IGF-1 + Clen?

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I'm currently running IGF-1 LR3 at 40mcg/day (by itself), going into week 2 with 2 weeks to go and I was wondering if anyone has experience doing Clenbuterol along with it. The IGF-1 has made me lethargic as hell (sleeping for 12-14 hrs. per night) and I'd like to know if throwing a little Clenbuterol in the mix will keep me active as opposed to me having to force my ass to the gym, as well as increase some of the fat loss I've already noticed. Plus the increased metabolism may be good for generating new muscle cells. So far I haven't seen a reason not to include Clenbuterol, but I'd like to hear other opinions.

 

[GUARDIAN]

I don't know anything about IGF-1, mostly cuz I havent cared enough about it to research it. But as far as the clen goes I would never run without at least a small dose of test. It will definitely increase the fat loss as long as your diet is proper and certainly has some anabolic properties. It wont generate new muscle cells like you think.

Clen has never made me more "active" and I certainly never have had to force myself to go to the gym. It is usually the other way around.

I hope this helps.

 

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I don't know anything about IGF-1, mostly cuz I havent cared enough about it to research it. But as far as the Clenbuterol goes I would never run without at least a small dose of test. It will definitely increase the fat loss as long as your diet is proper and certainly has some anabolic properties. It wont generate new muscle cells like you think.

Clen has never made me more "active" and I certainly never have had to force myself to go to the gym. It is usually the other way around.

I hope this helps.

Actually you're right, last time I used clen I felt kind of run down more than anything. Idk where I got the idea that it'd give me more energy. I'd probably be better off with an E/C/A product for that purpose.

Why wouldn't you use clen without test? Lots of people run it post cycle.

The "generate new muscle cells" thing is what IGF-1 is all about. It's supposed to cause hyperplasia.

 

[ALIN]

I'm currently running IGF-1 LR3 at 40mcg/day (by itself), going into week 2 with 2 weeks to go and I was wondering if anyone has experience doing Clenbuterol along with it. The IGF-1 has made me lethargic as hell (sleeping for 12-14 hrs. per night) and I'd like to know if throwing a little Clenbuterol in the mix will keep me active as opposed to me having to force my ass to the gym, as well as increase some of the fat loss I've already noticed. Plus the increased metabolism may be good for generating new muscle cells. So far I haven't seen a reason not to include Clenbuterol, but I'd like to hear other opinions.

You could try it for a few days and see. IGF1 made me sleep like a baby,,too much.

 

[GUARDIAN]

Actually you're right, last time I used Clenbuterol I felt kind of run down more than anything. Idk where I got the idea that it'd give me more energy. I'd probably be better off with an E/C/A product for that purpose.

Why wouldn't you use Clenbuterol without test? Lots of people run it post cycle.

The "generate new muscle cells" thing is what IGF-1 is all about. It's supposed to cause hyperplasia.

Gotcha. I thought you were trying to say the clen would add new muscle cells. So I guess the IGF is supposed to give results like HGH.

I think clen works a little too well. Part of that has to do with its long half life. I find that clen can start becoming catabolic without aas. But with aas it is a great addition.

Now clen raises your body temperature a bit, your metabolic rate, and decreases your appetite. Clen can also cause a downregulation in testicularandrogen receptors. There is a fine line with the dose you choose and crossing the line between anabolic and catabolic. If you have significant muscle mass I would take every precaution to preserve it and use clen only while on cycle.

 

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Gotcha. I thought you were trying to say the Clenbuterol would add new muscle cells. So I guess the IGF is supposed to give results like human growth hormone - somatropin - .

I think Clenbuterol works a little too well. Part of that has to do with its long half life. I find that Clenbuterol can start becoming catabolic without anabolic androgenic steroids. But with anabolic androgenic steroids it is a great addition.

Now Clenbuterol raises your body temperature a bit, your metabolic rate, and decreases your appetite. Clen can also cause a downregulation in testicularandrogen receptors. There is a fine line with the dose you choose and crossing the line between anabolic and catabolic. If you have significant muscle mass I would take every precaution to preserve it and use Clenbuterol only while on cycle.

Yeah, from what I've read IGF-1 is the anabolic end product of HGH.

I agree when you say clen has the potential to be catabolic, which is why I was curious as to whether or not IGF-1 had the potential to offset such a reaction as test does.

 

[GUARDIAN]

Yeah, from what I've read IGF-1 is the anabolic end product of human growth hormone - somatropin - .

I agree when you say Clenbuterol has the potential to be catabolic, which is why I was curious as to whether or not IGF-1 had the potential to offset such a reaction as test does.[/QUOTE]

It is possible. Hopefully someone will chime in with a better answer that uses IGF. Good luck.

 

[Varga]

IGF is best utilized with test or while you are on cycle, Sweet Results!
Although ppl use it on PCT is somewhat of a waste from the point of muscle gain.

 

[extremefighter]

Clen will increase your own natural IGF-1 production and it's binding agents.

 

[jumpmaster82]

in theory it sounds like it would work. but igf is pretty touchy so i couldnt tell you for sure bro.