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If insulin has never worked for you try this

arthus

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People recomend to use 6 or maybe 10 I.U. of insulin in the morning. Well it didn't work for me so what I tryied is.
I do 6 meals per day so i shot 20 I.U. of Humalog before a meal, three times a day at least. Let me tell you that it worked awsome, i was all pumped up all the day, i really could feel the insulin.
My gains shot up again even though i tryied it at the very end of the cycle.

I'll do this again for all of my cycles.even when its kind of dangerous ground.
 
So what I just read was that you shoot a min-of 60ius of slin a day(that was minimum right)---GOOD LUCK!
 
ARTHUS, that sounds great for someone who can't store bodyfat, maybe with say congenital lipodystrophy, but for your average Joe, that is obesity heaven.

Also, your insulin receptors should be slammed into intolerance with those doses. Lets also not forget that insulin at high doses is mitogenic, especially to the endothelial lumen and any present atheromas. You won't have to change your name that much, though, from ARTHUS to Arteriosclerosis.
 
artyhur,

Let me tell you what worked for me, I only did insulin 2-3 times a weeks. But on the days I used it I used around 60 - 70 ius a day. I usally keep the dose at 20ius after work out, and then 15ius 2 later then 2 hours later 10 ius then 5 ius an hour later. It worked for ME, that means it could put some in the hospital. I did not respond to well to dose under 20ius after a couple of weeks. I only used the slin 2-3 days a week mainly because I was told to take a couple of days off after using insulin for 2 days, this way it makes your insulin receptors ready for the slin the next time it is injected. Also I have heard that ORAL make insulin work alot better than injectables. Strong orals will only increase the gains you will have on slin. If you cant get orals, use a water base drug since those are the closest kind of injectable to to orals (suspension or winstrol).

Hope this helps and if you have any more questions just email me.
 
hey Cockdezl- question

"Also, your insulin receptors should be slammed into intolerance with those doses. Lets also not forget that insulin at high doses is mitogenic, especially to the endothelial lumen and any present atheromas. You won't have to change your name that much, though, from ARTHUS to Arteriosclerosis."

what is the definition of a high dose??? and could you explain what that means in laymens terms? just means will clog arteries or what? thanks for the help- oh and do you use slin b/c of this or not? thanks for the help

-Soma
 
Re: hey Cockdezl- question

I don't mess with insulin, that system is a little to sensitive to be f'ing with......

Just my opinion
 
I have considerable experience with insulin, and I have a hard time with this post for a number of reasons.
Maybe you can hack 60iu, I don't know, but if some of our rookies read this and go out and fire up this amount, are you prepared to take responsibility for the consequences?
Those new to insulin should read Monster's primer and Stew's recent post on the topic, not this.
 
Just as said above, I feel the best info you can get on the subject of insulin is to read " Monsters insulin Primer ". It is located in the archives under insulin. This info has helped me more than I say.
 
A non-diabetics cannot take 20 ui, 3 times a day. This guy is either a huge liar, he means 2 ui or he eats so much carbs and protein it's pumping out his HEAD.
Or he might just got some serious diabetics right now !
Not a chance 20 ui.... ha ha :)

I'm a diabetic and been so for 16 years. I use 12 iu in the morning normally, 12 to lunch and 18 ui to dinner.
:mad:
 
OK i posted this thread a while ago.

A non-diabetics cannot take 20 ui, 3 times a day. This guy is either a huge liar, he means 2 ui or he eats so much carbs and protein it's pumping out his HEAD.

Say why a non-diabetic cannot take 20 units three times a day. What did you say...? 2 units? that will do nothing smart guy. Be more specific please. Yes I eat a lot, I try to do 7000 cals per day. Nop, I didnt become a diabetic.

And no... I dont care if a newbe shoots 60 U.I. and dies. What I know is that if you know no crap about insulin and you start shooting it with the first technique you find in the net written by god knows who then you deserve it.

Paul Borrensen recommend to shot 50 I.U. of Mixtard 70/30 in the morning and then 10 I. U. of Humalog before each meal. that would make about 100 I.U. per day. So Im not the only person that has thought about this.
 
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This is a technique I use just the first 3weeks in my cycles and also when i do the injections im at home where im close to the fridge and so if anything happens Im relatively safe there. This is a technique I think i ve masterd already but then again I dont feel very comfortable when i use it.

If your goal is to use anabolics just to have abs for the summer then you should definetely skip insulin let alone this technique. Also if youve used insulin at regular 10 I.U. and has worked for you then skip this trick also.

This board is now full of kids that think their the sh** just cause they got in a course of Dbol, and thats why I dont post here anymore, but I felt I had to reply to this old thread of mine. EF board is not what it used to be.

Chiau fags:D
 
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Well, you might manage it once in a while, 20 iu, if you eat a hell lot, but 3-4 times a day seems just wicked.
I think you only speaks bullshit, trying to impress people on the board or whatever, doesn't seem to work though :)

And who the hell do you think know most of insulin if I've been a diabetic for 16 year.

One of my friends just started with Humalog, he takes 10 iu in the morning and 10 iu after training. He's about 230 lbs now, and intake about 6500-8000 kcal / day !
And he feels a lot of that. Everybody is different, but don't recommend that dosages to others.
 
yea molle thats me. i take 12 iu in morning and 10 iu in middle of day and 8 iu after training,and i got pump all the time.i use molle verry much aboute my doz,how to feel and so,and i think i have my right doz now,thats fore sure he nows,and i am glad to have him ,course i getting bigger.:D
 
Thanks Micke ! The key is to try it out, cos we are all different. 12, 10, 8 works good, yeah. I know you eat a hell lot though....he he. Thanks for the yoghurt tips, gives me good gains. 3 liters/day of yoghurt !!!! The before going to bed is the best, though... :D
 
arthus stop talking about using insulin and your so called knowledge like it makes you more of a man than anyone else. You are clearly a mental midget who needs any excuse to pump up his own ego whether it be with drugs, bullshit theories, or playing tough guy who doesn't care if someone else hurts themselves. Here's a tip: save the money you use for insulin and spend it on a very good psychologist. You'll need that help once you come down off of all the drugs that have made you think you're more of a man than you are.
 
God, I love it when AnabolicD gets pissed. You should come meet him, arthus.....he's like 6'5 280 pounds with a real bad temper.
 
hey anabolic D.i hope you dont pisst at me,when i talk to you before you suggest that i should take 20iu in morning and 15 in evening.and i dont have any problem i feel verry good.:mix:
 
arthus stop talking about using insulin and your so called knowledge like it makes you more of a man than anyone else.

Im not trying to be more of a man when I post what I have tryied. Why did you said that, did i make you feel less of a man? Why would I try to impress someone I dont even know, who are you an IFBB pro?

You are clearly a mental midget who needs any excuse to pump up his own ego whether it be with drugs, BULLSHIT THEORIES

Its not bullshit theory why would it be, like I said before, I tryied it after I read book the STACK by Paul Borrensen in which he says how to use the insulin at those levels, besides i read in some other places how people would try three shoots of Humilin R at 15 I.U. per shot, I do 3 of 20 Units with HUMALOG which is even easier to deal with


Way to much insulin to be fucking with unless your 350 pounds.

Perhaps, but it all depends how you react to it. Like i said, i tried the 4, 8,10,12,15 Units after workout and none didnt seem to work

Hey Arthur! These guys are mad!!!

I know pajaro loco you should give me a hand :D

God, I love it when AnabolicD gets pissed. You should come meet him, arthus.....he's like 6'5 280 pounds with a real bad temper.

Ironmaster I respect you, I have read a lot of your posts, but this just sounds like something that a kid in elementary school says to impress the other children. Im pretty sure all of us here are big.



I behave like a moron because I just dont understand why, when I come with a new way to use something that gave good results, people start talking shit and crap about me. Whats wrong with you people, If you havent tried something dont start kicking every body else. I understand that insulin is dangerous but thats why you have to be really careful when you use it, and of course begin with small amounts

See you all later.
 
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Well, you are right, Arthus...that was an unnecessary response. It offended me, though, when you said you didn't care if some newbie died from too much insulin. We need to look out for one another.
You sound more reasonable today. I use crazy amounts of things, also, sometimes, as you know.....but I don't recommend it to others.
 
bump for the AD and ironmaster....

btw iron i got my leg lanced ..should be back to the grind soon....dems da breaks
 
arthus said:
And no... I dont care if a newbe shoots 60 U.I. and dies. What I know is that if you know no crap about insulin and you start shooting it with the first technique you find in the net written by god knows who then you deserve it.

Don't be a dick :)
 
Anyway, Arthus - if you use this kind of amounts as you said in your first reply:
"I do 6 meals per day so i shot 20 I.U. of Humalog before a meal, three times a day at least..."

Don't you think you will become a diabetic sooner or later? Just a opinon.

Cos many diabetics don't use these amounts a day... I don't know you weight or your sensitivity to Insulin, nor do I know what you really eat afterwards...or how long you use those stacks.

Seems dangerous and risky though.

Peace/molle
 
Well, you are right, Arthus...that was an unnecessary response. It offended me, though, when you said you didn't care if some newbie died from too much insulin. We need to look out for one another.

Yes, I now realize that I behaved like a dick in that response about the newbies, and I know that I offended some people and I apologize for that. However, allow me to remind you all that I was the first person offended here, and not just by one person, thats why I reacted like that, I was just trying to defend myself.

Don't you think you will become a diabetic sooner or later? Just a opinon.

Cos many diabetics don't use these amounts a day... I don't know you weight or your sensitivity to Insulin, nor do I know what you really eat afterwards...or how long you use those stacks.

Molle This isnt something I use all year. I use insulin this way 3 weeks every 3months and also since Im on a 1day on 1day off in the gym I use the insulin in the days on and perhaps some days off, but I do take rests to let the body get on line again.


OK shake hands guys!

Yup, I vote for that cos sonner or later everybody in the board will be willing to kick my ass;)
 
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The only reason I reacted harshly is the WAY you said what you said arthus. I think if you get good results from whatever you choose to do then more power to you and stay healthy. Personally, however, I don't like it when people use BB'ing or whatever knowledge they have to the detriment of others. If you're really that smart and good at the things you do, why not HELP others rather than shoce it in their face. Of course others will have differing opinions and will post them but they are entitled to disagree.

In regards to the 60 units a day of slin, I don't think that more is better but its how you take it that can affect your results. Some guys may need alot more slin when doing very androgenic compounds with GH all together- higher doses may then be warranted. For just the slin alone, I don't equate dosage with results. Results come with technique and knowing your body and I'm sure you could do less slin, be safer, and get the same results- depending on the other things you're taking. I would like to know more details about your gains made with slin and how you are figuring out exactly what gains are from slin or other things etc- AD
 
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