Interesting article in the new Muscular Development

[ShawnRay]

Dave Palumbo

I am by no means a fan of his physique but, please with the guy is an idiot bullshit....Not one person on this thread could hold a candle to his knowledge on the chemical game....Like it or not he is one smart bastard...Put his brains with some decent genetics and it would be a different ball game....He has an education and didnt just start spirting out advice from what he has learned in two years of board surfing....Im not trying to step on anyones toes with the truth here but, he is always in rock hard condition year around. He also hasnt come across any of the same health problems we are seeing on the guys trying to get in half the shape he is... Like I said minus his physique as a whole he is incredible to see in person....Narc.SR

 

[anabolicmd]

Re: Dave Palumbo

I am by no means a fan of his physique but, please with the guy is an idiot bullshit....Not one person on this thread could hold a candle to his knowledge on the chemical game....Like it or not he is one smart bastard...Put his brains with some decent genetics and it would be a different ball game....He has an education and didnt just start spirting out advice from what he has learned in two years of board surfing....Im not trying to step on anyones toes with the truth here but, he is always in rock hard condition year around. He also hasnt come across any of the same health problems we are seeing on the guys trying to get in half the shape he is... Like I said minus his physique as a whole he is incredible to see in person....Narc.SR

Oh yeah, Palumbo is a BB genius

 

[Stillgoing]

yeah, 250mg/week natty is waaaaaayyy fuckin high, unless your nuts are the size of large grapefruits, then i could see that. i was readin rick collins book legal muscle, and he said the that average male produces about somewhere from 5-7mg/day, thats nowhere near 250mg/week. what a jackass. oh yeah, i couldn't get the exact amount from the book cuz i don't have it right now, my lawyer does,lol. later

1- Every bro on HRT needs a different dose to put them at top of "normal" scale. Some do need up to 200mg per week or more. Some need substantially less.

2- Regarding average male daily production, also remember, of a 200mg dose of cypionate, a portion of that is the ester and so delivery of actual test is diluted.

 

[Stillgoing]

I was reading the latest MD and came across an article by Dave Palumbo. Man this guy recommends massive doses! In this article he said that the average adult male (didn't specify age) produces approximately 250mg of test a week naturally. Therefore, if I were to run 500mg of Test E a week, once my natural test production shut down, I would actually only be adding 250mg. He recommends at least 750mg to 1000. With that said, could you guys give help me revise my next cycle since that article made me think twice. Here it is:

What I got: 20 Testovirons (250mg); 300 BD Dbol; 50 Proviron; also going to convert a 4 gram kit of fina. Nolva and HCG for later.

Now I was going to run the Test at 500mg a week, two shots a week. Do you think it would be wise to up that dosage to 750mg? Like this...

Week 1-10.....750mg/week Test Enan
Week 1-6.......30mg Dbol/day
Week 1-6.......Tren 75mg/day
Never used Proviron so any advice on when and how to run would be appreciated.

By the way, previous cycles consisted of Prop 500mg/week and Tren 75mg/day each for 12 weeks. Thanks Bro's

No, you don't need to up the dose based on what Dave Palumbo says in a magazine. Further, I would revise your cycle as follows:

Test 500mg wk 1-10
Dbol 30mg ED 1-6
Tren 75mg ED 8-13

(or you can just as easily switch dbol & tren around, run dbol at end - this may be a little easier to recover from)

Begin nolv 3 days after last shot of tren. Run some anti-arom or anti-e through cycle. Alot of this will depend on if your gyno sensitive or not. If you run HCG, run it wks 11-13.

 

[Citruscide]

250 per week in natural production would be WAY WAY in the high range. Most guys fit in the 75-100mg category.

You can run your test at 500-600mg range IMO with no problems. Anything more is personal prefrence and you reach a point of diminishing returns with TEST. But then again some brolys run 2000mg per week,again it's all about preference and experimenting to find what works for you.

Agreed.

C-ditty

 

[lostlazy]

Stillgoing has the right idea.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Re: Dave Palumbo

I am by no means a fan of his physique but, please with the guy is an idiot bullshit....Not one person on this thread could hold a candle to his knowledge on the chemical game....Like it or not he is one smart bastard...Put his brains with some decent genetics and it would be a different ball game....He has an education and didnt just start spirting out advice from what he has learned in two years of board surfing....Im not trying to step on anyones toes with the truth here but, he is always in rock hard condition year around. He also hasnt come across any of the same health problems we are seeing on the guys trying to get in half the shape he is... Like I said minus his physique as a whole he is incredible to see in person....Narc.SR

Interesting point. His structure sucks, but for the most part that is genetic. Still, the guy is freakishly big, and has abes 365 days a year. He diets 5 weeks for a contest, and is a minimum of 280 ibs in the offseason, and stays very very lean. So, clearly he knows something about what he is doing. And SR is right, he is educated. I see guys on here with no college education, or a degree is business, with no science background, who don't possess anywhere near the size or density that Dave possesses, giving advice and being listened to every day on this board, and being respected for their input. Yet, people are always bashing DP. Is there something wrong with this picture?

 

[jasonstrong]

The most potent adult produces 7-11 mg of test a day which would be 77mgs. Natural bb'ers produce more from training. Dzullboy and others hit it on the head.
Sheeet I wish!
My first cycle was 200mg per week for 6 weeks and I gained 18 lbs....

 

[Stillgoing]

Re: Re: Dave Palumbo

Interesting point. His structure sucks, but for the most part that is genetic. Still, the guy is freakishly big, and has abes 365 days a year. He diets 5 weeks for a contest, and is a minimum of 280 ibs in the offseason, and stays very very lean. So, clearly he knows something about what he is doing. And SR is right, he is educated. I see guys on here with no college education, or a degree is business, with no science background, who don't possess anywhere near the size or density that Dave possesses, giving advice and being listened to every day on this board, and being respected for their input. Yet, people are always bashing DP. Is there something wrong with this picture?

Welcome to the life of a top national level competitor/pro in the internet age, I guess....He certainly does seem to stay in amazing shape all year round....

 

[dusty2]

ever tried t-bomb? it's made from a company i believe it's called mph. 1-test products like this should help.