I P tested by Health Canada & A#1

[jaybuilt]

ulter

couldnt agree with you more about batch inconsistency its a well known problem but what im saying those that constantly bash him or should i say them we all know its a company and not just one guy must have something to gain otherwise why keep talking shit and whining to others i know for a fact there are a couples bros on here that would gain financially if ip went out of biz and tell me this how is it you seem to know its a bathroom lab? i mean have you actually been over there to see it? cuz i have didnt look like a bathroom to me anyways
beleive me when i say this in all underground black market scenarios it always comes down to this.............

Let The Buyer Beware
peace

 

[Ulter]

Because I read the customs report that was filed about his operation and read the discription of the conditions he make the AS under. A friend of mine Emailed it to me and asked me if I knew who the report was talking about. When I read it I knew right away who it was. I can't post it and I truly don't even have it anymore. So you can believe or not believe me and leave it at that. You guys have to understand that "we the vets" tell you guys to stay away from things because we are trying to do the right thing by you not profit from it. That's the basic concept here isn't it? Tell the next guy what you know to keep the knowledge flowing.

 

[jaybuilt]

ulter i think maybe you should pm me sometime bout that report if i think its the same one i know bout about i can tell you bout it word for word anyways what makes you a vet man? is it cuz you have over 3000 posts? or is it cuz you are actually in the game hardcore and can apply first hand experience ? or is it cuz you are like the geeks here with 300 posts that read and read and read but never apply what knowledge they have gained from these boards and i agree knowledge is power
and as for your friends e2 and warlobo i have no clue who they are i never mentioned them im merley stating facts that i know of

 

[FrankRizzo]

I wanna jump back in here on a serious note and say that I goof off a bit on here at times and stir the pot as I am reading/learning/teaching. I would also like to reiterate what Jay posted in another post....I too have been very disappointed in Tttokkyo stuff and the old man has not let me down. I just go on what I know.

I have been using and researching AS for 4 + years and know my shit quite well. I am not a very notorious member on here, and I certainly did not mean to step out of line or on anyone's toes. It was purely in jest.

 

[jaybuilt]

bump for ulter

 

[Kakarrot]

ulter i think maybe you should pm me sometime bout that report if i think its the same one i know bout about i can tell you bout it word for word anyways what makes you a vet man? is it cuz you have over 3000 posts? or is it cuz you are actually in the game hardcore and can apply first hand experience ? or is it cuz you are like the geeks here with 300 posts that read and read and read but never apply what knowledge they have gained from these boards and i agree knowledge is power
and as for your friends e2 and warlobo i have no clue who they are i never mentioned them im merley stating facts that i know of

LOL, I can tell you trully don't know who Ulter, Warlobo, and E2 are, not geeks by the way.

 

[mrt]

I simply can not understand why some people are sooo happy just because "customs" have tested it and it came out OK? Also why do they get so nervous and aggressive when somebody says anything negative about IP.

Who gives a shit? I for one would never use IP or any backyard lab stuff even if I was paid to do so. If you like IP stuff go ahead and keep using it, that's your decision. Any member here is welcome to express his/her oppinions about a specific brand and its results. Everyone acts differently to AAS and may get different results from different brands. So just let everyone use whatever they like or they believe in. But if you keep acting as IP's lawyers or fanatic followers you make people think that there is a reason behind your posts.

 

[Ulter]

Jaybuilt you're pretty funny.

 

[manny78]

There are 2 main reasons why people dont like IP. Some because they think his stuff his full of shit and others cause they're sources and they're pissed off cause the man sells Organon amps for 3$ to european clients. The thing is, after many years on the boards I know who falls into the second category.....

 

[Slopain]

Lets just deal with facts here, it always gets into "well you sell the stuff" kind of a thing and usually its not the truth - when it is its pretty clear especially to people like ulter, myself, warlobo, e2 and others that have been in the game for years and years.

I looked at the scans and it does show that 3 illegal items were sent and tested. It doesnt show alot of other stuff as well. Its probably a good batch maybe or maybe not, from the scans its not near as clear or VERIFIABLE as a lab test that I can call and confirm.

Two other issues that came as a result of this thread:

someone emailed me saying that customs also tested what was supposed to be test enathate and it was actually propiniate - this letter is being emailed to me as well, so we have one that supposedly is what the label claims and one that is not what the label claims.

Another case is a unfortuante user who has never used any AS products in his life used what was supposed to be IP Anavar for 3 weeks, and is having serious estro/progesro.. related problems and is seeing a doctor who referred him to an endo.. for more tests, I hope he is ok, but here is 3 examples of IP products. Yes one checked out good (giving the benefit of the doubt) then the other 2 which are HIGHLY questionable.

To all those stiff IP backers if you have done 3 cycles or less do you really know if your banging test prop or test enanthate? Would you know? Im not confronting or flaming, but I know from experience it takes many cyclee of different compounds to get a feel for what is doing what. Most of IP users are typically newbies (bottom fishers looking for lowest price) and while that definetly isn't bad in itself they arent the best people to back products as they havent had enough experience to determine if they are 50% dosed or even the correct compound.

These are some things to think about, when I get the other letter I will email it or post it.