im winny not toxic

[Bruce]

my best friend refuses to use anything but winstrol, he has done 50mg eod for 2 straight years no stopping no pct except a little nolva at the end. he just went to the doc after i told him he was gonna get hepatitis. he has perfect liver values, i am amazed. also had fine bloodwork and sperm was fine. just makes u wonder if inject winny is toxic or if doing eod is less harmful. he is 6 foot 205 5% bf, sick looking so it def worked.

 

[|3ossman]

he must must be the bald guy at my gym who always complains about his joints.

 

[Bruce]

no dog, he has a thicker head of hair than anyman ive seen. he is half irish half syrian so he is dark but doesn't look ethic. hairy as hell. bro he is a specimen. only 24 anyway. here is the thing, he has had an oxicontin problem for a while, and that is why all these tests were just run. he was pumping on pk's and prob couldn't feel it.

 

[|3ossman]

wow, id think oxicontin would be liver toxic also. that's crazy how long he's been on with no sides or liver problems. Wish i could get away with that. just goes to show how different everyones genes are. one guy takes dbol for 6 weeks and has liver problems, and your boy stays on winny for 2 years! and no problems.

 

[Bruce]

agreed. he was takin an 80 in the mornin and half one at night. he should have hepatitis. i will say this though, he had girls all over him last semester and had no sex drive at all, just didn't care. so that def is a prob. he got me into the shit and told me u could take winny year round eod, i was a newb to gear not even this site. i admit my first cycle i don't count was really winny 50 eod for like 6 months man, i swear, i had no clue how to eat, training was fine, all i did was shred a little. when i learned shit on here did deca alone 12 weeks ate right bam 20 lbs. this kid doesn't fuckin eat either which is just annoying. i have to pound food. and my liver was fine too but i didn't to 2 years with oc's

 

[Fukkenshredded]

OC is not liver toxic. Winny is. He is the exception, if what he claims is true. Remember, I did winny for months and months and had to add X and meth and acohol every weekend for weeks before having liver failure.

 

[Madcow2]

The drug is the same and it hits the liver in the same way, the only thing IM misses is first pass which is pretty inconsequential. It also provides a more sustained release, hence the EOD possibility. Bottom line is that the human body can take a fair amount of abuse and everyone tolerates things a bit differently. How you choose to use and abuse your body is a personal choice. I kind of value mine so I've always tended to play it safe.

 

[|3ossman]

howd that turn out fukkenshredded? im scared of liver problems obviously, but i dont really know "what happens"

 

[Bruce]

i do as well my friend i endlessly tell him to come on here and learn that he is wrong. he very intelligent but stubborn so doesn't think he is wrong. i will never do it. just saying i think people overrate how toxic it is

 

[silverbackn]

I have heard some bad shit about oxycontin. I'm scared to death of that shit, I have never messes around with any pain killers at all. I don't even take OTC stuff. I, like most on this board, have an addictive personality. I would be checking into Betty Ford in 2 weeks if I started fucking with that shit.

 

[|3ossman]

orals/17aa's are definatly blown out of proportion in that respect, but you still need to be cautious. Or if you have any existing liver conditions, you would even want to think about it.

 

[|3ossman]

I have heard some bad shit about oxycontin. I'm scared to death of that shit, I have never messes around with any pain killers at all. I don't even take OTC stuff. I, like most on this board, have an addictive personality. I would be checking into Betty Ford in 2 weeks if I started fucking with that shit.

i took a 50mg oxycontin once in highschool and i was wasted for like 10 hours lol. BAD shit

 

[silverbackn]

That's why I'm afraid of it! I would be a trainwreck.

 

[fonixer]

any opioid
is bad bad news
be it herion or oc :>

 

[Bruce]

yep had to have gallbladder surgery but was mid cycle so tried puttin it off for 5 months and took vicodin. shit i was addicted, i went thru a weak of hell. i will never use that shit again

 

[|3ossman]

yep had to have gallbladder surgery but was mid cycle so tried puttin it off for 5 months and took vicodin. shit i was addicted, i went thru a weak of hell. i will never use that shit again

i got hooked on those bad too after my wisdom teeth got yanked. went through 2 bottle (my script), then picked from my old ladies fathers script lol (he wasnt using it). they knew, it started with like 50 pills, and i stopped when like 3 were left lol

 

[Guvna]

1) 50mgs eod is not much

2) Your liver grows accustom to the strain after a while

3) most 17aa liver toxicities are blown out of proportion

4) He has no libido, who cares what he looks like.

5) his crash is going to suck

6) (most importantly) How is his lipids, c-reactive, and trigs?

 

[Bruce]

everything is fine with him. he is off now cause he had to get detoxed and there has been no crash. he is gonna take some nolva so he'll be fine. i was reading that aids patients take 30-60mg ed of dbol for months and don't have liver complications

 

[The Terminator]

Its amazing how forgiving a young mans body can be at times...

It ISNT always like that though...

 

[DIVISION]

wow, id think oxicontin would be liver toxic also. that's crazy how long he's been on with no sides or liver problems. Wish i could get away with that. just goes to show how different everyones genes are. one guy takes dbol for 6 weeks and has liver problems, and your boy stays on winny for 2 years! and no problems.

I posted awhile back how I've been using Winstrol @ 50MG ed for extended periods (8-12 months) without elevated liver enzymes. Not only that but I don't get any joint problems from it either.....so yeah, genetics determine how it affects you.





DIV

 

[WannaBeBig72]

agreed. he was takin an 80 in the mornin and half one at night. he should have hepatitis. i will say this though, he had girls all over him last semester and had no sex drive at all, just didn't care. so that def is a prob. he got me into the shit and told me u could take winny year round eod, i was a newb to gear not even this site. i admit my first cycle i don't count was really winny 50 eod for like 6 months man, i swear, i had no clue how to eat, training was fine, all i did was shred a little. when i learned shit on here did deca alone 12 weeks ate right bam 20 lbs. this kid doesn't fuckin eat either which is just annoying. i have to pound food. and my liver was fine too but i didn't to 2 years with oc's

Why would he have hepatitis? Hepatitis is a virus that you will only get from sharing a needle with someone who has it. You can also get it from unsafe sex. You're not going to get hepatitis out of the blue. You need to come in contact with it.