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All jokes aside tho

The 101 sticky was very helpful as I basically had no idea what anything was before entering this site, and going with the rules posted in it.

Im; 23, 5'10, 160lbs, bout 14% bf judging from pics online (I can see top two heads of my abs at mo, but not the rest) been training for 4 years, gain during autmn and winter and cut through spring for the summer. Never done any AAS' before in my life, Im on about 3800 calories a day (P:245g/C:475g/F:105g) and workout 3 times a week in gym and once a week training boxing.

Being honest, that 4 years has a 5 month gap in the middle for an injury, but I still ate like a madman and did bodyweight training during that even if I didnt hit the gym. The reason Im thinking of taking the plunge is because whilst I gained 20 lbs of muscle over the 1st two years of training, which I was pleased with having a the metoblism button set on turbo, Ive gained literally nothing over the past two years. Ive seen minimal strenght improvements over the gaining months but the minute I start cutting I lose any strenght Ive gainined. Ive tried increasing my calories to 4500 a day last winter but I ended up just getting fat and after 2 months decided it wasnt worth the effort if I wasnt seeing any gains so went back down to 3500. Ive been gaining for about 7 weeks now and am still seeing no gains in the strenght department, Ive even noticed that this gaining period Ive been losing weight rather easily, I can go to bed weighing a pudgy 172 and wake up the next morning a fairly lean 156.

So, suggestions?

Thanks in advance for any advice
 
Looking at your stats I would say you are not ready to juice. Your diet doesn't look that good for building muscles. I would suggest : 300 carbs, 400 protein, and 60 fats. This is a 35/45/15 macro ratio which is very well suited for gaining muscle. You should also take a look at your training and do a 4 day split hitting each part 1 time a week. Make sure you train intensely. You can make lots of natural gains. Steroids wont do much if your diet and training arent at 100%. If you need a good workout split just ask.
 
Well over the past 2 years Ive gone through 3,4,5 and 6 day training weeks so Ive ot a fair idea of how to run one. I noramlly go big/small, push./pull if I can help it, ie, chest/bicepts (big/small, push/pull).

Id be more interested in a quick meal plan on how to get 400 grams of protein in in 1 day!!! Im not too concerned with physique as long as I know theres gains coming on, my ultimate goal is to be around 190 lbs and about 12% for boxing, Im just looking for a way to get some gains on quick because I think Ive been fairley pateint over past two years. At certain points I have thought, "Fuck it, just cut it and deal with being skinny"

Thanks
 
Sapmle for 400 grams protein per day:

4 oz of meat/fish/chicken has about 22 grams of protein.

Breakfast
1 cup egg whites = 28 grams protein
2 scoops whey = 48 grams protein

snack 1
4oz meat/fish/chicken = 22 grams protein

lunch
12 oz meat/fish/chicken = 66 grams protein

snack 2
4oz meat/fish/chicken = 22 grams protein

preworkout
12 oz meat/fish/chicken = 66 grams protein

post workout
2 scoops whey = 48 grams protein

Dinner
12 oz meat/fish/chicken = 66 grams protein

before bed
8 oz cottage cheese = 30 grams protein

Total 396 grams

im currently using the same meal split to get 690 grams protein its not that hard.
fish seems to be the least filling and easier to eat than chicken beef.

remember to work your way up to this amount over a couple of weeks and drink 2+ gallons of water.
Also make sure all of your carbs are complex carbs except for post workout
 
Where's the carbs? This looks like a pre contest type diet.
2g/lb of protein is more than enough.


Sapmle for 400 grams protein per day:

4 oz of meat/fish/chicken has about 22 grams of protein.

Breakfast
1 cup egg whites = 28 grams protein
2 scoops whey = 48 grams protein

snack 1
4oz meat/fish/chicken = 22 grams protein

lunch
12 oz meat/fish/chicken = 66 grams protein

snack 2
4oz meat/fish/chicken = 22 grams protein

preworkout
12 oz meat/fish/chicken = 66 grams protein

post workout
2 scoops whey = 48 grams protein

Dinner
12 oz meat/fish/chicken = 66 grams protein

before bed
8 oz cottage cheese = 30 grams protein

Total 396 grams

im currently using the same meal split to get 690 grams protein its not that hard.
fish seems to be the least filling and easier to eat than chicken beef.

remember to work your way up to this amount over a couple of weeks and drink 2+ gallons of water.
Also make sure all of your carbs are complex carbs except for post workout
 
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