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if you MUST drink on a cutting diet...
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Stryc-9
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Hard alcohol...assuming you mix it with diet soda or tonic water...is the lesser of two evils in terms of caloric considerations.
If you're not dieting for a show, I don't suppose the occasional night of boozing is going to kill you. But do you really believe you can't have any fun without drinking?
If you're not dieting for a show, I don't suppose the occasional night of boozing is going to kill you. But do you really believe you can't have any fun without drinking?
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~SC~
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No one "MUST" drink on a cutting diet.
A cutting diet does not include alcohol. If you are drinking, you are not on a cutting diet.
Logistics!
~SC~
A cutting diet does not include alcohol. If you are drinking, you are not on a cutting diet.
Logistics!
~SC~
JJ from GoodTimes
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The only thing about hard liquor is that if you are cutting and taking supps then your kidneys are already working overtime, beer maybe easier on the body
The only thing about hard liquor is that if you are cutting and taking supps then your kidneys are already working overtime, beer maybe easier on the body
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young guns
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Well not necessarily, that all depends on how much beer is drank. You can easily match the amount of alcohol drank in the form of hard liquor by drinkin beer, if you drink fast enough.
kraze,
SC is right though, you never must drink. It's a choice you gotta make. Can you still get cut and do some drinking? Yes. Is it gonna take you longer to get cut? Likely. Do you stand the risk of losing muscle due to cutting for a longer period of time, or does the lengthy road at fat loss prevent some gains that may have been made? I'd have to say this is likely too.
That's not even getting into alcohol's effects on protein sythesis and metabolism.
But, if you decide that you "must" drink, the be smart. I'm sure if you search the net and find calorie contents of beers and liquors. If my knowledge serves me correctly, tequilla is the lowest calorie liquor. But then again, who drinks it straight. Throw in some OJ for some sunrises, or drink margaritas and you've got alot of calories. I'd have to say something mixed with tonic water or a diet pop (as Stryc-9 mentioned), would be your best bet. Like gin or vodka and tonic, or something. Or you could go with a low cal beer like Mich Light or Miller Light.
The most important things if you decide to drink. Obviously, don't overdo it. But make sure you are well hydrated before and after, and if possible, during your night of drinking. I wouldn't hurt to have some good food in your stomach before you go out. Just make sure you don't starve yourself since you're too busy drinkin. Alcohol messes up metabolism, so eating while drinking really isn't in your best interest. Also wouldn't hurt to have some B vitamins in you before you drink either. Alcohol does a nice job of depleting these. I don't know if I'd suggest a multi though. I read a study before relating beta-carotene (vitamin A) with increased liver toxicity while drinking, and multi's always have high levels of it. Not sure how true or credible the study is, but it's something to think about. This is all in an attempt to MINIMIZE the ill effects of alcohol, although you definitely can't eliminate them unless you don't drink.
I don't see anything wrong with occasional partying. I'm in college so I go out drinking now and then too. But if its a every Fri/Sat thing, its likely to hold back your progress.
JJ from GoodTimes said:
Well not necessarily, that all depends on how much beer is drank. You can easily match the amount of alcohol drank in the form of hard liquor by drinkin beer, if you drink fast enough.
kraze,
SC is right though, you never must drink. It's a choice you gotta make. Can you still get cut and do some drinking? Yes. Is it gonna take you longer to get cut? Likely. Do you stand the risk of losing muscle due to cutting for a longer period of time, or does the lengthy road at fat loss prevent some gains that may have been made? I'd have to say this is likely too.
That's not even getting into alcohol's effects on protein sythesis and metabolism.
But, if you decide that you "must" drink, the be smart. I'm sure if you search the net and find calorie contents of beers and liquors. If my knowledge serves me correctly, tequilla is the lowest calorie liquor. But then again, who drinks it straight. Throw in some OJ for some sunrises, or drink margaritas and you've got alot of calories. I'd have to say something mixed with tonic water or a diet pop (as Stryc-9 mentioned), would be your best bet. Like gin or vodka and tonic, or something. Or you could go with a low cal beer like Mich Light or Miller Light.
The most important things if you decide to drink. Obviously, don't overdo it. But make sure you are well hydrated before and after, and if possible, during your night of drinking. I wouldn't hurt to have some good food in your stomach before you go out. Just make sure you don't starve yourself since you're too busy drinkin. Alcohol messes up metabolism, so eating while drinking really isn't in your best interest. Also wouldn't hurt to have some B vitamins in you before you drink either. Alcohol does a nice job of depleting these. I don't know if I'd suggest a multi though. I read a study before relating beta-carotene (vitamin A) with increased liver toxicity while drinking, and multi's always have high levels of it. Not sure how true or credible the study is, but it's something to think about. This is all in an attempt to MINIMIZE the ill effects of alcohol, although you definitely can't eliminate them unless you don't drink.
I don't see anything wrong with occasional partying. I'm in college so I go out drinking now and then too. But if its a every Fri/Sat thing, its likely to hold back your progress.
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~SC~
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Very good advice young guns!
Tuna rolls? Sounds good Hansel!
~SC~
Tuna rolls? Sounds good Hansel!
~SC~
juve
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I don't see how drinking is a must. As you embark on a diet i would presume you have a goal in mind: that is to be healthy and fit - a lifestyle change. Drinking has no place in that lifestyle, especially on a weekly basis.
Sorry, can't contribute anything else to this thread.
Oh, ~SC ~and young guns beat me to it, i concur with every point!
Sorry, can't contribute anything else to this thread.
Oh, ~SC ~and young guns beat me to it, i concur with every point!
ffknight84
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Re: if you MUST drink on a cutting diet...?
um every weekend fri and sat, how much aer you drinking???
its counter productive, because alcohol will do more than give you too many carbs...
kraze said:
um every weekend fri and sat, how much aer you drinking???
its counter productive, because alcohol will do more than give you too many carbs...
ProteinFiend
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id say go with hard liquor (without sugary mixers) or light beer.
make sure you have some protein or fat before you start drinking though.. and absolutely NO CARBS.
I like to eat some cheese or nuts before i drink, it prevents an insulin spike from the alcohol and thus you will store less fat.... pretzels or popcorn are a terrible choice.
enjoy bro, what good is life if you cant have a little fun once in a while? just remember to keep the odds on your side with some protein/fat.
make sure you have some protein or fat before you start drinking though.. and absolutely NO CARBS.
I like to eat some cheese or nuts before i drink, it prevents an insulin spike from the alcohol and thus you will store less fat.... pretzels or popcorn are a terrible choice.
enjoy bro, what good is life if you cant have a little fun once in a while? just remember to keep the odds on your side with some protein/fat.
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jenscats5
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I gave up drinking for the most part cuz there are just way too many calories. I will have a glass of wine (8 oz) once a week usually & if I have a beer I try to stick to Michelob Ultra cuz it has less than 3g carbs.
Mixer wise -- remember tonic water is 180 cals for a 16 oz glass!! Plus all the sugar!! Buy Diet Tonic water -- 0 cals & no sugar. Mix with vodka & lime.
Mixer wise -- remember tonic water is 180 cals for a 16 oz glass!! Plus all the sugar!! Buy Diet Tonic water -- 0 cals & no sugar. Mix with vodka & lime.
adrenalined
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Dude, One or two nights of boozing won't kill your deal! PERIOD! The danger lies here! When you drink the following chain reaction normally follows- 1- You want to eat JUNK FOOD! (tell I'm wrong!)lol 2- Your Training will suffer, if you even do it 3- Depending on your body chemistry, you will fell like shit for a day or two, and them back to normal!
I just TESTED this Theory this weekend! Thurs night 8oz's crown -danced my ass off so no calorie issue. Friday night 7oz's crown royal- I was at my hunting lease and there is a target rich night club 30 min's from the lease. Well I ate about 1000 cal's of crap on Sat, and missed my training Sat. But I'm still ripped to shreads, so ??????
`I am very motivated now however to see this through to the day of my show Nov 1st- so all in all, WELL WORTH IT!
I just TESTED this Theory this weekend! Thurs night 8oz's crown -danced my ass off so no calorie issue. Friday night 7oz's crown royal- I was at my hunting lease and there is a target rich night club 30 min's from the lease. Well I ate about 1000 cal's of crap on Sat, and missed my training Sat. But I'm still ripped to shreads, so ??????
`I am very motivated now however to see this through to the day of my show Nov 1st- so all in all, WELL WORTH IT!
rettoforever
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I wonder what the guys who juice have to say about alcohol? I don't see gear and beer mixing too clear!
(another rhyme from me-- sorry)
(another rhyme from me-- sorry)
adrenalined
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Well you would be asking me that question then! My answer stands the same!
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Deleted member 33117
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If you must drink, plan your refeed/cheat days around your clubbing. For example, I went out on Friday and Saturday night. Friday was a refeed, so I knocked down a pitcher of beer. I try to get about 8000 cals on a refeed day, so the calories are not an issue. The next night, I drank diet coke, and no alcohol, because it was a keto day. Alcohol will definately knock you out of ketosis, even if you are drinking low-carb beers.
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I would be careful about drinking on cutting cycles if you are using winstrol, or other 17-aa steroids. Try not to put such a large strain on your liver.
Moderate_THIS
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getting blazed and then sleeping until 5pm the next evening does wonders for my weight training recovery
kraze
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Thanks for everyone who gave me advice. For those others who said that drinking is not a must... I'm sorry, but I'm 21 (just turned that for a matter) and I'm only living once. Most the week I work , diet/workout, and go to school. What is all of this going to really accomplish? Why do most people work out? Some do it for the love, others to make themselves fit and more attractive-for finding women; like myself.
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