interesting read on climate change...

[mrplunkey]

A large part of Exxon profits are Saudi Arabia, which taxes them at a much higher rate than the US (according to tthe Reuters article I posted above).

Cool story.

No point, but cool story.

 

[Headholio]

Cool story.

No point, but cool story.

Sorry you are unable to follow.

 

[Headholio]

Being able to operate and recognize taxes overseas isn't a loophole. If the US wants to price themselves out of the global market on taxation, they deserve to suffer the consequences.

But I am anti-loophole. I'd love to eliminate things like exploration subsidies. But let's also eliminate oil import taxes, oil environmental taxes, fuel excise taxes and the whole other mess associated with trying to persecute fossil fuels.

Since you are always up for learning new things Plunkey:

per·se·cut·edper·se·cut·ing

Definition of PERSECUTE

1
: to harass or punish in a manner designed to injure, grieve, or afflict; specifically : to cause to suffer because of belief
2
: to annoy with persistent or urgent approaches (as attacks, pleas, or importunities) : pester

Persecuting fossil fuels lol. Maybe you should put that line in your sig right after the "irregardless" one.

 

[mrplunkey]

Since you are always up for learning new things Plunkey:

per·se·cut·edper·se·cut·ing

Definition of PERSECUTE

1
: to harass or punish in a manner designed to injure, grieve, or afflict; specifically : to cause to suffer because of belief
2
: to annoy with persistent or urgent approaches (as attacks, pleas, or importunities) : pester

Persecuting fossil fuels lol. Maybe you should put that line in your sig right after the "irregardless" one.

Yeah, Barry would never "punish", "cause to suffer", "pester" or otherwise hurt the fossil fuels industry. I hear the coal guys love him these days.

 

[kx250rider]

I think what I see as the BIG picture, is that nobody knows one way or the other, and in the meantime I intend to live & let live. Giving the Left the benefit of the doubt, and we do in fact get a major climate change, we'll adapt. After all; think of all the construction jobs to build sea walls, and think of all that hydroelectric power we can have from inrush currents along the coasts, and think of all the new farming that can take place in the Mojave Desert ;-) . No reason to crush the entire fuel industry and tax the small businessman to death while all this is being hashed out.

Charles

 

[nydj66]

Personally, Id like the see nuclear and natty gas as a transition plan to something truly clean and sustainable such as solar. I dont think the necessary R&D will happen, however, until somebody fucks with our oil supply and the military gets involved.

Military + government + private industry = quick results. Seems like its all about finding a way to gather the energy outside the atmosphere and "transfer" it down to earth in a safe and efficient manner.

There's no where near enough plutonium on the planet to meet our long-term energy needs with nuclear; otherwise it'd be a great choice.

Solar is just not cost competitive yet. However, wind is and that's why that's being developed so heavily.

 

[stosstruppe]

nydj66 could you do me a favour please & provide data, graphs or whatever highlighting how CO2 levels have on the whole increased since the industrial age, mass deforestation etc occurring since the last 150 years or so.

(I realise "Google is my friend" etc though appreciate you may have the data already to hand).

 

[Headholio]

nydj66 could you do me a favour please & provide data, graphs or whatever highlighting how CO2 levels have on the whole increased since the industrial age, mass deforestation etc occurring since the last 150 years or so.

(I realise "Google is my friend" etc though appreciate you may have the data already to hand).

You can learn a lot here:

Arguments from Global Warming Skeptics and what the science really says

A little disorganized but also good:

RealClimate

 

[Headholio]

I think what I see as the BIG picture, is that nobody knows one way or the other,

Wrong

and in the meantime I intend to live & let live. Giving the Left the benefit of the doubt

,

Its not a political issue. It has nothing to do with the left. It's like saying cholesterol is liberal.

and we do in fact get a major climate change, we'll adapt. After all; think of all the construction jobs to build sea walls, and think of all that hydroelectric power we can have from inrush currents along the coasts, and think of all the new farming that can take place in the Mojave Desert ;-) .

Think of all the drought, starvation, species extinction, destruction of property, forest fires, increased poverty...

You think you you can just decide what is going on and what will happen?

No reason to crush the entire fuel industry and tax the small businessman to death while all this is being hashed out.

I know you are a lost cause, but you speaking from an extremely ignorant point of view. Read the links I posted above and get some real information. And I'm still waiting for the article on cow fluorocarbons

 

[SouthernLord]

Fuck polar bears