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I'm throwing in the Towel
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WelshInjectable
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Sorry to hear that mate, whats yur previous cycles been like? Maybe try Var, pretty mild.
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THE_BIG_FED
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no sense doing clomid, i'm sure your body can rebound naturally from a few weeks of low dose dbol.
my last cycle was sust and it didnt happen, before that- dbol and didnt happen, but before that it was fina and it happened. it hink it is related to tress in my personal life too tho. either way, i dont think it is worth spending the day at the dr yesterday and going to get an ultra sound for my heart saturday. i wont quit lfting EVER, i'm just going to go natural for now.
WelshInjectable
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Well you've done strong gear before, although your dbol dose wasnt that high. Try a mild anabolic like primo or var as a last resort if you want but if your that worried then natural it is mate.
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THE_BIG_FED
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fina makes me paranoid with anxiety......but i am doing it again with benzo's now this time. so far so good, crossing fingers. using EQ too. but maybe using meds for your anxiety while on cycle is a good idea (although everyone will chime in you'll get addicted to xanax or whatever). certain people are anxiety prone, and AAS brings it to the forefront at times. so if your doc is cool with it, maybe some sort of med for anxiety and you can use these drugs again. or like stated, go with anavar or something ultra mild.
At least you have the common sense to realize that you and Dbol dont get along and you are stopping. One of my pet peeves is when people simply stack meds on top of meds to deal with issues that arise from the cycle instead of just stopping the cycle and moving onto to one that is more favorable to them.toughdawg said:
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THE_BIG_FED
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Re: Re: I'm throwing in the Towel
anxiety from a cycle means anxiety in life. now or later. so it needs to be addressed with medication or whatever. do you have a problem with anxiety? if not, you wouldn't know.
Zyglamail said:
anxiety from a cycle means anxiety in life. now or later. so it needs to be addressed with medication or whatever. do you have a problem with anxiety? if not, you wouldn't know.
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Well, some people seem to exhibit anxiety when on a cycle but are otherwise fine in life, in those situations I think sticking to AAS(or doses) that does not cause anxiety are the key. As for having anxiety in everyday life, many people wont like this opinion, but I do not feel AAS should be used by those with mental issues such as anxiety, depression etc. It just exacerbates the problem. If your currently being treated for a condition and have your Docs approval then fine but otherwise I thinks AAS should be avoided. Responsible use is going to be the key to getting AAS decriminalized and irresponsible use will just give the gov even more ammunition to keep it where its at.THE_BIG_FED said:
Bulldog_10
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Sucks bro...but it's probably for the best. And you guys are retarded...this guy comes on here and says that steroids don't agree with him and he is going to stop, and you guys suggest more cycles for him to take.
I know he's taken other cycles and been fine, but if he says he's had enough, he's had enough. I think he knows his body a little (actually alot) better than anyone on here. So if he says he's done, he's done.
I'm glad you realized it now though bro, before things got worse. Most people wouldn't want to "waste" the cycle, which is completely retarded.
Keep us updated bro...hope everything goes well.
I know he's taken other cycles and been fine, but if he says he's had enough, he's had enough. I think he knows his body a little (actually alot) better than anyone on here. So if he says he's done, he's done.
I'm glad you realized it now though bro, before things got worse. Most people wouldn't want to "waste" the cycle, which is completely retarded.
Keep us updated bro...hope everything goes well.
Lumberg
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Big Fed I didn't realize you were on benzos too. Do you take them on training days?
I was talking with my doc and I said "SO it wouldn't be a good idea to take the Ativan before I go to the gym" and he was like, no.
He's cool with timing the doses to accomodate your life and shit.
Overall I think benzos are best used while awake. Using them to sleep fucks up your sleep patterns and you aren't around to enjoy the benefits!
I just wish recreational benzos were more accepted. I mean, wouldn't it be cool if rather than playing a drinking game you could play a game where you took benzos? That would be so cool.
Drinking makes you piss and stumble around and smell bad and adds calories and shit. Benzos just make you feel loose.
I was talking with my doc and I said "SO it wouldn't be a good idea to take the Ativan before I go to the gym" and he was like, no.
He's cool with timing the doses to accomodate your life and shit.
Overall I think benzos are best used while awake. Using them to sleep fucks up your sleep patterns and you aren't around to enjoy the benefits!
I just wish recreational benzos were more accepted. I mean, wouldn't it be cool if rather than playing a drinking game you could play a game where you took benzos? That would be so cool.
Drinking makes you piss and stumble around and smell bad and adds calories and shit. Benzos just make you feel loose.
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Lumberg said:
lol. i agree. weed stinks and is nasty, alchohol is the same thing and really fucks you up so you are out of control.........so i say benzos are fine if you use them responsibly, mostly for anti-anxiety of course....but no harm in getting wacked out a little every once and a while and taking a double dose
. i take my first half pill klonipin immediately after w/o (no effect on w/o then).....the second 1/2 (for 2mg total) in the afternoon between jobs. i am also on ambien right now for fear of fina making me sleepless. i hate that, losing sleep over an AAS.....kinda ass backwards. the AAS can't help you grow if you don't sleep. i dread coming off the ambien when i am done with fina and EQ. probably will be trouble. oh well, my grave i'll lay in it then.
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i agree actually....i exhibit social anxiety, obsessive thoughts (not half as bad as most, but to an extent) and also aggressive behaviour when made angry. so i am not a candidate for AAS. but at this point i don't give a shit, and do it anyway even though i know its probably the wrong thing for me. i mean why make anger and anxiety worse? they are the worst things if you ask me. anxiety makes you feel like shit, and anger management issues get you in trouble if you don't control yourself. between getting arrested for fighting or getting your ass kicked, lol, or getting fired from your job for being a maniac. oh well, at least i know what i am doing and the mechanics behind it......even though its the wrong thing. the benzos help w/o the AAS and help for the most part with AAS....just that nothing can control it totally if you mix AAS in there if you ask me (at least in my case).
Zyglamail said:
i agree actually....i exhibit social anxiety, obsessive thoughts (not half as bad as most, but to an extent) and also aggressive behaviour when made angry. so i am not a candidate for AAS. but at this point i don't give a shit, and do it anyway even though i know its probably the wrong thing for me. i mean why make anger and anxiety worse? they are the worst things if you ask me. anxiety makes you feel like shit, and anger management issues get you in trouble if you don't control yourself. between getting arrested for fighting or getting your ass kicked, lol, or getting fired from your job for being a maniac. oh well, at least i know what i am doing and the mechanics behind it......even though its the wrong thing. the benzos help w/o the AAS and help for the most part with AAS....just that nothing can control it totally if you mix AAS in there if you ask me (at least in my case).
Lumberg
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THE_BIG_FED said:
lol. i agree. weed stinks and is nasty, alchohol is the same thing and really fucks you up so you are out of control.........so i say benzos are fine if you use them responsibly, mostly for anti-anxiety of course....but no harm in getting wacked out a little every once and a while and taking a double dose
Dude with ambien I just get up like 4-6 hours later. it sucks. when I told me doc this he gave me sonata because it's a 3-4 hour drug so when I get up it will be earlier and I will have time to take another one. but it's B.S., it doesn't work.
I heard Xanax is a fuckin' addictive drug. My ex says the Getting off Ativan was really tough for her too. Well I have prescriptions for 400 more ativans so I should be good to go.
Holy shit I just tried to call in a refill and they wouldn't do it because it was less than a month. Fucking bullshit!
Taking something that you know causes anxiety and then taking an addictive compound like benzos to counteract it is just about the stupidest thing I ever heard someone try to rationalize. That's like taking Milk of Magnesia to counteract the E-Lax you took because you wanted a piece of chocolate. (No, actually, it's even more stupid ).
There's a term for that type of behavior. What is it again? Oh yeah...drug addiction.
There's a term for that type of behavior. What is it again? Oh yeah...drug addiction.
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THE_BIG_FED
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Nelson Montana said:
what nonsense. i said i take benzos for everyday life. not for AAS use. just that it helps with the fina anxiety i get real bad. no other drug does that to me, but i am stubborn and wanted to go at fina again. i can do AAS w/o benzos and be the same person i am while not taking benzos and not taking AAS. so make sure to read the post before making wisecracks.
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Lumberg said:
1/2 an ambien and i am up like you said. 1 10mg full pill and i am just fine with about 8-9 hours sleep with a little groggyness that passes before my workout starts. keeps me asleep. i stay away from xanax myself, it makes me "dumb" as i stated before. i forget things, slur words and shit like that. klonipin just makes me a bit lethargic at times. but xanax is KILLER for sleep i must say! holy shit, 1/2 xanax knocks my ass straight out! 1mg and i am in a coma. better than ambien by far and away. yeah, a friend was pissed he couldn't snort his oxy 80's due to the one month rule. damn oxy addict! lol.
..................Bulldog_10 said:Sucks bro...but it's probably for the best. And you guys are retarded...this guy comes on here and says that steroids don't agree with him and he is going to stop, and you guys suggest more cycles for him to take.
I know he's taken other cycles and been fine, but if he says he's had enough, he's had enough. I think he knows his body a little (actually alot) better than anyone on here. So if he says he's done, he's done.
I'm glad you realized it now though bro, before things got worse. Most people wouldn't want to "waste" the cycle, which is completely retarded.
Keep us updated bro...hope everything goes well.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree with him. (Gulp!)
BIG FED: Keep telling yourself whatever you need to hear bro. But using a powerful drug to counteract a medical condition is not something that a rationial person leans on. It's something to overcome. Thinking it's alright to take another drug that exasperates the anxiety just because you have benzos is idiotic. If you can't see that, I'm sorry. I wish you the best.
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Nelson Montana said:
i am usually very mentally strong and can overcome any anxiety on my own. just that sometimes things get to be rough, and you need a little assisstance. its nice not to have the crazy thoughts every day. believe me i can stop taking anything anytime. feels better on them then off at this time though. again, i did not say it was ok to take another drug that exasperates the anxiety since i am on benzos (read the goddamn post for the love of GOD again)....just that i was already on them and figured i'd be alright with a 6 week fina run. is that ok daddy? lol. jesus christ.
Bulldog_10
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Nelson Montana said:
haha...forget it, I retract my statement
The_Eviscerator
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Re: Re: I'm throwing in the Towel
Very true Zyg. When something has a negative effect, delete it from your arsenal. For me, Test and D-bol turn me into a bloated, zit factory. Now I limit test to a max of 200mg a week. I use tren, primo, deca and EQ and get great clean results without all the shitty sides. If a substance is making you miserable, get rid of it... There are enough effective compounds out there to ban a few from your arsenal.
Zyglamail said:
Very true Zyg. When something has a negative effect, delete it from your arsenal. For me, Test and D-bol turn me into a bloated, zit factory. Now I limit test to a max of 200mg a week. I use tren, primo, deca and EQ and get great clean results without all the shitty sides. If a substance is making you miserable, get rid of it... There are enough effective compounds out there to ban a few from your arsenal.
