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I'm Leaking Juice!!

speller said:
. I like shooting in the delts – feels the best, plus im a pretty big guy (5’11” 226 at 9%) with 0 flexibility, so I cant even reach around to do an ass shot. pin

Have you tried sitting in a kitchen chair thats open in the back?
It realy is'nt that far of a reach to hit the upper outer quarter of your glute
 
take your time

observing common protocols always minimizes leakage, but in particular, these points were what i've noticed to be the most relevant:

  1. use a longer needle - using a needle of at least 1.25 inches is best as the deeper you deposit the liquid, the better because it gets progressively harder for it to leak for obvious reasons.
  2. use a thinner needle - 25-27 G. needles are best. first, the smaller size makes a smaller hole, which closes up better. second, the smaller needle forces you to go slower
  3. stretch the skin where you inject - this helps because when you remove the needle, it helps seal up the area.... most american nurses use this when injecting your butt...
  4. take your time - the longer you take to inject, the better (within reason). to inject a cc of medium-viscosity liquid, taking from 45-60 seconds is best (even more viscous liquids, like 400mg nandrolones take even longer) , multiply this by the CCs you intend to inject.... this allows the muscle tissue to adjust to the pressure of the liquid, and greatly reduces the chances of abcesses from the pressure. yes, it sucks to sit there for minutes and minutes with a needle in your ass or whereever it is, but then if you can't live with the procedure (and the benefits of doing it right), then you should re-think your goals....or use oral drugs

  5. inject after a warm shower - it helps loosen the muscle tissue, which minimizes pressure and abcesses from the pressure
  6. massage the area - same as above
  7. don't stress the muscle - if you're injecting a thigh, don't do it while standing. it hurts more, and increases the chances of an abcess, and also, it tends to feel like the stuff is still there even days later....

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    injecting a small amount of air (about .2cc) can sometimes help... but injecting air requires much more care,simply because unlike a typical (ztrack) injection, you absolutely must aspirate to check for blood (i know plenty of peple who do not aspirate when they inject)..... if you are going to inject with air, YOU MUST ASPIRATE, FAILURE TO DO SO COULD RESULT IN CARDIAC ARREST.....
    although the risk is small considering the tiny air bubble, in this day and age, you never know how some people might react to such a risk.... i certainly wouldn't want to find out that im one of the few who could die from a .2cc injection of air into my bloodstream....
 
Re: take your time

kidvilla said:
observing common protocols always minimizes leakage, but in particular, these points were what i've noticed to be the most relevant:

  1. use a longer needle - using a needle of at least 1.25 inches is best as the deeper you deposit the liquid, the better because it gets progressively harder for it to leak for obvious reasons.
  2. use a thinner needle - 25-27 G. needles are best. first, the smaller size makes a smaller hole, which closes up better. second, the smaller needle forces you to go slower
  3. stretch the skin where you inject - this helps because when you remove the needle, it helps seal up the area.... most american nurses use this when injecting your butt...
  4. take your time - the longer you take to inject, the better (within reason). to inject a cc of medium-viscosity liquid, taking from 45-60 seconds is best (even more viscous liquids, like 400mg nandrolones take even longer) , multiply this by the CCs you intend to inject.... this allows the muscle tissue to adjust to the pressure of the liquid, and greatly reduces the chances of abcesses from the pressure. yes, it sucks to sit there for minutes and minutes with a needle in your ass or whereever it is, but then if you can't live with the procedure (and the benefits of doing it right), then you should re-think your goals....or use oral drugs

  5. inject after a warm shower - it helps loosen the muscle tissue, which minimizes pressure and abcesses from the pressure
  6. massage the area - same as above
  7. don't stress the muscle - if you're injecting a thigh, don't do it while standing. it hurts more, and increases the chances of an abcess, and also, it tends to feel like the stuff is still there even days later....

    [/list=1]

    injecting a small amount of air (about .2cc) can sometimes help... but injecting air requires much more care,simply because unlike a typical (ztrack) injection, you absolutely must aspirate to check for blood (i know plenty of peple who do not aspirate when they inject)..... if you are going to inject with air, YOU MUST ASPIRATE, FAILURE TO DO SO COULD RESULT IN CARDIAC ARREST.....
    although the risk is small considering the tiny air bubble, in this day and age, you never know how some people might react to such a risk.... i certainly wouldn't want to find out that im one of the few who could die from a .2cc injection of air into my bloodstream....


  1. some excellent suggestions, this was what i was looking for, thank you. if i could give karma , it would be to you!
 
Re: take your time

kidvilla said:
observing common protocols always minimizes leakage, but in particular, these points were what i've noticed to be the most relevant:

  1. use a longer needle - using a needle of at least 1.25 inches is best as the deeper you deposit the liquid, the better because it gets progressively harder for it to leak for obvious reasons.
  2. use a thinner needle - 25-27 G. needles are best. first, the smaller size makes a smaller hole, which closes up better. second, the smaller needle forces you to go slower
  3. stretch the skin where you inject - this helps because when you remove the needle, it helps seal up the area.... most american nurses use this when injecting your butt...
  4. take your time - the longer you take to inject, the better (within reason). to inject a cc of medium-viscosity liquid, taking from 45-60 seconds is best (even more viscous liquids, like 400mg nandrolones take even longer) , multiply this by the CCs you intend to inject.... this allows the muscle tissue to adjust to the pressure of the liquid, and greatly reduces the chances of abcesses from the pressure. yes, it sucks to sit there for minutes and minutes with a needle in your ass or whereever it is, but then if you can't live with the procedure (and the benefits of doing it right), then you should re-think your goals....or use oral drugs

  5. inject after a warm shower - it helps loosen the muscle tissue, which minimizes pressure and abcesses from the pressure
  6. massage the area - same as above
  7. don't stress the muscle - if you're injecting a thigh, don't do it while standing. it hurts more, and increases the chances of an abcess, and also, it tends to feel like the stuff is still there even days later....

    [/list=1]

    injecting a small amount of air (about .2cc) can sometimes help... but injecting air requires much more care,simply because unlike a typical (ztrack) injection, you absolutely must aspirate to check for blood (i know plenty of peple who do not aspirate when they inject)..... if you are going to inject with air, YOU MUST ASPIRATE, FAILURE TO DO SO COULD RESULT IN CARDIAC ARREST.....
    although the risk is small considering the tiny air bubble, in this day and age, you never know how some people might react to such a risk.... i certainly wouldn't want to find out that im one of the few who could die from a .2cc injection of air into my bloodstream....


  1. some excellent suggestions, this was what i was looking for, thank you. if i could give karma , it would be to you!

    one question though, do you think you can squeeze fin out of a 25 27 gauge needle? its tough enough out of a 22 which im currently using
 
75mg/ml fina that is properly filtered (in other words, no gunk binders) will definitely go through 25 and 27 and even 29 G needles, but i would not recommend using 29.... it definitely requires patience and a strong hand (you are working it out, right?) in order to push such a viscous fluid through it, but when you consider that both 300mg and 400mg nandrolones, which are almost as thick as molasses can go through these needles (with alot of suffering, but they do), sesame seed oil and similarly based substances are a bit of a challenge, but totally doable......

in other words, yes, you can use even a 29 G needle, but if you want to keep your sanity (and you feel your forearms are big and buff enough), stick with 25g needles
 
boil some water, put in mug, wait 5 min, put bottle of fina in for 5 min, take out, draw with 18g, inject with 25g..... works well for me
 
just push on the plunger a few seconds afterwards. I tend not to get leakage in my delts after that. But i only shot 2cc's there once
 
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