.
 
I think a lot of the money for the 9/11 folks came from private donations. Remember how the week after people were donating money out the ass to these people.
 
rsnoble said:
Fuck rush in his fat cookie eating asshole. If he and other extreme right wingers had their fucking way, there wouldnt be any fucking pensions. For fucking no one. Except congress fucks.

and CEOs. dont forget them.
 
Fuck rush in his fat cookie eating asshole. If he and other extreme right wingers had their fucking way, there wouldnt be any fucking pensions. For fucking no one. Except congress fucks.
 
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