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Johnny Zampon
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shit will be really fucked up.
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DcupSheepNipples
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No more pubs in Ireland for you!
Depends........
The lose of what....they are not going to invade.
Freedom of religion is what this country is founded on so.....be what you want.
The lose come in the way of a life style change.
You should know that better than us, Bouncer.
Just what kind of security stuff will we have to go thru.
Are we going to end up with cameras everywhere.
Check points on the road.
Etc. Etc.
The lose of what....they are not going to invade.
Freedom of religion is what this country is founded on so.....be what you want.
The lose come in the way of a life style change.
You should know that better than us, Bouncer.
Just what kind of security stuff will we have to go thru.
Are we going to end up with cameras everywhere.
Check points on the road.
Etc. Etc.
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MoneyBags
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1. what does christianity have to do with anything?
2. how could we possibly lose this war?
2. how could we possibly lose this war?
I don't think you'll ever see anything but planes and black op's.
Really don't think they will risk any large troop movements.
It would really be stupid.....rule the sky and drop your people in and out.
The lose would be the public losing interest and support.
That will never happen this time...the lose was to great.
Really don't think they will risk any large troop movements.
It would really be stupid.....rule the sky and drop your people in and out.
The lose would be the public losing interest and support.
That will never happen this time...the lose was to great.
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MoneyBags
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bouncer said:
i dont see why people dont realize how incredibly easy it is to destroy them there. israel has taken out 5 arab nations at once. afghanistan is the 3rd poorest nation in the world. this is so easy its ridiculous.
more people rally to bin ladens cause and his ranks swell
maybe their attacks increase. in which case there will be hell to pay for the muslims in this country. im guessing theyll start kicking them out or really monitor them just to try and stop any further attacks. if the terrorism continues it will cost america so much i think a large scal bombardment is inevitable. which is sad but if these guys wanna stop it they need to root out these terrorists r their countries gonna become one biog fireball. id also be wary of the chinese response
maybe their attacks increase. in which case there will be hell to pay for the muslims in this country. im guessing theyll start kicking them out or really monitor them just to try and stop any further attacks. if the terrorism continues it will cost america so much i think a large scal bombardment is inevitable. which is sad but if these guys wanna stop it they need to root out these terrorists r their countries gonna become one biog fireball. id also be wary of the chinese response
bouncer
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Sorry I had to keep the question worded so short, I had an accident with boiling fat tonight and can't type.
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MoneyBags said:
please
israel was damn lucky its still here. if it wasnt for the stupidity of the egyptians and 1 bit of luck on israel/americas part israel wouldnt be here
afghansitan sucks in terms of terrain. its gonna be hard to find one dude living in a cave now isn't it. russia lost, what makes you think you can't? of course nuking the place into the stone age would work, but imagine the backlash from all the other oil producing countries ....not pretty
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DcupSheepNipples
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It's impossible, unless somehow someway they got access to either all of russia or our nukes and launched them against us.
First, we are not looking to occupy.
Second, Isreal is the last country on my list to fuk with. Think what you want but them boy have it going on. Hardwork creates its own kind of luck.
Thrid, the American people would do with out alot to turn the backlash of the oil producing countries. They need the sales of that oil just as bad as we need them. It works both ways.
Second, Isreal is the last country on my list to fuk with. Think what you want but them boy have it going on. Hardwork creates its own kind of luck.
Thrid, the American people would do with out alot to turn the backlash of the oil producing countries. They need the sales of that oil just as bad as we need them. It works both ways.
once (i hope) you win, what then? leave. no, youd have to deploy peace keepers for a while, just to make sure the new government isnt deposed straight away. plus ground war means just that. the russians lost becasue stinger missles kept getting their copters, so thety lost air power. the terrain was so harsh it was hard to fight on the ground. you'd have those same problems
im just saying that israel defeating th 8 or so arab states was not the norm. the only reason they won was because they got the egyptian airforce (which vastly outnumbered theirs and was the biggest the arabs had) while IT WAS ON THE GROUND. then they tonked all the tanks with complete air superiority virtually. were it not for the egyptians failing to guard their lovely russian radar system adequetly and know that they needed fighter cover this wouldnt have happened. moneybags thinks warfare in afghanistan will be easy, im saying it wont. hell today they showed a bombing attempt on caves which destroyed all the villagers topside but left the caves intact.
the oil producing countries would ramp up the cost of oil and hit you wehere it hurts. they 1) can sell you the oil at extortionate prices 2) have other customers in the world
you can invade them but histories shown you shouldnt stretch your forces too thinly (ya thats what ya got troops in turkey for but still its risky), plus would NATO support this mass escalation. unlikely. trust me you'll want your oil and the way u dudes use it, the alsaka reserves will dry up FAST
im just saying that israel defeating th 8 or so arab states was not the norm. the only reason they won was because they got the egyptian airforce (which vastly outnumbered theirs and was the biggest the arabs had) while IT WAS ON THE GROUND. then they tonked all the tanks with complete air superiority virtually. were it not for the egyptians failing to guard their lovely russian radar system adequetly and know that they needed fighter cover this wouldnt have happened. moneybags thinks warfare in afghanistan will be easy, im saying it wont. hell today they showed a bombing attempt on caves which destroyed all the villagers topside but left the caves intact.
the oil producing countries would ramp up the cost of oil and hit you wehere it hurts. they 1) can sell you the oil at extortionate prices 2) have other customers in the world
you can invade them but histories shown you shouldnt stretch your forces too thinly (ya thats what ya got troops in turkey for but still its risky), plus would NATO support this mass escalation. unlikely. trust me you'll want your oil and the way u dudes use it, the alsaka reserves will dry up FAST
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DcupSheepNipples
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Isreal has 200 nukes and has a master plan place if for some reason all the Arab countries attacked them and they could'nt stop them conventially.
they might have nukes NOW
back then they were gone-ers until america stepped in. 8 arab countries with russian weapons aganst a then non-nuclear israel. they would not have survived were it not for america. im not arguing an anti-israel theme here and its not what this thread is about so maybe we should talk about it here as bouncer probably wasnt wanting this to happen.
all i was trying to tell moneybags is its dangerous to underestiomate an enemy like he was doing. having a politician pulling the militaries strings depending ion public opinion is just as dangerous if things go tits up
yes now if any of the arabs invaded israels got enough nukes to make that whole reigon one big light bulb , thats due ti them and the US help btw
back then they were gone-ers until america stepped in. 8 arab countries with russian weapons aganst a then non-nuclear israel. they would not have survived were it not for america. im not arguing an anti-israel theme here and its not what this thread is about so maybe we should talk about it here as bouncer probably wasnt wanting this to happen.
all i was trying to tell moneybags is its dangerous to underestiomate an enemy like he was doing. having a politician pulling the militaries strings depending ion public opinion is just as dangerous if things go tits up
yes now if any of the arabs invaded israels got enough nukes to make that whole reigon one big light bulb , thats due ti them and the US help btw
We will never be defeated Bouncer, I don't care about how you feel about the use of nuclear weapons either, You are plenty far enough away to not be concerned about fall out, your kids will be safe if we do use the bomb. In fact the longer we put off useing the bomb the less safe the world is. Simple really. I would love to get all the nerve gas that is stored in my home state out of here as it in poor condition for handling, the best way to get rid of it is to use it as intended. Shipout what can be used and deploy it in Afganistan. Say bye bye to all of the Arabs... None of them can be trusted despite what they say.......Osama has asked every single muslim in the world to kill as many Americans as possible, does this make you feel safe? I didn't think so.........
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MoneyBags
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danielson said:
looking for one guy? finding bin laden has nothing to do with the success of this war. eventually we will kill him. more importantly we must beat the shit out of the entire group of terrorists. that is an easy task.
also i dont see the russian invasion as a loss. russia lost 15,000 soldiers they killed 1 million afghanis. we could easily wipe them out.
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Warik
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bouncer said:
What if I grow wings, fly around, and shoot lightning bolts out of my ass? What if the Sun suddenly turns into a black hole while the Borg come and assimilate humanity?
No point in asking questions that involve events that could never happen in the real world.
-Warik
the Prince
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Based on the principles for us being at war with Afganhastan, I do not think we can lose.
In other words, I think we will be over there fighting until either they give in to the US demands, or we blow the entire country up. Losing is not an option for the US.
In other words, I think we will be over there fighting until either they give in to the US demands, or we blow the entire country up. Losing is not an option for the US.
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ryker77
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The fact is we haven't won a war since WWII...
The facts are......we have huffed and puffed before when we have had people killed.....remember the 241 Marines? We did nothing....no one has been caught for that yet, YET our government says they know who did it. Because we are so dependent on the oil, we won't use nukes in Afghanistan.....no matter what you people think.......we won't.....we will lose a lot of soldiers, and be attacked here before that will happen. I'm convinced that it will take about a year to defeat the Taliban...unless we get lucky and bin Laden and his group make a stupid mistake. Bush cannot afford to "lose". We'll suffer a lot of casualties if we have to.....he's already made a token mention of that....in case. Anybody who thinks that we can just march over there and bomb Afghanistan and kill bin Laden...doesn't know our history. We've already given a ton of money made promises to other countries who sponsor terrorism.....and promised Pakistan help (money). So we're paying for the right to go over there and find bin Laden, and his group.....stupid....if we're so big and bad, why are we paying......because none of those people over there give a fuck, so if we don't get this done soon, we won't be able to work from Pakistan, or any other country.....in the area....we'll have to work from the aircraft carriers.....precisely why we have 4 over there.......
FrankRizzo
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Not to worry...America has the old RizzMiester on it's side. If shit starts looking bad for us I will personnaly go over there and pimp slap every punk with a towel on his head and set em straight.
FrankRizzo
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And Gymnpoppa - if U R gonna go sit out on the porch and blow a fattie don't be comin back on here and gettin philosophical with us! 
FrankRizzo said:And Gymnpoppa - if U R gonna go sit out on the porch and blow a fattie don't be comin back on here and gettin philosophical with us!
Fuck you.....you're just pissed because I made you pass it
ya bastid! Puff PUff give, you're fucking up the rotation....you scavenger!
bouncer
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First off guys, at this stage I don't think America will lose. And I hope the American public has the belly for a dirty fight. While I, and the vast majority of christians don't see it as a war against islam, if America lose's the muslims will threat it as a victory for islam.
In the week of Sept. 11th I thought America would have nuked Afghanistan, and thats probably the time you should have done it. When the whole world was appalled at the WTC murder's.
Ok typing one handed is slow.
Bouncer
In the week of Sept. 11th I thought America would have nuked Afghanistan, and thats probably the time you should have done it. When the whole world was appalled at the WTC murder's.
Ok typing one handed is slow.
Bouncer
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