I weigh 224lbs now

[AAP]

I was at 215lbs before Thanksgiving. I have not been doing any cardio like I used to in the warmer weather swimming a mile each day at the beach. I am up 9 pounds and it is very evident. It is not fat, but more like extra water in the muscle. My lifts have gone up considerably. I was able to hit 335 on the bench for 6 reps today. I had been stuck at 4 reps for about 6 months.

I am going to have to re-evaluate my upcoming cycle. I was originally trying to hit 235lbs on my first cycle. Now I may be shooting to try to hit 242-245lbs.

Rest = The Best Anabolic......

 

[Big Buck]

Nice job AA. Good luck w/ the cycle!!

 

[AAP]

After this cycle, I can honestly say I have been sticking things in MY ass for a change.

 

[frorider6]

You're such a liar! You're really just a big pussy.


(As long as it's cold in Denver, I can't like you. By the way, know anyplace I can get good travel packages to Florida?)

 

[frorider6]

Hey Anal, what physique are you going for? Fitness model, bobybuilder, powerlifter, big and strong, big and cut...

What's your current height and body fat?

 

[Bull69]

Anal,

What type of cycle are you on? I have gone from 250 to 278 from trhanksgiving until now. It is not fat either, but I am retaining some water. I plan on going up to 285 then cutting down until I am around 9%bf. These are the best results I have ever gotten.

 

[AAP]

Fro - what part of Florida do you want to visit? The best packages are ones that you make yourself. That way it is cheaper.

Bull - I am not on a cycle now. I am still waiting until Feb to start my very first cycle. I am going to do 600mg EQ weekly and 50mg Winny daily.


As far as physique wise, I am 5'10", I am not sure of bodyfat, never had it measured, but I do have a clearly defined six pack and serratus. My waist is 31 inches. If I can bring my hams up to balance, I may compete in the future.

 

[frorider6]

Fro - what part of Florida do you want to visit? The best packages are ones that you make yourself. That way it is cheaper.

I don't care where I go in Florida as long as it's on the Atlantic and has good surfing. I want to spend a week doing nothing but learning how to surf.

 

[AAP]

That would be South beach Miami. You can visit HaulOver nude beach, Ft. Lauderdale all 20 mins. away. Staying in Ft. Lauderdale would be cheaper. Right now, though the water is quite cold .

 

[frorider6]

A nude beach would be awesome. I know my girlfriend would be up for it. I'll look into some Ft. Lauderdale packages. Thanks.

 

[starfish]

froider6,

I just got home from Florida. I vacationed from Palm Beach to Ft. Lauderdale to South Beach to Key West..

PM if you want to know what it's like

starfish

 

[AAP]

There are not really any 'packages' to come to Ft. Lauderdale with. Best thing to do is decide when you want to come and I will round you up some hotel rates and nearby info. Tell me what you like as far as arts, etc.. go and I will check the community calenedar.

 

[frorider6]

There are not really any 'packages' to come to Ft. Lauderdale with. Best thing to do is decide when you want to come and I will round you up some hotel rates and nearby info. Tell me what you like as far as arts, etc.. go and I will check the community calenedar.

Yeah, I'll make sure to plan my vacation around the local crafts fair. Sorry.

Actually, I talked with my girl about this last night. My main goal is to learn how to surf. She has done it before (San Diego girl) so she'll be doing that with me during the day. At night, it's all about the party. She says she's rather party with locals though than at cheesy tourist traps.

As for hotels, I'm thinking cheap and on the beach.

 

[AAP]

The reason I mentioned the arts and craft things is because when they are in town, you can't get a room anywhere.

 

[The Shadow]

Go with Fina/Winny/Anavar

I have been told *cough* that it will put 11 pounds on you in 6 weeks with a 1% drop in BF...

 

[frorider6]

The reason I mentioned the arts and craft things is because when they are in town, you can't get a room anywhere.

Ah, good call. I'll let you know if I'm planning a trip there. It's still up in the air right now.

 

[The Shadow]

Anal,

but I am retaining some water.

28 pounds in 6 weeks.?? Ya think LOL!

 

[frorider6]

As long as we're talking about cycles in this thread, I have a dumb question. Purely for academic curiosity. Let's just pretend I wanted to do a deca cycle, partly for mass, partly to help with the joints. My overall goals are only about 10-15 lbs lean mass over 8 weeks. I want to avoid deca dick at all costs. And speaking of cost, that is a factor too. Liquidex is already on hand, as well as nolva's, and enough D-Bol for 10 mg/day for 6 weeks.

So what cycle am I looking at here. I'm thinking the deca should be run around 300mg/week.

 

[The Shadow]

As long as we're talking about cycles in this thread, I have a dumb question. Purely for academic curiosity. Let's just pretend I wanted to do a deca cycle, partly for mass, partly to help with the joints. My overall goals are only about 10-15 lbs lean mass over 8 weeks. I want to avoid deca dick at all costs. And speaking of cost, that is a factor too. Liquidex is already on hand, as well as nolva's, and enough D-Bol for 10 mg/day for 6 weeks.

So what cycle am I looking at here. I'm thinking the deca should be run around 300mg/week.

Deca at 300 every 5 days, with a front load of 2x amount on day 1
Test Prop - 100 mg EOD

With the Prop - no need to kick start with the d-bol, but if you wanted to, 20mg day for 3 weeks.

 

[frorider6]

Deca at 300 every 5 days, with a front load of 2x amount on day 1
Test Prop - 100 mg EOD

With the Prop - no need to kick start with the d-bol, but if you wanted to, 20mg day for 3 weeks.

Corn, sounds like a good plan. I had a lot of problems with D-Bol at 35mg/day so I don't think I'll ever run them again above 10-15, if ever. And why the Test Prop? What makes it better than the other tests?

What about the Liquidex? Same .25mg/day stategy? And Clomid would begin when, 2 or 3 weeks after last shot?


Damn Anal, I'm just sidetracking and taking over your thread. Both with talk of Florida and questions about a cycle of my own. Sorry about that.

 

[Bull69]

28 pounds in 6 weeks.?? Ya think LOL!

Corn,
It has actually been 8 weeks since I have been on my cycle, and while I am retaining some water, I am definitely not noticeably bloated. I am currently taking:
600 EQ
50 ed Winny
75 ed Fina
450 Test

 

[The Shadow]

Corn, sounds like a good plan. I had a lot of problems with D-Bol at 35mg/day so I don't think I'll ever run them again above 10-15, if ever. And why the Test Prop? What makes it better than the other tests?

What about the Liquidex? Same .25mg/day stategy? And Clomid would begin when, 2 or 3 weeks after last shot?


Damn Anal, I'm just sidetracking and taking over your thread. Both with talk of Florida and questions about a cycle of my own. Sorry about that.

Prop hits the system faster and less bloat.

.25 liquidex will be fine.

Clomid therapy 1.5-2 weeks after last Deca shot.

 

[The Shadow]

Corn,
It has actually been 8 weeks since I have been on my cycle, and while I am retaining some water, I am definitely not noticeably bloated. I am currently taking:
600 EQ
50 ed Winny
75 ed Fina
450 Test

Hehehe..j/k

That's a great stack. I love Eq and hate Deca.

 

[frorider6]

Hehehe..j/k

That's a great stack. I love Eq and hate Deca.

Why don't you like deca? Everything I've read says it's one of the "Roids of the Gods".

 

[The Shadow]

Why don't you like deca? Everything I've read says it's one of the "Roids of the Gods".

I personally don't do well on it. I get better growth/strength from EQ. But that is just me. My w/o partner thinks EQ is crap.

I love Eq for two main reasons:

Vascularity
Increase in appetite

 

[Big Buck]

Why don't you like deca? Everything I've read says it's one of the "Roids of the Gods".

You must be reading all of 2Thick's posts...LOL

 

[Bull69]

I have used deca in almost every cycle I have done in the past. After a four year break from roids, I did a cycle with deca a year ago. My current cycle with EQ has by far been the best with size and strength gains, but best of all no deca dick!!!!

 

[The Shadow]

I have used deca in almost every cycle I have done in the past. After a four year break from roids, I did a cycle with deca a year ago. My current cycle with EQ has by far been the best with size and strength gains, but best of all no deca dick!!!!

WORD!!

My .02 - Deca is one of the most over-rated supps out there.

For me anyway.

 

[frorider6]

Isn't eq more for vasularity and hardness? And isn't it one of the more expensive roids out there? The appetite thing is a damn strong arguement for me since I struggle a bit with mine.

Even though I'm new to all this and have only done one cycle, I have to say that sust seemed awfully overhyped to me.

 

[AAP]

Despite all the deca I have, I am using EQ for my first cycle to keep my vascularity intact. I will use the deca in my second cycle along with test and GH.

Deca can be done without test, just stock up on the proviron. I don't think liquidex is going to be effective deca at all.

 

[AAP]

I think deca is often over priced and way more expensive than EQ, it is also one of the most counterfeited ones as well.

 

[frorider6]

How are the weight gains with EQ? I'm not looking for those quick massive weight gains that other people are looking for. I want quality vascular muscle. I'm in this for the long run. And I want to avoid all those, "Damn you blew up quick, what are you taking?" questions.

Since I don't have a price sheet handy, what would be the cost of a moderate 8 week EQ cycle. Would I have to stack it with anything?

 

[HappyScrappy]

*cough*fina*cough*

 

[Bull69]

Fror,

8 weeks at 600mg/week would cost around 250, for you goals I would stack it with winny or fina. Maybe throw in some test.

 

[frorider6]

Fina makes me nervous, with all the prep steps and all. I'd be afraid of fucking something up and either ruining the batch or making it unsterile. The ed injections would suck too, but not so much as having to tell my girlfriend about it.

I did just go to www.anabolicreview.com and read about EQ. It seems that it's something I should consider.

Hey Bull, that 600mg/week seems a bit high. At least for someone with my goals. I think I'd want to cut that in half, especially if I stacked it with something.

 

[HappyScrappy]

do EQ at 400-600 and test anything at 400 or so and you are fine.

no need to get crazy doses - and EQ is nice stuff, you will like the pumps.

neither of those stay in your system like deca does - I had trouble recovering as easily from deca - some have probs with it, others not

 

[The Shadow]

Fina makes me nervous, with all the prep steps and all. I'd be afraid of fucking something up and either ruining the batch or making it unsterile. The ed injections would suck too, but not so much as having to tell my girlfriend about it.

I did just go to www.anabolicreview.com and read about EQ. It seems that it's something I should consider.

Hey Bull, that 600mg/week seems a bit high. At least for someone with my goals. I think I'd want to cut that in half, especially if I stacked it with something.

Fro:

EQ at 300 mg every 5 days
Test Prop at 100 mg EOD
Anavar at 40 mg ED

 

[HappyScrappy]

Test Prop at 100 mg EOD

while I love test prop - I don't mind injecting frequently - but he just said he was out on fina - so it would seem the EOD is just as bad?

 

[Bull69]

Fror,

Ask around, but I really do not think that the 600mg of EQ is that high at all. It does not have the androgenic effects of other types of AS.

As far as fina goes, the kit makes it super simple, and I think it is far superior to Winny. Hell if you wanted, I would convert it for you.

 

[HappyScrappy]

I'm not on anything right now and won't be for awhile - but when I do use - I've decided nothing but fina and test prop for me... well, liquidex too.

those two together... damn. never need anything else personally - just perfect - zero sides, crazy strength, and get cut up.
love it.

 

[The Shadow]

while I love test prop - I don't mind injecting frequently - but he just said he was out on fina - so it would seem the EOD is just as bad?

Yes.

I felt via his respnose that he was worried about the conversion.

Hey it's Scrappy proof. Should be good for any idiot.

 

[HappyScrappy]

Yes.

I felt via his respnose that he was worried about the conversion.

Hey it's Scrappy proof. Should be good for any idiot.

LOL - true enough. if I can do it, then anyone can. I think that is the "retarded monkey hyptohesis" or something

 

[The Shadow]

"hyptohesis" or something

Seems like it.

 

[HappyScrappy]

exactly.

I'm gonna go punch myself in the genitals now

 

[The Shadow]

LOL!!

 

[frorider6]

Well, if a retarded monkey can do it, maybe I'll consider it. Thanks for the info guys.

 

[dawookie]

Actually, I talked with my girl about this last night. My main goal is to learn how to surf.

If you want to learn how to Surf, Try somewhere besides Florida... The farther north you go the better the waves, and the ocean is flat mostly up to Jupiter.. Cocoa Beach, Sebastian, Ft. Pierce are the better surfing areas in FL but they aren't around any good party towns..

 

[AAP]

If you want to learn how to Surf, Try somewhere besides Florida... The farther north you go the better the waves, and the ocean is flat mostly up to Jupiter.. Cocoa Beach, Sebastian, Ft. Pierce are the better surfing areas in FL but they aren't around any good party towns..

True True. But the water is always so nasty green and brown. Down here it is aqua blue and clear.