insulin pet peeve

[jc21]

ok i see almost everyonedoes this wrong, but insulin is not measured in iu's, it is measured in units. where as gh is measured in iu's. this should clear up the whole question on how to measure insulin. in a standard insulin needle there is 1cc, which comes out to 100 units which makes it easy to measure.

 

[marx]

I know what you mean jc, i cringe everytime someone says iu's when talking about slin...

 

[Zerxes]

Good advice. Someone might end up on a slab if they get the two measurements reversed.

 

[Bulldog_10]

So 10 units is 1/10 of a cc? That ain't shit...Seems like it woould be kinda hard to measure...

 

[Zerxes]

So 10 units is 1/10 of a cc? That ain't shit...Seems like it woould be kinda hard to measure...

Thats why they invented Insulin Pins Im going to assume brother! That would be a 10 on a standard 1cc syringe.

 

[Bulldog_10]

Thats why they invented Insulin Pins Im going to assume brother! That would be a 10 on a standard 1cc syringe.

Oh I know how to meansure how much you have in the syringe...but when injecting, some of the liquid must not get all the way out of the pin...and that could be a large percentage of a small dose like 1/10 of a cc.

You know how after you inject 1cc when you pull out, you can still force a few more drops of juice out of the pin? That must also happen with slin right? How much of 1/10 of a cc would those drops be?

 

[Dr.RobertBanner]

ok i see almost everyonedoes this wrong, but insulin is not measured in iu's, it is measured in units. where as gh is measured in iu's. this should clear up the whole question on how to measure insulin. in a standard insulin needle there is 1cc, which comes out to 100 units which makes it easy to measure.

didn't know, thanks

 

[jc21]

You know how after you inject 1cc when you pull out, you can still force a few more drops of juice out of the pin? That must also happen with slin right? How much of 1/10 of a cc would those drops be?

well from all the times i used a insulin needle there isnt any left at all in the pin, maybe one tiny drop sometimes. since the barrel is so small i think it is easier for all of it to get out. if in doubt throw in another unit i guess.

 

[Bulldog_10]

well from all the times i used a insulin needle there isnt any left at all in the pin, maybe one tiny drop sometimes. since the barrel is so small i think it is easier for all of it to get out. if in doubt throw in another unit i guess.

What guage are slin pins?

 

[jc21]

28 gauge

 

[g-dogg]

sometimes 29 gauge too--I have the same pet peeve about units vs. iu's-drives me crazy

 

[SaltyOlPirate]

I'd hate to hear about somebody going to the hospital or worse because of this mixup.

 

[ironmaster]

Darn, jc21 and marx......I don't mean to be argumentative, but insulin is indeed measured in iu's, and those who say so are stating it correctly.
Here is the definition of "International Units" from the International Bureau of Weights and Measures (BIPM). This agency administers the International System of Units,

international unit (IU)
a unit used to measure the mass of certain vitamins and drugs based on their expected effects. For each substance to which this unit applies, there is an international agreement specifying the biological effect expected with a dose of 1 IU. Other quantities of the substance are then expressed as multiples of this standard. Examples: 1 IU represents 45.5 micrograms of a standard preparation of insulin or 0.6 microgram of a standard preparation of penicillin. Consumers most often see IU's on the labels of vitamin packages: the equivalent of 1 IU is 0.3 microgram (0.0003 mg) for vitamin A, 50 micrograms (0.05 mg) for vitamin C, 25 nanograms (0.000 025 mg) for vitamin D, and 2/3 milligram for vitamin E.

GH is also measured in "iu's", but because GH has a different mass than insulin, GH iu's are not the same as insulin iu's.

 

[SUST-MAN]

Iron is right. IU's are not the same type of measurement as cc's.

1 cc is the same nomatter what liquid you are using....But 1iu can vary depending on the concentration of the substance.

 

[Dr.RobertBanner]

What guage are slin pins?

I've seen 28-30 gauge, although once they get that small, you can't feel them anyway so it doesn't matter.

 

[Nathan]

So, on an insulin pin there are 100 units. You then fill it be at the 10 unit mark (work your way up to that dose from maybe 4-5 units). That is 1/10 of the insulin pin. Any insulin pin. If I am wrong correct me cause I'd rather come off as a moron and be corrected than die being a moron.

 

[jc21]

ironmaster i understand your point...but i am looking at my humalin R right now and it clearly states 100units/mL.

 

[Zerxes]

So, on an insulin pin there are 100 units. You then fill it be at the 10 unit mark (work your way up to that dose from maybe 4-5 units). That is 1/10 of the insulin pin. Any insulin pin. If I am wrong correct me cause I'd rather come off as a moron and be corrected than die being a moron.

There are both 1/2cc as well as 1cc Insulin Pins available that I have seen bro. Either way, the "10" mark on either is considered 1/10th of a Cubic Centimeter(cc), or 10 ius. So yes you were correct, if I read you right.

 

[beastie]

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Ok, so... Please clarify for me.

Can one unit in a slin pin be used as one IU for HG?

Basicly 1iu = 1unit in a slin pin?

 

[ironmaster]

No, beastie. The conversion is 5.5 to 1 assuming the same volume of water for 18iu per ml/cc GH solutions. The figure goes up if the concentration of GH to water goes down.
You can mail me on this, but I need to know how many mg GH and the volume of h20 to be used in the conversion.

 

[jc21]

this is how i do my gh measurement.

say you have serostim 18iu bottles. take the water and
put .9cc(90units) into the bottle containing the gh.
now you have 18iu's/.9cc or 2iu's per 10units. now say
you wanna inject 4iu's. you pull out .2cc(20units) and
inject it. the insulin syringe will have markings from
10-100units. 100units equals 1cc. there is no markings
for iu's since iu's is not a measurement of volume.