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samsaige

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i am going to start a cycle next week of test enan only for 12 weeks, just waiting for the gear to come in by next week,

here is my delimma, i am opening a restaurant by the end of september. i wont be runing it anywhere in between due to not being able to get liqour license right away, equipment etc...

now here is the thing:
if i start 12 week cycle next week that will be july 15th, which means a 12 week cycle will run until about october 15th.

i know i will make the commitment to workout and eat right, but you think it is ok to be jucing and trying to start a business? i know test levels will pop up high as hell and you will become more aggressive with workouts and stronger, but do you think i will become way more edgy and irritable?
and the other thing is pct, am i going to be emotionally a wreck during pct? i have to stay positive and iin good frame of mind for the startup of the restaurant.

so should i switch to test cyp or test prop instead for a 6 week cycle? may be with dbol to accelllerate the first couple weeks and then stop after 6 weeks?

i know it is a long thread here, but i would appreciate advice on this.

thankd
 
on cycle, you will have the energy to run it, i would bet, better than normal

pct is another story

maybe run a long cycle or wait till your established

i would hate to be unmotivated while trying to start a new biz

good luck to you and your biz
 
5x10 said:
on cycle, you will have the energy to run it, i would bet, better than normal

PCT - post cycle therapy - is another story

maybe run a long cycle or wait till your established

i would hate to be unmotivated while trying to start a new biz

good luck to you and your biz

problem is once i start the restaurant, it will consume alot of my life, and i think this is the only chance i have to get this done, before i sell my soul to the devil for the next 5 years.

you still dont think a short cyle of a differnt test woulod not work?
 
Here's the glaring problem I see. You said "I know I will make the committment to workout and eat right". Seriously bro, if you haven't ALREADY made that committment and if you're not already doing it (and have been doing it for at least 18 month - at least!) you have no business messing with gear. Bust your ass in the gym without the sauce and it will help you deal with the stress of opening a new business. Trust me bro, you're just better off training naturally for awhile.
 
Bro to be honest, most people here that cycle also hold normal steady jobs. Why do you think you would have more trouble than anyone else? You are talking about a test only cycle, not a 100mgED of prop/ace. I think you are over stating the effects that you think you will have.

On P.C.T. just stick to derma and away from clomid if you are worried about becoming a emotional wreak.

JMHO
 
I wouldn't do a short cycle. From what I have read, you don't start seeing the benefits of test for the first four weeks. In my opinion, if you're going to run a cycle, you should do it right.

Opening a restaurant is tough, and it does consume a lot of your time. You have two options:

1) Start the 12 week cycle and see it through, no matter how stressed you get, how many hours you work etc.

2) Wait until after you open the restaurant, get comfortable, work out a work and training schedule, etc.

To me, it makes more sense to wait. Right now, you may think you know what you're going to work, but it will change. I know, from experience (I used to own a restaurant in Vegas). When running a cycle, training is only one part of it. The other two parts, are diet and rest. Ask yourself will you be training as hard as you should? Will you be eating as well as you should? Will you be getting enough rest? If you answer no to any of these questions, I would wait. (I think if you look at it honestly, you would answer no to all three of the questions). Just wait bro, your gear ain't going anywhere and things will look different in 3 months. Just my opinion. Good luck!
 
bluetwistedsteel67 said:
Here's the glaring problem I see. You said "I know I will make the committment to workout and eat right". Seriously bro, if you haven't ALREADY made that committment and if you're not already doing it (and have been doing it for at least 18 month - at least!) you have no business messing with gear. Bust your ass in the gym without the sauce and it will help you deal with the stress of opening a new business. Trust me bro, you're just better off training naturally for awhile.

ok, my apologies, i mis-stated what i said

""I know I will make the committment to workout and eat right"

meaning that i will continue to eat right and workout in the future. i have been lifting and eating well for past 3 years, and even did an amature body building competetion (only got 5th place sadly). so i am doing everything by the book and i will to do so even after opening the restaurant, that is what i meant.
 
partagus said:
I wouldn't do a short cycle. From what I have read, you don't start seeing the benefits of test for the first four weeks. In my opinion, if you're going to run a cycle, you should do it right.

Opening a restaurant is tough, and it does consume a lot of your time. You have two options:

1) Start the 12 week cycle and see it through, no matter how stressed you get, how many hours you work etc.

2) Wait until after you open the restaurant, get comfortable, work out a work and training schedule, etc.

To me, it makes more sense to wait. Right now, you may think you know what you're going to work, but it will change. I know, from experience (I used to own a restaurant in Vegas). When running a cycle, training is only one part of it. The other two parts, are diet and rest. Ask yourself will you be training as hard as you should? Will you be eating as well as you should? Will you be getting enough rest? If you answer no to any of these questions, I would wait. (I think if you look at it honestly, you would answer no to all three of the questions). Just wait bro, your gear ain't going anywhere and things will look different in 3 months. Just my opinion. Good luck!

but test prop is supposed to kick in by the second week? still no go?
 
Fuck that,opening and running a restaraunt is a bitch,we're talking 12-14 hour days,6-7 days a week,my family has been in the business since I was a kid,as we are now,and have had many experiences w/ running them,family and others.Stressful,time consuming,short sleep,irregular schedual,you name it.I vote NO,wait a couple months until at least you get your routine down,and schedual settled,focus on the most important thing in your life right now,your investment and livelyhood.That time is now,the cycle can be done whenever......
 
samsaige said:
i am going to start a cycle next week of test enan only for 12 weeks, just waiting for the gear to come in by next week,

here is my delimma, i am opening a restaurant by the end of september. i wont be runing it anywhere in between due to not being able to get liqour license right away, equipment etc...

now here is the thing:
if i start 12 week cycle next week that will be july 15th, which means a 12 week cycle will run until about october 15th.

i know i will make the commitment to workout and eat right, but you think it is ok to be jucing and trying to start a business? i know test levels will pop up high as hell and you will become more aggressive with workouts and stronger, but do you think i will become way more edgy and irritable?
and the other thing is PCT - post cycle therapy - , am i going to be emotionally a wreck during PCT - post cycle therapy - ? i have to stay positive and iin good frame of mind for the startup of the restaurant.

so should i switch to test testosterone cypionate or test testosterone propionate instead for a 6 week cycle? may be with Dianabol - methandrostenolone - to accelllerate the first couple weeks and then stop after 6 weeks?

i know it is a long thread here, but i would appreciate advice on this.

thankd

bro,.......slow down and listen to yourself. YOu act like you're freaking out. Will you get irritated easlily on a cycle, maybe. will you get irritated starting a business, yes. Will you be an emotional wreck duringn pct, maybe. will you be an emotional wreck running a new restaurant? yes. stop worrying about all this unnecessary shit and just do the cycle. enjoy it, enjoy your gains, do a proper pct and keep most of your gains. And do you know how lucky you are with opening a new restaurant? You will be eating better everyday than most of us. Just make one of your employees make up a meal ed after your done working out. This is your first cycle coming up, .........you will love it..
 
ironclaw said:
bro,.......slow down and listen to yourself. YOu act like you're freaking out. Will you get irritated easlily on a cycle, maybe. will you get irritated starting a business, yes. Will you be an emotional wreck duringn PCT - post cycle therapy - , maybe. will you be an emotional wreck running a new restaurant? yes. stop worrying about all this unnecessary shit and just do the cycle. enjoy it, enjoy your gains, do a proper PCT - post cycle therapy - and keep most of your gains. And do you know how lucky you are with opening a new restaurant? You will be eating better everyday than most of us. Just make one of your employees make up a meal ed after your done working out. This is your first cycle coming up, .........you will love it..
So why not put them both together and see what happens.......(sarcasm),sorry ironclaw,gotta disagree,been through 1 troublesome,and 2 successful restaraunt openings,seen both sides of the coin,one of the best was the second biggest rest. in Mi,and the largest microbrewery in Mi.(8/97'),great experience when I was 22 years old,at 32 now,3 kids,wife,business to manage,would'nt go back to that unless pay was double what I make now.The man will make his own decision ultimately,but opening a restaraunt is like no other creature,hard to imagine unless you've done it,I vote wait a month or two.Best of luck Sams.....
 
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