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something else I'd like to discuss is I read sometime ago about how chronic migraine sufferers have more exciting/dramatic orgasms
has to do with the dopamine overloads in their brains
I rarely even have a headache
shit
has to do with the dopamine overloads in their brains
I rarely even have a headache
shit
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http://www.sexualenhancement.org/lisuride1.htm
(Lisuride series, part 1)
Version 2.1, March 2002 (rev.)
Lisuride (brand name Dopergine and others) is a Parkinson's medication, which, like all Parkinson's medications enhances the presence and/or activity of the neurotransmitter dopamine in the human brain. In many instances, enhanced dopamine functionality has been associated with increased sexual appetite and better sexual performance.
I decided to try lisuride after a friend and reader reported a positive experience with lisuride. The reader described his experience as follows:
"Lisuride: I tried this after reading about it in the book Sexual Pharmacology. It is available in Europe. A friend got some from France. It is an ergotic dopaminergic drug, mainly used for Parkinson's disease. The packet insert lists impuissance (impotence) as another indication. It has a real effect. It increases desire and sensitivity. It also causes nausea."
So far the reader's experience.
I myself got some lisuride (Dopergine) in Thailand where most prescription medications are sold over the counter. I have also tried a number of dopamine medications for their alleged capability to enhance sexuality. I have had good effects with some of them, though during my early experiments with dopamine agonists, I made clear mistakes in the way I ingested them. As a result, nausea has always been a problem. (Part 3 of this series of articles on lisuride deals with the correct way to ingest dopamine agonists for sexual enhancement.)
Parkinson's medications can be quite powerful in unpleasant effects if taken by people who are not Parkinson's patients. So I started my lisuride experiment with just a quarter of a tablet, not combining it with anything else.
It didn't have much of a sexual effect, but I experienced a fit of anger that lasted for hours and wasn't very pleasant for my social environment. I don't know, though, to what extent to blame the lisuride. Anger hasn't been much of a problem in further lisuride experiments. But there were others.
In my next experiment I tried half a tablet of lisuride, combined with nothing else, and I felt absolutely lousy. I had to lie down right from the moment I felt the lisuride kicking in, and I had to stay in bed for the whole day. Thank God it was Sunday and I didn't have any urgent work to do.
I didn't develop any fever, or other measurable symptoms such as increased heart rate. I just felt lousy, as if I wanted to vomit, tough I didn't reach that point.
I know this kind of nausea from a few years ago. From the mid-twenties on, for several years, I terribly suffered from migraines. It would be an understatement to call them migraine headaches, as these attacks really effected the whole body, including being nauseated to the point of vomiting.
I want to relate more on these migraine states, because of their similarity to what I experienced under lisuride.
While those migraine attacks were unpleasant to the extreme, I usually could escape the discomfort by lying down to sleep. This option obviously was available only when I didn't have to work. It was, therefore, good timing if I had my migraine attacks on Sundays, and indeed, for months on end, I suffered from migraine every Sunday, so I just spent these days in bed, sleeping along. In order to clarify that my headaches really were migraines, I shall describe them briefly. I usually experienced migraine attacks when I was very relaxed (on those free Sundays I learned to hate). On high-stress days, I seldom experienced migraine attacks.
Usually, when it occurred to me, that, shit, I was very relaxed, the first measurable symptom wasn't far away. I would lose vision. I would lose vision gradually over some ten to fifteen minutes. It would start with my vision becoming glassy on the edges (distorted as if one looked at the world through the bottom of a cheap drinking glass. Over the period of about five minutes, this glassiness would move to the center of vision. The vision would then change to a full blackout. Very soon thereafter, I would regain vision from the edge. This resulted in funnily distorted perceptions. I could, for example, sit directly opposite a person and see everything surrounding us at the edges, but I wouldn't see the person directly in front of me.
I possess a good portion of distrust for the medical establishment, and I would say, luckily so. Otherwise I just could have gotten into the hands of some mad psychiatrist who would have diagnosed my vision distortions as hallucinations based on some specific sub-type of schizophrenia, and I would have passed my days as a heavily sedated patient in a psychiatric institution.
Obviously, I was worried about my migraines particularly in the months after they first occurred. I wondered whether I had a strange brain disease or maybe just an ordinary head tumor, which would rob this young promising journalist of his future, and his beautiful girlfriend of the best love maker she ever would have.
Am I really so convinced of my sexual prowess at that time? Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe it's just for the impact I wish this essay will have on the reader. Maybe I just want to recommend to young pretty women that they find themselves a migraine sufferer if they want to experience great sex. Anyway, I'm wholeheartedly convinced that there exists a strong relationship between dopamine and migraine headaches. I would even go as far as postulating the hypothesis that migraines are a direct result of hyper-dopaminergic events in the brain, and that, while migraine attacks surely are unpleasant, migraine sufferers are also likely to get the best out of their sex lives.
I base this assessment on ample personal experience with migraines, as well as in the horizontal position. At the time I was super sick with migraines, I was also super healthy, sex-wise. This was a time when I could come up with a world-class erection out of the blue by just focusing my though on a girl I saw a little while ago. There was a time when I could maintain a world-class erection for half an hour or an hour just by daydreaming about some past or imagined sexual encounters. It was a time when I could willfully produce an ejaculation by just applying a strong grip to that organ that rightfully is called vital.
I am convinced that a strong relationship exists between migraines and dopamine activity, and over the years I have come across a good number of indications that this is the case, without first actually recognizing the proof. Please see part 2 of this series for details.
(Lisuride series, part 1)
Version 2.1, March 2002 (rev.)
Lisuride (brand name Dopergine and others) is a Parkinson's medication, which, like all Parkinson's medications enhances the presence and/or activity of the neurotransmitter dopamine in the human brain. In many instances, enhanced dopamine functionality has been associated with increased sexual appetite and better sexual performance.
I decided to try lisuride after a friend and reader reported a positive experience with lisuride. The reader described his experience as follows:
"Lisuride: I tried this after reading about it in the book Sexual Pharmacology. It is available in Europe. A friend got some from France. It is an ergotic dopaminergic drug, mainly used for Parkinson's disease. The packet insert lists impuissance (impotence) as another indication. It has a real effect. It increases desire and sensitivity. It also causes nausea."
So far the reader's experience.
I myself got some lisuride (Dopergine) in Thailand where most prescription medications are sold over the counter. I have also tried a number of dopamine medications for their alleged capability to enhance sexuality. I have had good effects with some of them, though during my early experiments with dopamine agonists, I made clear mistakes in the way I ingested them. As a result, nausea has always been a problem. (Part 3 of this series of articles on lisuride deals with the correct way to ingest dopamine agonists for sexual enhancement.)
Parkinson's medications can be quite powerful in unpleasant effects if taken by people who are not Parkinson's patients. So I started my lisuride experiment with just a quarter of a tablet, not combining it with anything else.
It didn't have much of a sexual effect, but I experienced a fit of anger that lasted for hours and wasn't very pleasant for my social environment. I don't know, though, to what extent to blame the lisuride. Anger hasn't been much of a problem in further lisuride experiments. But there were others.
In my next experiment I tried half a tablet of lisuride, combined with nothing else, and I felt absolutely lousy. I had to lie down right from the moment I felt the lisuride kicking in, and I had to stay in bed for the whole day. Thank God it was Sunday and I didn't have any urgent work to do.
I didn't develop any fever, or other measurable symptoms such as increased heart rate. I just felt lousy, as if I wanted to vomit, tough I didn't reach that point.
I know this kind of nausea from a few years ago. From the mid-twenties on, for several years, I terribly suffered from migraines. It would be an understatement to call them migraine headaches, as these attacks really effected the whole body, including being nauseated to the point of vomiting.
I want to relate more on these migraine states, because of their similarity to what I experienced under lisuride.
While those migraine attacks were unpleasant to the extreme, I usually could escape the discomfort by lying down to sleep. This option obviously was available only when I didn't have to work. It was, therefore, good timing if I had my migraine attacks on Sundays, and indeed, for months on end, I suffered from migraine every Sunday, so I just spent these days in bed, sleeping along. In order to clarify that my headaches really were migraines, I shall describe them briefly. I usually experienced migraine attacks when I was very relaxed (on those free Sundays I learned to hate). On high-stress days, I seldom experienced migraine attacks.
Usually, when it occurred to me, that, shit, I was very relaxed, the first measurable symptom wasn't far away. I would lose vision. I would lose vision gradually over some ten to fifteen minutes. It would start with my vision becoming glassy on the edges (distorted as if one looked at the world through the bottom of a cheap drinking glass. Over the period of about five minutes, this glassiness would move to the center of vision. The vision would then change to a full blackout. Very soon thereafter, I would regain vision from the edge. This resulted in funnily distorted perceptions. I could, for example, sit directly opposite a person and see everything surrounding us at the edges, but I wouldn't see the person directly in front of me.
I possess a good portion of distrust for the medical establishment, and I would say, luckily so. Otherwise I just could have gotten into the hands of some mad psychiatrist who would have diagnosed my vision distortions as hallucinations based on some specific sub-type of schizophrenia, and I would have passed my days as a heavily sedated patient in a psychiatric institution.
Obviously, I was worried about my migraines particularly in the months after they first occurred. I wondered whether I had a strange brain disease or maybe just an ordinary head tumor, which would rob this young promising journalist of his future, and his beautiful girlfriend of the best love maker she ever would have.
Am I really so convinced of my sexual prowess at that time? Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe it's just for the impact I wish this essay will have on the reader. Maybe I just want to recommend to young pretty women that they find themselves a migraine sufferer if they want to experience great sex. Anyway, I'm wholeheartedly convinced that there exists a strong relationship between dopamine and migraine headaches. I would even go as far as postulating the hypothesis that migraines are a direct result of hyper-dopaminergic events in the brain, and that, while migraine attacks surely are unpleasant, migraine sufferers are also likely to get the best out of their sex lives.
I base this assessment on ample personal experience with migraines, as well as in the horizontal position. At the time I was super sick with migraines, I was also super healthy, sex-wise. This was a time when I could come up with a world-class erection out of the blue by just focusing my though on a girl I saw a little while ago. There was a time when I could maintain a world-class erection for half an hour or an hour just by daydreaming about some past or imagined sexual encounters. It was a time when I could willfully produce an ejaculation by just applying a strong grip to that organ that rightfully is called vital.
I am convinced that a strong relationship exists between migraines and dopamine activity, and over the years I have come across a good number of indications that this is the case, without first actually recognizing the proof. Please see part 2 of this series for details.
S
Spartacus
Guest
Can I, please, have my migraines back
by serge kreutz
http://www.sexualenhancement.org/lisuride2.htm
(Lisuride series, part 2)
Version 2.0, February 2002
It has been suspected for some time that particular foods can trigger migraine attacks... foods such as cheese, red wine, and chocolate. By the time I consulted those headache specialists at the Klinikum Grosshadern in Munich (end of the seventies) I have been told that I could try to avoid migraine headaches by not eating precisely these foods: cheese and chocolate.
I was not pleased with the advice that I should forego cheese in particular. During the years in Munich, when I worked for a TV station, I was an ardent consumer of very Bavarian, strong-smelling, hearty cheeses. Actually they were the staple of my diet with some 300 to 400 grams a day.
The idea that my cheese consumption would trigger my migraine attacks seemed, at that time, so strange to me that I never took it seriously, even though I had clear indications to support the idea, as I know from hindsight.
Rather, for as long as I lived in Munich, I blamed the weather there for my headaches, which is common practice in Munich. I then thought this to be obvious because I suffered from migraines when in Munich but did not during my travels to Southeast Asia, which I first undertook every few months, and then every few weeks.
Of course, in Southeast Asia, the weather is different from Southern Bavaria. But apart from that, the food that has been available to me in Southeast Asia at that time was also very different. No cheese. The migraines were a major reason why at the beginning of the eighties, I left Munich to settle in Southeast Asia.
As far as income was concerned, it first didn't work out so well in Southeast Asia. I may even say that I had a hard time for a few years. But I sure, too, didn't have a headache problem. The migraine attacks ceased completely.
Until a few years later, when I was well established and again could indulge in cheese, even though Gorgonzola, Camembert, and Roquefort could only be bought at five-star hotels and at prices matching the prestige of the shopping environment.
My migraine attacks also returned in full force. Even though it is quite obvious to me now that they were caused by those generous servings of cheese, I was blind for that fact at the time the attacks reoccurred. This time around, I didn't blame them on the weather, though. The weather in Manila is too different from Munich for that. Rather, I expected as culprit the stress of professional success. My streak of good luck in business (the publishing trade) didn't last long and I soon had to move to another country and start all over again. Gone were the professional luck, the stress of being successful, the migraines, and the cheese platters.
That's how I saw it then. Today I know that I should put it this way: Gone were the success, and the means to buy expensive selections of cheese, and, because of the modified diet, the migraine headaches.
It took another cycle of success, cheese, and migraine attacks until I finally realized their cause.
So, why does cheese cause migraine headaches? What ingredient is at fault?
I am scientifically minded but not a practicing scientific researcher. But I think I do have a clue as far as migraine is concerned. And the self-experiments with lisuride have something to do with it. During the second Asian cycle of success, cheese, and migraine (beginning of the nineties), I came across a newspaper item in which it was reported that scientists now definitely linked cheese and migraine. I gave up cheese completely for a few years (only), and I don't remember a single migraine attack after I did. But I don't want to give the credits entirely to the absence of cheese. I do remember that headache specialist at the Klinikum Grosshadern in Munich who, to console me, predicted that my migraine attacks would cease all by themselves after some twenty years.
That seemed an awfully long way off for a young man who felt so brain-damaged that he would wonder whether he would make it for another two, not another twenty years.
Now those twenty years have passed, and I want my migraine attacks back. Surprised? I bet you are. Actually, it's not the migraine attacks I want back, but the general state of health, or the pathological condition that accompanies them.
Headache researchers speak of a specific "migraine personality". I am a migraine personality, though one who has passed the migraine phase of his life.
However, I can relive migraine symptoms, the nausea as well as others, when ingesting lisuride. Lisuride is a Parkinson's medication. All Parkinson's medications work by enhancing dopamine synthesis, the inhibition of dopamine re-uptake (the storage of dopamine for eventual later use), or by supporting dopamine functionality through other means.
A good number of Parkinson's medications are MAO inhibitors. MAO stands for, no, in this case not the Cultural Revolution but "monoamine oxidase". Oxidase is an enzyme in the human body (-ase is the common ending of the scientific names of enzymes). Dopamine (and noradrenalin, as well as some other neurotransmitters) are monoamines by chemical structure.
However, monoamines do not only occur as neurotransmitters with a delicate influence on human well-being. Monoamines are also a common part of many foods. The most important monoamine in food is tyramine, and, you guessed it, foods particularly high in tyramine include, in first place, cheese... aged cheese in particular.
Classic MAO inhibitors are a dangerous medication. They don't only inhibit the MAO that breaks down the neurotransmitter dopamine, the wished-for effect in the treatment of Parkinson's. They also inhibit the MAO in the digestive tract where it is responsible for foods such as cheese. And that can be very dangerous because those tyramines of which there are plenty in cheese then make it into the neuronal control system where they mimic noradrenalin and cause increased blood pressure and heart rate, possibly leading to death. Physicians themselves call the condition not by a strange-sounding Latin euphemism but have named it in plain English as the "cheese effect".
Wow, cheese as a deadly poison.
Dopamine medications, including MAO inhibitors, are of interest not only in the treatment of Parkinson's disease. I have mentioned previously that the one Parkinson's medication that is the actual topic of this series of articles, lisuride, is, in some countries, an accepted drug for the treatment of impotence in men.
It took me a long time to realize the connection between cheese and migraine. But I now see a connection not only between the two, but, in a wider scope, between cheese, migraine, tyramines, dopamine, and being hyper-sexed.
Migraines are a discomfort, but being hyper-sexed is a wonderful condition. Previously, I thought it funny that while being bed-bound with migraine, and nauseated to a level where walking ten meters could make me vomit, I would still make regular use of my rights as a husband. And the same happens when I am nauseated and bed-bound by lisuride.
I mentioned above that I want my migraines back. No, not my migraines, but a health condition which is characterized by a susceptibility to migraines.
I want to be constantly activated as when I was your typical migraine sufferer. I want to be as driven by sexual desire as during a younger age. And I want to get the same pleasure out of my sexual encounters. In my best time, I could have wonderful climaxes just from a bit of embracing and a bit of kissing. It never occurred to me, that other people, and I myself at a later stage in life, would experience sexual encounters during which they, and I, just couldn't get it going. I used to be able to turn myself on by just willfully focusing my thought on a specific girl, or a specific scene that I would imagine.
I tried a lot. I even tried cheese. I discovered that I now have a perfect tolerance for cheese. I don't get migraine headaches from cheese. Any amount. And cheese doesn't work as aphrodisiac. But lisuride does. Provided I take it in the correct way. Site subscribers can read in part 3 of this series how it is done.
by serge kreutz
http://www.sexualenhancement.org/lisuride2.htm
(Lisuride series, part 2)
Version 2.0, February 2002
It has been suspected for some time that particular foods can trigger migraine attacks... foods such as cheese, red wine, and chocolate. By the time I consulted those headache specialists at the Klinikum Grosshadern in Munich (end of the seventies) I have been told that I could try to avoid migraine headaches by not eating precisely these foods: cheese and chocolate.
I was not pleased with the advice that I should forego cheese in particular. During the years in Munich, when I worked for a TV station, I was an ardent consumer of very Bavarian, strong-smelling, hearty cheeses. Actually they were the staple of my diet with some 300 to 400 grams a day.
The idea that my cheese consumption would trigger my migraine attacks seemed, at that time, so strange to me that I never took it seriously, even though I had clear indications to support the idea, as I know from hindsight.
Rather, for as long as I lived in Munich, I blamed the weather there for my headaches, which is common practice in Munich. I then thought this to be obvious because I suffered from migraines when in Munich but did not during my travels to Southeast Asia, which I first undertook every few months, and then every few weeks.
Of course, in Southeast Asia, the weather is different from Southern Bavaria. But apart from that, the food that has been available to me in Southeast Asia at that time was also very different. No cheese. The migraines were a major reason why at the beginning of the eighties, I left Munich to settle in Southeast Asia.
As far as income was concerned, it first didn't work out so well in Southeast Asia. I may even say that I had a hard time for a few years. But I sure, too, didn't have a headache problem. The migraine attacks ceased completely.
Until a few years later, when I was well established and again could indulge in cheese, even though Gorgonzola, Camembert, and Roquefort could only be bought at five-star hotels and at prices matching the prestige of the shopping environment.
My migraine attacks also returned in full force. Even though it is quite obvious to me now that they were caused by those generous servings of cheese, I was blind for that fact at the time the attacks reoccurred. This time around, I didn't blame them on the weather, though. The weather in Manila is too different from Munich for that. Rather, I expected as culprit the stress of professional success. My streak of good luck in business (the publishing trade) didn't last long and I soon had to move to another country and start all over again. Gone were the professional luck, the stress of being successful, the migraines, and the cheese platters.
That's how I saw it then. Today I know that I should put it this way: Gone were the success, and the means to buy expensive selections of cheese, and, because of the modified diet, the migraine headaches.
It took another cycle of success, cheese, and migraine attacks until I finally realized their cause.
So, why does cheese cause migraine headaches? What ingredient is at fault?
I am scientifically minded but not a practicing scientific researcher. But I think I do have a clue as far as migraine is concerned. And the self-experiments with lisuride have something to do with it. During the second Asian cycle of success, cheese, and migraine (beginning of the nineties), I came across a newspaper item in which it was reported that scientists now definitely linked cheese and migraine. I gave up cheese completely for a few years (only), and I don't remember a single migraine attack after I did. But I don't want to give the credits entirely to the absence of cheese. I do remember that headache specialist at the Klinikum Grosshadern in Munich who, to console me, predicted that my migraine attacks would cease all by themselves after some twenty years.
That seemed an awfully long way off for a young man who felt so brain-damaged that he would wonder whether he would make it for another two, not another twenty years.
Now those twenty years have passed, and I want my migraine attacks back. Surprised? I bet you are. Actually, it's not the migraine attacks I want back, but the general state of health, or the pathological condition that accompanies them.
Headache researchers speak of a specific "migraine personality". I am a migraine personality, though one who has passed the migraine phase of his life.
However, I can relive migraine symptoms, the nausea as well as others, when ingesting lisuride. Lisuride is a Parkinson's medication. All Parkinson's medications work by enhancing dopamine synthesis, the inhibition of dopamine re-uptake (the storage of dopamine for eventual later use), or by supporting dopamine functionality through other means.
A good number of Parkinson's medications are MAO inhibitors. MAO stands for, no, in this case not the Cultural Revolution but "monoamine oxidase". Oxidase is an enzyme in the human body (-ase is the common ending of the scientific names of enzymes). Dopamine (and noradrenalin, as well as some other neurotransmitters) are monoamines by chemical structure.
However, monoamines do not only occur as neurotransmitters with a delicate influence on human well-being. Monoamines are also a common part of many foods. The most important monoamine in food is tyramine, and, you guessed it, foods particularly high in tyramine include, in first place, cheese... aged cheese in particular.
Classic MAO inhibitors are a dangerous medication. They don't only inhibit the MAO that breaks down the neurotransmitter dopamine, the wished-for effect in the treatment of Parkinson's. They also inhibit the MAO in the digestive tract where it is responsible for foods such as cheese. And that can be very dangerous because those tyramines of which there are plenty in cheese then make it into the neuronal control system where they mimic noradrenalin and cause increased blood pressure and heart rate, possibly leading to death. Physicians themselves call the condition not by a strange-sounding Latin euphemism but have named it in plain English as the "cheese effect".
Wow, cheese as a deadly poison.
Dopamine medications, including MAO inhibitors, are of interest not only in the treatment of Parkinson's disease. I have mentioned previously that the one Parkinson's medication that is the actual topic of this series of articles, lisuride, is, in some countries, an accepted drug for the treatment of impotence in men.
It took me a long time to realize the connection between cheese and migraine. But I now see a connection not only between the two, but, in a wider scope, between cheese, migraine, tyramines, dopamine, and being hyper-sexed.
Migraines are a discomfort, but being hyper-sexed is a wonderful condition. Previously, I thought it funny that while being bed-bound with migraine, and nauseated to a level where walking ten meters could make me vomit, I would still make regular use of my rights as a husband. And the same happens when I am nauseated and bed-bound by lisuride.
I mentioned above that I want my migraines back. No, not my migraines, but a health condition which is characterized by a susceptibility to migraines.
I want to be constantly activated as when I was your typical migraine sufferer. I want to be as driven by sexual desire as during a younger age. And I want to get the same pleasure out of my sexual encounters. In my best time, I could have wonderful climaxes just from a bit of embracing and a bit of kissing. It never occurred to me, that other people, and I myself at a later stage in life, would experience sexual encounters during which they, and I, just couldn't get it going. I used to be able to turn myself on by just willfully focusing my thought on a specific girl, or a specific scene that I would imagine.
I tried a lot. I even tried cheese. I discovered that I now have a perfect tolerance for cheese. I don't get migraine headaches from cheese. Any amount. And cheese doesn't work as aphrodisiac. But lisuride does. Provided I take it in the correct way. Site subscribers can read in part 3 of this series how it is done.
S
Spartacus
Guest
serge the author of the above article's is the muthafuckin' man
I've been reading his shit since circa 2000
I've been reading his shit since circa 2000
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Spartacus
Guest
rock-nuts?
something we don't know goin' on?
something we don't know goin' on?
