interesting question about receptors does anyone know??

[sixfoot2whiteboy]

i was talkin to a guy at the gym and he we got to talkin about roids, lifting etc...he was telling me that for instance if your are one of those few people who wont even grow on steroids then u wont become stronger on steroids either because your receptors arent open compared to other people..so what hes basically saying is that if you are even getting stronger on steroids than u will eventually grow because if your recptors were not open, then eveb on steroids you wouldnt get stronger, so basically he saying strength is an indicator that your receptors are either open or not...i thought receptors soley had to do with growth??? can anyone answer this?? any ideas? i actually disagree with the guy i think u can get stronger on roids but not have the receptors for muscle growth but i did tons of research and cant find any fact that hes right...or wrong...

 

[azul]

i was talkin to a guy at the gym and he we got to talkin about roids, lifting etc...he was telling me that for instance if your are one of those few people who wont even grow on steroids then u wont become stronger on steroids either because your receptors arent open compared to other people..so what hes basically saying is that if you are even getting stronger on steroids than u will eventually grow because if your recptors were not open, then eveb on steroids you wouldnt get stronger, so basically he saying strength is an indicator that your receptors are either open or not...i thought receptors soley had to do with growth??? can anyone answer this?? any ideas? i actually disagree with the guy i think u can get stronger on roids but not have the receptors for muscle growth but i did tons of research and cant find any fact that hes right...or wrong...

I suggest http://www.educate.com/creativeAds/...NWSOG-GEN-0405&CFID=14955241&CFTOKEN=79586131.

 

[silverbackn]

I think if you have low receptor affinity then you won't respond well in any regard to juice.

 

[Outtlaw]

I really wish people would proof read their post before posting a bunch of jumble that nobody can understand.

 

[sixfoot2whiteboy]

any regard meaning even strength? i guess the dude knows what hes talkin about...

 

[Ulter]

No the dude doesn't.
99.9% of all men have androgen receptors that androgens bind to. There are people who don't but in 20 years I have never met one. They are in medical literature though so yes they exist. Your chances of meeting an albino are better.

 

[roidpuple]

i was talkin to a guy at the gym and he we got to talkin about roids, lifting etc...he was telling me that for instance if your are one of those few people who wont even grow on steroids then u wont become stronger on steroids either because your receptors arent open compared to other people..so what hes basically saying is that if you are even getting stronger on steroids than u will eventually grow because if your recptors were not open, then eveb on steroids you wouldnt get stronger, so basically he saying strength is an indicator that your receptors are either open or not...i thought receptors soley had to do with growth??? can anyone answer this?? any ideas? i actually disagree with the guy i think u can get stronger on roids but not have the receptors for muscle growth but i did tons of research and cant find any fact that hes right...or wrong...

I am not sure what this is asking?? ??

 

[cornfish]

I suggest http://www.educate.com/creativeAds/...NWSOG-GEN-0405&CFID=14955241&CFTOKEN=79586131.

Still laughing even after clicking on this 10 minutes ago

 

[artrius]

There are people who don't but in 20 years I have never met one.

I don't know what exactly constitutes low receptor affinity, but I'm getting ready to finish off my first cycle (tren E, test E, winny) and have had NO noticable increase in strength (other than the rate I normally grow at) or fat loss. yes its a good source.

 

[Ulter]

My guess is you either have fake gear, good source or not, you didn't eat enough, or there is another piece of the puzzle missing. Without the doses I wouldn't know where to begin.

 

[artrius]

My guess is you either have fake gear, good source or not, you didn't eat enough, or there is another piece of the puzzle missing. Without the doses I wouldn't know where to begin.

500 mg/ew tren E, 200 mg/ew test E, 50 mg/ed oral winny. Kcals were around 3k, 40/40/20 (p/c/f). as for the fake gear, well i got it from a trusted source on this board and by the brand, it *should* be good gear. I haven't read too much about the lab that makes it, though.

 

[artrius]

oh and btw the winny was run for about 7 weeks, just finished it off.

 

[Ulter]

3000 cals? Well that's one problem.
How old are you and what are your stats.

 

[artrius]

22 y/o, been lifting 7 years, about 18% bf. the goal of the cycle was not mass, but to help lose bodyfat, that's why cals were low.

 

[Ulter]

22 y/o, been lifting 7 years, about 18% bf. the goal of the cycle was not mass, but to help lose bodyfat, that's why cals were low.

And that's why you didn't grow.

 

[artrius]

i wasn't expecting to... like I said, was going for fat loss, which I haven't seen very much of...

 

[Ulter]

steroids are not a replacement for cardio/T3/fat burners. No offense bro but you wasted your gear. It's not unusual here these days though.

 

[artrius]

hmmm well I posted my proposed cycle and GOALS up here and people said it looked good... got a good amount of replies.... so I went with it...

 

[artrius]

ok so what caloric level do you recommend, then?

 

[Ulter]

I didn't see it. There are threads here with 30 wrong answers. LOL!!! Mostly because details are missing. Like what you planned to do to burn that fat besides inject tren. If you don't use more cals than you eat the steroids aren't going to make that up for you.

 

[Ulter]

ok so what caloric level do you recommend, then?

A 500 cal a day deficit would have done wonders.

 

[artrius]

so what would you recommend for intake on such a cycle?

 

[artrius]

so what would you recommend for intake on such a cycle?

i mean for lean mass gains w/o a lot of fat gains....

 

[sixfoot2whiteboy]

just to clear things up basically the guy told me strength and size on roids are simultaneous, u cant have one without the other, if ur receptors didint work you would not see any muscle growth and aslo u would see no strengths gain..its not like u would see one and not the other, u either see both (strength and size) or nothin at all..

 

[Ulter]

mass comes with fat. The stupidest thing I see posted over and over and over is....
What do I use to gain lots of lean mass and not put on fat. Guess what? There's no such thing. Not in 10 weeks there isn't. What you need to do is get closer to 12 than 18% FIRST. You don't put on LBM without fat and you don't take off fat without losing LBM, period.

Take the winny and use that for another 6 weeks and use T3 25mcg/day, rotate clen and Thermorexin every two weeks and get on the tread and do windsprints til you drop. At 2000 cals/day. When that's over go up to 4000 cals for 6 weeks and go back to your tren/test cycle just the way you did it the first time, keep the clen/Thermorexin, just drop the T3. Call me when it's over for your next move.

 

[Ulter]

just to clear things up basically the guy told me strength and size on roids are simultaneous, u cant have one without the other, if ur receptors didint work you would not see any muscle growth and aslo u would see no strengths gain..its not like u would see one and not the other, u either see both (strength and size) or nothin at all..

Size doesn't equal strength nor vise-versa but I know he's getting at. You should notice something or you're a non-responder.

 

[sparetire]

I really wish people would proof read their post before posting a bunch of jumble that nobody can understand.

i read bout 2 lines and gave up...it's hard to believe that people can't punctuate in this day and age..

 

[roidpuple]

just to clear things up basically the guy told me strength and size on roids are simultaneous, u cant have one without the other, if ur receptors didint work you would not see any muscle growth and aslo u would see no strengths gain..its not like u would see one and not the other, u either see both (strength and size) or nothin at all..

your receptors are going to work.. no matter what.. it is just how many you have...

and you can gain strength withougt size.. some people are just like that..
depends on the type of muscle you have..

i have seem many guys that were strong as hell squatting 350 or more for reps will little stick legs.. por guys... and penchening 300 plus when they look like they should be doing only 135... my younger brother is 6'1" is arms are 13 inches and he can bench 315 1rep.. so it just all depends.