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I should have kept my mouth shut

Bozwell

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About 2 months ago I confessed to using aas to a couple of my friends and guess what? no they didnt slag me off they wanted to try them .both work out regular at the same gym as me and there both in good health with no major drug or alcohol issuses so far all is good I told them to take 1 ml of sust e5d for 8 weeks with jenetics pct (it worked for me on my first cycle)
so far the have been on for 4 weeks one is up 17 lbs and the other 12lbs with good streanth gainsbut my problem is this I have another friend who has been working out for only a couple of months and is eger to try aas but he has an overactive thyriod gland and suffers quite a lot from it with wieght loss, mood swing, sweats and SHORT TEMPER I have told him to get some blood work done first but he says he cant afford it my question is this
what type of aas should my freind try for his first run ,dose the test is best still apply in this situation or should he try somthing milder like nandrolone.
var and primo are out of his price range if i dont give him advice he will do it anyway but if I had kept my mouth shut I wouldnt have this problem
cheers and lots of k to those who can help
freinds stats
6foot 3inch
23 years old
11 stone
goals -to put on weight
been training for 3 months or so
 
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Bozwell said:
About 2 months ago I confessed to using aas to a couple of my friends and guess what? no they didnt slag me off they wanted to try them .both work out regular at the same gym as me and there both in good health with no major drug or alcohol issuses so far all is good I told them to take 1 ml of sust e5d for 8 weeks with jenetics pct (it worked for me on my first cycle)
so far the have been on for 4 weeks one is up 17 lbs and the other 12lbs with good streanth gainsbut my problem is this I have another friend who has been working out for only a couple of months and is eger to try aas but he has an overactive thyriod gland and suffers quite a lot from it with wieght loss, mood swing, sweats and SHORT TEMPER I have told him to get some blood work done first but he says he cant afford it my question is this
what type of aas should my freind try for his first run ,dose the test is best still apply in this situation or should he try somthing milder like nandrolone.
var and primo are out of his price range if i dont give him advice he will do it anyway but if I had kept my mouth shut I wouldnt have this problem
cheers and lots of k to those who can help
freinds stats
6foot 3inch
23 years old
11 stone
goals -to put on weight
been training for 3 months or so



friends dont let friends do Steroids :rainbow:
 
Hes been training for 3 months? - then no roids period. Why start using when you dont even know how serious he is about lifting. At lot of people say you should be lifting naturally for a few years before you even try steroids, plus with health complication it seems retarded to start a cycle
 
nydj66 said:
I'm not sure what gave you the impression, but nandrolone is definitely not a mild steroid.

Deca is about as "mild" as the bitch in your avatar, nugga!

Ragged and Rough........




DIV
 
well, yes, you should have kept your mouth shut! lol.. I too get caught up in it sometimes and talk a little too openly about my usage..but, as far as your friend goes, tell him as long as he has his "thyroid" condition - no roids. and also tell him, if he can't afford to get blood tests, then he can't afford roids, plain and simple. And also tell him, after he's been working out for a year or 2, then come and talk to ya. If he still bugs ya, give division his address and let division take care of your problem.. lol
 
sparetire said:
If he still bugs ya, give division his address and let division take care of your problem.. lol

I guess I could roll him in to oncoming traffic...:dodgy:

Depends on my mood....






DIV
 
get some PureCEE caps. Put them in a shady looking perscription bottle or something, and tell it's ****obolan or ****abol, or whatever. seriously. he'll probably get a placebo effect off of it, and it'll encourage him to work hard, without putting him or you in a bad spot.
 
ridethesnake said:
get some PureCEE caps. Put them in a shady looking perscription bottle or something, and tell it's ****obolan or ****abol, or whatever. seriously. he'll probably get a placebo effect off of it, and it'll encourage him to work hard, without putting him or you in a bad spot.
Thats the best repley so far ;)
 
nydj66 said:
I'm not sure what gave you the impression, but nandrolone is definitely not a mild steroid.
from what I have read but never used nandrolone is SUPPOSED to be very mild on the body like primo
 
Your buddy shouldn't be taking anything. He has no knowledge of how any of this stuff works. He can still gain a lot just by eating properly and working out religiously.
 
Christianlifter said:
Hey Dude I see a lot of your posts..forgive my ignorance but whats a "nugga"?

lol... this of what black people call other black people... white people shouldn't say it (around black people) Ni**a... its just used that way sometimes..
 
slat1 said:
Your buddy shouldn't be taking anything. He has no knowledge of how any of this stuff works. He can still gain a lot just by eating properly and working out religiously.
I have told him this till Im blue im face so much so it piss's me of how stubbern he his about doing it
all he says is ,well youve done them and youre alright or whats the point of waiting till I get to my limet if Im going to to them one day anyway
Ive explained to him how steroids work and there possable side effects
I know my mate shouldent be doing it but I dont want him fucking himself up
that is why I have asked this question
 
I would just say "Look. You obviously know nothing about how this stuff works. If you did you wouldn't be giving me such a hard time. If you want to do them so bad find them someplace else".
Someone that is as irresponsible as that guy is the same person who will roll over and sell you out if he gets in trouble!
 
slat1 said:
I would just say "Look. You obviously know nothing about how this stuff works. If you did you wouldn't be giving me such a hard time. If you want to do them so bad find them someplace else".
Someone that is as irresponsible as that guy is the same person who will roll over and sell you out if he gets in trouble!
That is what I was going to to after the 1oooth time I told him ,just tell him to get on with it and have nothing to do with it but I dont want him to fuck up and mess him self up
but it looks like he may have to live and learn
 
ridethesnake said:
get some PureCEE caps. Put them in a shady looking perscription bottle or something, and tell it's ****obolan or ****abol, or whatever. seriously. he'll probably get a placebo effect off of it, and it'll encourage him to work hard, without putting him or you in a bad spot.

i dont know about your friendships but i dont lie to my friends or sell them shit knowing its not real!! even if it is for a good reason.. get balls and tell him the truth
 
nutsnack said:
i dont know about your friendships but i dont lie to my friends or sell them shit knowing its not real!! even if it is for a good reason.. get balls and tell him the truth
Iv told him not to do it all it get is you either help me do it or il do it myself :mad:
 
I had a friend like that. He couldnt even bench his own body weight "140", and wanted to run a cycle. I told him not to for a while, and he went ahead and got some overpriced dbol from a guy at my gym. He ran 30 to 35mg/day on off days and 40 to 50mg/ day on days that he worked out. He ran this for 6 weeks. I gave him some nolva for pct. The guy who sold him the dbol didnt mention it.

Overall it worked out pretty well. He got his diet down, stopped drinking so much, gained alot of confidence in and out of the gym. He gained 17.2 pounds before pct. He's kept about 13 of it so far. Stregnth improved alot. His rep weight is now more than he weighs, and his max bench is up about 50 pounds.

I really think that it helped him get on track. He was slacking, not eating right and getting depressed before he took anything. Now he's happy He doesnt look like a little girl anymore.
 
Bozwell said:
I have told him this till Im blue im face so much so it piss's me of how stubbern he his about doing it
all he says is ,well youve done them and youre alright or whats the point of waiting till I get to my limet if Im going to to them one day anyway
Ive explained to him how steroids work and there possable side effects
I know my mate shouldent be doing it but I dont want him fucking himself up
that is why I have asked this question

Don't be a bitch, tell him, "NO" and if he continues bothering you just ignore him.
 
This is how I got started on AS....a workout friend of mine introduced me to the game.
If you are truly concerened about his health, then just say NO. If he keeps botherign you then make up some BS lie and say that your source got busted?

Eitherway, he should be old enought o make his own desicions, if he wants to experiment with AS, let him, but let him find his own gear.
 
Bozwell said:
from what I have read but never used nandrolone is SUPPOSED to be very mild on the body like primo

nope.. deca is one of the hardest shutdowns to your hpta/testicle system. for my body it is actually a better bulker than test. it is no way a mild steroid. it may not be as androgenic, but it is a good anabolic compound and i :heart: it.
 
Christianlifter said:
Hey Dude I see a lot of your posts..forgive my ignorance but whats a "nugga"?

Now that's classic! ;)

Can I get a Hail Mary for that?

They say Jesus is a kind man, but he should understand times in this crimeland. Do what you gotta do but know you gotta change, try to find a way to make it out the game! :( I leave this and hope God see my heart is pure. Is heaven just another door? I leave this and hope God see my heart is pure. Is heaven just another door?....





DIV
 
Bozwell said:
Thats the best repley so far ;)

I agree great response!!!!! I also like the idea of sending him to division for some of those one liners. That will probably discourage him. :worried:

But honestly there's no way he should be taking AAS. He hasn't even reached his potential naturally along with his thyroid problem "it just doesn't make sense".
 
Slydog said:
I agree great response!!!!! I also like the idea of sending him to division for some of those one liners. That will probably discourage him. :worried:

What are you saying SlyDoggie? :confused:

Do my one-liners really shut kids down?




DIV
 
sparetire said:
well, yes, you should have kept your mouth shut! lol.. I too get caught up in it sometimes and talk a little too openly about my usage..but, as far as your friend goes, tell him as long as he has his "thyroid" condition - no roids. and also tell him, if he can't afford to get blood tests, then he can't afford roids, plain and simple. And also tell him, after he's been working out for a year or 2, then come and talk to ya. If he still bugs ya, give division his address and let division take care of your problem.. lol

This is good advice...tell your friend to follow it.
 
DIVISION said:
I thought Deca shut kids down worse than Tren.....

BabyTitan......preach the truth! :o




DIV
i dont think so nigga.. the reason deca may be a 'harder shut down' to some is because deca is run for a longer time, meaning you are shut down longer and may have a harder recovery.
but if they are run about the same time, i've always heard that tren is the hardest shut down ....
 
Damn thats pretty bad I was 140lbs when I was 13 years old lol!!! See when you give someone gear with only working out for about few months even a year and they take gear they think the only way to grow is by using gear and thats totally wrong. I just did my first cycle ever at age 22 and I started at 235lbs with 14% body fat naturally I already looked like I did juice!! because I train naturally since age of 13. But I would tell your friend the truth and if he go ahead and does himself let him live and learn!. This is the type of attitude that has gotten the media to blow up steroid talk and all these non sense
Kids like your friend1



sherpa1 said:
I had a friend like that. He couldnt even bench his own body weight "140", and wanted to run a cycle. I told him not to for a while, and he went ahead and got some overpriced dbol from a guy at my gym. He ran 30 to 35mg/day on off days and 40 to 50mg/ day on days that he worked out. He ran this for 6 weeks. I gave him some nolva for pct. The guy who sold him the dbol didnt mention it.

Overall it worked out pretty well. He got his diet down, stopped drinking so much, gained alot of confidence in and out of the gym. He gained 17.2 pounds before pct. He's kept about 13 of it so far. Stregnth improved alot. His rep weight is now more than he weighs, and his max bench is up about 50 pounds.

I really think that it helped him get on track. He was slacking, not eating right and getting depressed before he took anything. Now he's happy He doesnt look like a little girl anymore.
 
LVTitan said:
i dont think so nigga.. the reason deca may be a 'harder shut down' to some is because deca is run for a longer time, meaning you are shut down longer and may have a harder recovery.
but if they are run about the same time, i've always heard that tren is the hardest shut down ....

I'll take your word, babyTita....

Haven't run Tren yet.....but it sounds like a nice rough drug.....something that will keep me focused and raw.

How long have you run it and what did you think about it?




DIV
 
Fill some empty vials with regular sterilized seed oil. Then let him go at it. I'm telling you he will gain about 10 pounds. I hate to admit it but I've seen it happen before.
 
looks like its going to be one of thoses live and learn journeys for him ,Ive told him about pct and how important it is and if he uses orals to take milk thistle but other than that I cant do anything else .theres no changing his mind,Ive even told him he could die but he dosent belive me (yes I have some fucked up mates :p )cheers to those who have given there views ,most of wihch are the same as my own he should not do it.I had to see if there was a some way to go about it but it seems not and the uk is a touch far for division to travel to try his methods of talking him to sense ;)
 
Watson said:
Fill some empty vials with regular sterilized seed oil. Then let him go at it. I'm telling you he will gain about 10 pounds. I hate to admit it but I've seen it happen before.

i was just about to say the same thing!!! order some sterile oil and give it to him in one of your vials...he'll have a blast on
Division's new Gear!!!
http://www.darkmantis.com/vial.jpg
 
DIVISION said:
I'll take your word, babyTita....

Haven't run Tren yet.....but it sounds like a nice rough drug.....something that will keep me focused and raw.

How long have you run it and what did you think about it?




DIV
i have not run it yet myself my new lab owner friend. i was thinking of doing a cycle of tren and nuggabol next... :)

but seriously , i have studied a lot but have not used tren yet, since it is very androgenic i am going to wait till an accutane cycle because i am afraid it will make my back/arms break out since test and primo do that to me...
 
LVTitan said:
i have not run it yet myself my new lab owner friend. i was thinking of doing a cycle of tren and nuggabol next... :)

but seriously , i have studied a lot but have not used tren yet, since it is very androgenic i am going to wait till an accutane cycle because i am afraid it will make my back/arms break out since test and primo do that to me...

You know what you might want to try are those prescription strength acne scrubs. I get acne on my shoulders when I'm on cycle and my doc prescribed that, just put it on before a shower and scrub it off.....use it twice daily.



DIV
 
If he is going to Try anything and you cant stop him , Get him on some Tbol For 4 weeks Then nova for pct :>
Im not saying he should do juice , But alot of times you just cant stop people :)
 
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