If time on = time off, when does the clock start...

[frorider6]

... at the end of your cycle or the end of your Clomid therapy?

I finished a 2.5 week Dbol/7 week Sust cycle at the end of November. I waited 3 weeks to begin Clomid therapy and am 2 weeks into that. I'm interested in an 8 week Primo only cycle (I don't want to make dramatic gains, only 15 or so lean lbs of muscle I won't lose).

Anyway, do I start counting my time off from my last injection or from my last Clomid?

 

[Victor]

good question , I also need to know this



Victor

 

[Zyglamail]

For me, androgen levels arent low enough to constitute off cycle until the time you begin clomid so for me, thats when the time off clock starts....when I start clomid.

 

[Bulldog_10]

Personally, I wait until I feel my normal test levels are back...then the clock starts. I'm never in a rush when it comes to starting my next cycle, and I don't think anyone should.

 

[Zyglamail]

Thats a good point bulldog. Blood work a couple weeks after clomid therapy is your best bet to determine where you stand.

 

[frorider6]

I know there's no rush to get back on another cycle. Hell, I don't even know if I'll be able to do one. I spend a lot of time with the girlfriend and don't think I could hide all the injections.

I just want to know. It's kind of a murky area.

Zyg - I agree about the blood work. But won't the doc get kinda suspicious if you keep walking in asking him to check your test levels? I talked my doc into it before my cycle, just to know my baseline, but I don't think I could get him to do it again without a nasty little interrogation.

 

[manny78]

My clock start after I take my last clomid. Then I consider myself as normal again.....

 

[Zyglamail]

Zyg - I agree about the blood work. But won't the doc get kinda suspicious if you keep walking in asking him to check your test levels? I talked my doc into it before my cycle, just to know my baseline, but I don't think I could get him to do it again without a nasty little interrogation.

They might, but at the same time many bro's tell thier docs they juice and in which case there wouldnt be questions asked. Also, in some cases, like mine, my mother passed away from high iron levels, grrr, cant even remember the name but supposedly its heridetary so I could go in a couple times a year and just ask to have it checked stating I dont feel so hot

 

[genarr3]

Personally, I wait until I feel my normal test levels are back...then the clock starts. I'm never in a rush when it comes to starting my next cycle, and I don't think anyone should.

Good answer.

 

[FrankRizzo]

You guys are men after my own heart

I sit and count up the days on my calendar to find my next "start date", and begin budgeting and planning my next cycle immediately. What sucks is that I am like a damn kid, the ON time seems to go so fast, while the OFF time feels like a year. LOL

 

[Iwillbe]

If your only doing primo why worry? Are you bridging with it at a low dose or doing some crazy dose?

I'm curious cuz I finished my sust/fina cycle and want to start bridging with primo (200mg) in 3wks

 

[solidspine]

The clocks starts after your last injection and before, your clomid.


However, depending upon how much primo you are on it too can affect your test levels, I was on just 400mg per week and had to admimister HCG post primo to bring my test back to normal.

 

[rperry]

i think the clock starts after clomod therapy. thats when your backl to mormal. let your body function for a while so it remembers what its suposed to do! then bash it with a nother cycle. wash rinse and repeat!