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Ideas on making the training board better?
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wnt2bBeast
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i would think more variety of opinions from mods and other experienced people..i have nothing aginst HST( never tried) but it seems that the training board is slanted towards that and if you do something other than HST your a fool..i tend to stay on the training board only because it moves faster than the powerlifting forum..granted my opinions get me in trouble sometimes but i try to offer what has worked for me in the past no jsut some recycled trash i read in a mag..that is why i really od think the pl and training forum should be one..hell we all know trying something different may jsut be the answer..the definition of stupidity is doing the same thing twice and expecting a different result each time!!!
wnt2bBeast said:
No kidding? If anything, I had the opposite thought. I've seen more people speak skeptically of HST than I've seen support it, I think
Bah. No matter...
That also works as the definition of insanity
Heh.I like your thoughts. I dunno just how I feel about merging the PL and "training" forums--I'm really indifferent there--but I wouldn't be altogether averse to the idea.
IF a merge was made, though, we'd have to have a moratorium on "powerlifters are fat, bodybuilding is best"/"BBers are weak fags, PLing rOxors"-type comments. I've participated in a no. of forums in the last 9 years or so, and these stupid looks vs. performance squabbles never go anywhere. Said arguments can actually get very nasty, easily on a par with religious, political or ideological disagreements.
Quite simply, we can learn from one another without putting another man/woman's methods or goals down. We'll actually learn more when no longer distracted by pointless flames and other bullshit.
That's my point zero two of a buck
BOOEY
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I like the idea of merging the boards. You really see the same stuff recycled, not that its a bad thing, but sometimes we need variety. I'll go through phases of posting a lot and then not posting mainly because the same issues are being brought up again and again, gets kind of frustrating.
Guld- I think the people who post here regularly aren't that immature where they will be bashing non-bodybuilders. One of the reasons I stay on Elite is b/c how classy the reg. members are, so that shouldn't be too much of a problem.
Guld- I think the people who post here regularly aren't that immature where they will be bashing non-bodybuilders. One of the reasons I stay on Elite is b/c how classy the reg. members are, so that shouldn't be too much of a problem.
wnt2bBeast
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guld good points as well..i agree it may be tough if the two forums are merged..since ive been here on elite they have always been separate..there must be a reason for this..no doubt from time to time im sure you will have some wanting to hash out the same old tired argument of overweight pl'er vs greek god BB'ers..ive seena hint of it on the anabolic forum where some feel since pl'er are more concerned with lower reps they lift for "ego"..
booey i would hope we here arent immature..but without naming names there are some very opinionated people that feel theres only one way to do things..if theres anything we should leanr is that theres more than one way to achieve your goals
booey i would hope we here arent immature..but without naming names there are some very opinionated people that feel theres only one way to do things..if theres anything we should leanr is that theres more than one way to achieve your goals
wnt2bBeast
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thats the thing people should talk about what works for them..thats how we learn..i know you like your routine ( if its good run with it) but realize that higher volume may be someone elses optimal routine..look at walking beast..you have enough knowledge to help someone set up any kind of split otherwise you wouldnt be a mod..offer how you would set it up and say that you dont think this is best or something like i really wouldnt do that because....people will do what they want and theyll have to fail at routines before they stumble onto the right pathcasualbb said:
JohnRobHolmes
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i second search function for all members. it would save people time if i could find a post on creatine, for example- instead of needing to make a new topic about it. this could be part of the problem of revisited subjects booey brought up
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Debaser
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wnt2bBeast said:
He won't "realize" this because it's not the truth. One thing we need to get away from is the bodybuilding mantra of "everyone's different." Obviously, genetics have their influence and may cause one man to be significantly larger than a man of a much smaller frame, or perhaps gain at a different rate, but the principles of muscular growth are universal.
wnt2bBeast
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your mising the point..let that person decide what is best for them through trial and error..you can give advice with a caveat such as "this is not the best route"..i know your fond of looking at different training methods and eastern bloc stuff..well i found a so called russian squat routine where you squat twice per week and the volume is rediculously high..im talking like 10 sets on the second squat session not for light weight either..personally i think its way to difficult for a natural trainer does this mean it doesn have merit..i doubt it..im sure it works..Debaser said:
your post makes my original point of the one track mind that dominates the training board..i dont mean that as a rip against you..training doesnt begin and end with HST
wnt2bBeast
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wtf is capiche its capisce lolcasualbb said:Debaser... I appreciate the backup. But let's treat HST like judaism and not like mormonism... capiche?
and you really mean to say "hai capito" 
crew9
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I think we need to have more discussions or at least not end the discussions so quickly. The whole "shut up and lift" mentality works in the gym great but here I don't think so. After all you do have to click on "discussion" boards to get here. If we didn't discuss anything we might as well just close the board and whenever someone clicks the link they get directed to a page that simply says "shutup and lift"
It's not the board the discourages this it's a few individuals. Perhaps some friendly reminders that this is a discussion board could help.
It's not the board the discourages this it's a few individuals. Perhaps some friendly reminders that this is a discussion board could help.
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wnt2bBeast said:
this is the best way for ALL trainees. if you do not do this at some point you will never really understand or have true mastery of what does and does not work...
learning through actual experience is second to none... even scientific research does not compare (and I am the first to tout science as the end all be all)
MsBeverlyHills
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DieHarder said:
I agree... & add the Strongman board to that
Tactile
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I remember my confusion and frustration as a newbie in trying to select exercises for the different body parts. Coming up with a skeleton of a split was OK, but filling it in with the exercises was a little tougher if I wanted something other than the most basic meat & potato exercises.
I don't believe I've run across a site yet that has stickies such as "Pecs", "Quads", "Hamstrings", etc. And then within that sticky people can add exercises for that body part, and at the same time can debate the merits or proper form for those exercises. It could be a little tough though for some exercises that cover a couple of different muscles at the same time, such as pullovers, upright rows.
I think it would've been helpful to me at first to read through screens and screens of shoulder exercises and criticisms when trying to put together the shoulder part of the split that I was creating at the time.
I don't believe I've run across a site yet that has stickies such as "Pecs", "Quads", "Hamstrings", etc. And then within that sticky people can add exercises for that body part, and at the same time can debate the merits or proper form for those exercises. It could be a little tough though for some exercises that cover a couple of different muscles at the same time, such as pullovers, upright rows.
I think it would've been helpful to me at first to read through screens and screens of shoulder exercises and criticisms when trying to put together the shoulder part of the split that I was creating at the time.
