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i want a speed stack...

dude..... I remember when speed stacks had ephedrine in them! They were the shit!

Now they have caffeine, threombine, and synephrine......

and yes, ABB does make them....and they are tasty as hell!
 
artrius said:
well i can't use amphetamines due to drug testing, that's why :(

I know about your situation.......don't refresh me.

You can use anything if you're willing to risk random urinalysis.

They could test you for AAS if they wanted, they'd have to have suspicion though...



DIV
 
DIVISION said:
I know about your situation.......don't refresh me.

You can use anything if you're willing to risk random urinalysis.

They could test you for AAS if they wanted, they'd have to have suspicion though...

DIV

as frequently as I get meat-watched, no thanks, I'd be caught in a week. The navy has gotten crazy about drug testing, ESPECIALLY shore commands, which I'm at right now.
 
artrius said:
as frequently as I get meat-watched, no thanks, I'd be caught in a week. The navy has gotten crazy about drug testing, ESPECIALLY shore commands, which I'm at right now.
yep they're gettin crazy with the randoms ,part of the downsizing though
 
artrius said:
as frequently as I get meat-watched, no thanks, I'd be caught in a week. The navy has gotten crazy about drug testing, ESPECIALLY shore commands, which I'm at right now.

I figured as much. The Army and Marines don't give a shit, they'd probably rather have you on AAS if it makes you a better conditioned soldier/marine.

In the Army it's kind of a hushhush thing....alot of people are on AAS, they just don't publicize the shit and there's no reason to test them for it.

As long as your PT is tight you're basically a God.





DIV
 
hotzie said:
yep they're gettin crazy with the randoms ,part of the downsizing though

you know, that's probably right. that's why they're cutting the e-5 high year tenure down to 10 years, that's why they've implemented the three strikes and your out PT plan, that's why they've allowed people to get out early, if they are within a certain time frame of their extension (i think)....

DIVISION said:
I figured as much. The Army and Marines don't give a shit, they'd probably rather have you on AAS if it makes you a better conditioned soldier/marine.

In the Army it's kind of a hushhush thing....alot of people are on AAS, they just don't publicize the shit and there's no reason to test them for it.

As long as your PT is tight you're basically a God.

DIV

god I wish it were like that in the navy.... they don't test for roids in the navy, but everything else they do.

bodybuilders need to anonymously fight back against steroids being illegal... i wonder what would happen if people started posting up fliers and posters that are pro-steroid all across the country? And maybe people would then understand that they would be better off legal, if the arguement was done right....... IMHO....
 
artrius said:
bodybuilders need to anonymously fight back against steroids being illegal... i wonder what would happen if people started posting up fliers and posters that are pro-steroid all across the country? And maybe people would then understand that they would be better off legal, if the arguement was done right....... IMHO....

lol yeah right.
very very small niche, fliers aren't going to do dick when 99.99% of the pop. don't give a fuck
 
Gambino said:
lol yeah right.
very very small niche, fliers aren't going to do dick when 99.99% of the pop. don't give a fuck

i guess it would be hard to fight the goddamned commie pinko fuckin media :rainbow:
 
artrius said:
i guess it would be hard to fight the goddamned commie pinko fuckin media :rainbow:

I'm gonna have to go with another lol here. Do you really think legalized aas would benefit the general population??
 
Gambino said:
I'm gonna have to go with another lol here. Do you really think legalized aas would benefit the general population??

yup. in the form of taxes and quality control. There would be controls over it, much like alcohol, but tighter. I'm not going to get into a dissortation about this, but there are PLENTY of ways for the government to milk this for all its worth. Don't forget, it would hurt the black market, even if it is a minor impact. Oh yea, law enforcement could then focus on REAL crime. Just MHO.
 
artrius said:
yup. in the form of taxes and quality control. There would be controls over it, much like alcohol, but tighter. I'm not going to get into a dissortation about this, but there are PLENTY of ways for the government to milk this for all its worth. Don't forget, it would hurt the black market, even if it is a minor impact. Oh yea, law enforcement could then focus on REAL crime. Just MHO.

I just don't see it happening. Not a sizeable % of the pop. gives a fuck
 
artrius said:
I don't know the details of the lift on the ephedrine ban... but I would think it could happen...


thr ban HAS been lifted.....meaning a sup company may begin production at any time...the reality is that it will never happen as there is not an insurance company that would cover any supp company in the production of a formerly banned sutstance.
 
The Shadow said:
thr ban HAS been lifted.....meaning a sup company may begin production at any time...the reality is that it will never happen as there is not an insurance company that would cover any supp company in the production of a formerly banned sutstance.
yews a lyer
 
juicedmohawk said:
just to clarify, are we talking about the ''ephedrine'' products or ephedra? Are you referring to the judge in utah?

litfted the ban on products containing ephedra



Ephedrine hcl is still legal to purchase
 
The Shadow said:
litfted the ban on products containing ephedra



Ephedrine hcl is still legal to purchase

I know that, dilweed, I was wondering if thats what you meant. what's the pka of ephedrine mr. smarty ass? :qt:
 
juicedmohawk said:
I know that, dilweed, I was wondering if thats what you meant. what's the pka of ephedrine mr. smarty ass? :qt:


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