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Mr.X said:
Most, if not all, of the information you'll hear is subjective at best. Since you wanted some personal feedback, I'll come out with some info for you.

In my case, I didn't start AS at the right time purely based on the lack of proper information at the time. In my day, I was given horrible advice, like "use deca for your off cycle." etc.. However, my personal growth, in terms of height and width was not hindered. I am a lot taller then average 5-10 and a lot wider then most folks; thus, I really can't say AS stunted anything for me, but from the studies I've read it does seem possible.

Mr. X, I was hoping to hear from you. Normally I post here and there there under another identity and I remember reading in the past that you had started early and were told to take some crazy amount of drol everyday. I value your response greatly, I cant thank you enough for posting.

Don't worry fellas, the K is komming
 
timtim said:
real good advice there with the hgh..... :rolleyes:

did you even read his post? he no aas experience besides some dbol. real BAD advice.

HAHA. You guys think some synthol in my delts will help with my narrow shoulders ?
See ? I can be stupid too :p
 
500 mg / 35 = 15 mg p/d +(1-2)
That's not a lot and should not have done any damage.
I would have expected better results seeing your body was virgin.

I did about 10mg a day over 5 weeks at 18 with a Doc
because I was so skinny. Went from 165 to 185.
Had no effect on my final height of 6 feet.
 
gigidy gigidy goo said:
Mr. X, I was hoping to hear from you. Normally I post here and there there under another identity and I remember reading in the past that you had started early and were told to take some crazy amount of drol everyday. I value your response greatly, I cant thank you enough for posting.

Correct. I was told high anadrol dosages were an idea cycle, I was told Deca is an ideal "PCT", but that's just a start. I hope people learn from EF and don't make the same mistakes. When I started AS, the best information was available from "Mr. permanent lat spread" at the gym.
 
timtim said:
real good advice there with the hgh..... :rolleyes:

did you even read his post? he no aas experience besides some dbol. real BAD advice.


i was being facetious.
 
Honestly I took it as a joke as well so no worries my man.

Now I have to beat the dead horse a little more. Mr. X would mind telling us at what age your use started or PM me if you dont feel comfortable announcing it to everyone ? Also am I to understand that this early use was primarily anadrol and deca, which if I remember correctly both metabolize to progesterone or some form of ? Did any of this early use include dianabol ? Why I ask is that estrogen seems to be the primary culprit when it comes to hastening the closure of the growth plates and among all anabolic substaces the form of estradiol dbol converts to is particularly potent. This is what lends to the massive water retention at such relatively small dosages, compared to test for instance. As one member mentioned earlier his doctor prescribed dbol for an equal period of time to what I took it for at roughly the same dosage and is confident he developed naturally, so that's very reasurring. Albeit my average dosage as I tapered mine up and down (maxed out at 30mg for a little over a week). Again thanks for everyone's insight and I am really feeling much better about this whole matter. It is much easier to accept that my shortcommings are genetic, at least I know that I had little control over.
If anyone else cares to share thier feelings on this matter please do. I can never have enough information.
 
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