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one more thing....
one more thing...before I get hammered for not being big enough to do a cycle...I started out freshman year in college at 135 lbs. with 12" arms and when I learned how to eat and train shot up to 190 with 16.5" arms but a fat 25-30% bodyfat....then leaned up to 155 lbs. with 15" arms and 9% bodyfat. If you knew me and my genetics most people are impressed maybe not you guys...but I thought I was ready to do a cycle after about 3-4 years of training...just my opinion...I will post some pics soon of me throughout the years.
one more thing...before I get hammered for not being big enough to do a cycle...I started out freshman year in college at 135 lbs. with 12" arms and when I learned how to eat and train shot up to 190 with 16.5" arms but a fat 25-30% bodyfat....then leaned up to 155 lbs. with 15" arms and 9% bodyfat. If you knew me and my genetics most people are impressed maybe not you guys...but I thought I was ready to do a cycle after about 3-4 years of training...just my opinion...I will post some pics soon of me throughout the years.
I don't even know what the fuck this is supposed to be?????
2 weeks of ECA
2 weeks of some steroid...thinking of fina and test. cyp., metaformin
2 weeks of clomid and clen
2 weeks of some steroid...thinking of winny and sustanon
2 weeks of clomid and clen
2 weeks of some steroid...thinking of anavar and tren.
2 weeks of clomid and clen
2 weeks of some steroid...thinking of anavar and primo
2 weeks of clomid and clen
2 weeks of some steroid...thinking of anavar only
2 weeks of clomid and clen and HCG
If I were you, and I were determined to use AAS, I would try something like this:
Week 1-4 20mg dbol ed
Week 1-9 400mg test enth/week
Week 10-12 100mg test prop eod
PCT
3 days after last shot of prop:
HCG 1000 IU eod for 10 days (5000IU total) If needed for testicular atrophy
Week 13-17 20mg nolva ed
Week 13-14 .5mg anastrazole eod
Avena/and or Maca
Week 12-18 10g creatine/day
Week 13-14 clen pyramid w taurine
Week 17-18 clen pyramid w taurine
Keep in mind that diet and training is more important than the above listed substances in obtaining your goals.
2 weeks of ECA
2 weeks of some steroid...thinking of fina and test. cyp., metaformin
2 weeks of clomid and clen
2 weeks of some steroid...thinking of winny and sustanon
2 weeks of clomid and clen
2 weeks of some steroid...thinking of anavar and tren.
2 weeks of clomid and clen
2 weeks of some steroid...thinking of anavar and primo
2 weeks of clomid and clen
2 weeks of some steroid...thinking of anavar only
2 weeks of clomid and clen and HCG
If I were you, and I were determined to use AAS, I would try something like this:
Week 1-4 20mg dbol ed
Week 1-9 400mg test enth/week
Week 10-12 100mg test prop eod
PCT
3 days after last shot of prop:
HCG 1000 IU eod for 10 days (5000IU total) If needed for testicular atrophy
Week 13-17 20mg nolva ed
Week 13-14 .5mg anastrazole eod
Avena/and or Maca
Week 12-18 10g creatine/day
Week 13-14 clen pyramid w taurine
Week 17-18 clen pyramid w taurine
Keep in mind that diet and training is more important than the above listed substances in obtaining your goals.
thanks jubei
thanks man...for giving advice...now my main goal is to lean up on this cycle...seems to me that the gear you recommend would have a tendency to raise bodyfat due to the increased estrogen...is this dumb to say? I always thought that fina..with a mix of some test...winny and anavar would be good for leaning up...also I know I am gettin flamed hard for the layout...but why is it wrong...also i know i did not post my dosage on the cycle...was going to wait till I read and became clear as too what I will do with the cycle...is a gram or more of gear a week too much? I always had the impression that if say you do 300 gms you first cycle you would need more like 500 gms the next because receptor site wore out...is this true...and yes i am asking a butt load of questions because I always read conflicting opionions on these things. thanks again man for advice and look forward to more of it.
thanks man...for giving advice...now my main goal is to lean up on this cycle...seems to me that the gear you recommend would have a tendency to raise bodyfat due to the increased estrogen...is this dumb to say? I always thought that fina..with a mix of some test...winny and anavar would be good for leaning up...also I know I am gettin flamed hard for the layout...but why is it wrong...also i know i did not post my dosage on the cycle...was going to wait till I read and became clear as too what I will do with the cycle...is a gram or more of gear a week too much? I always had the impression that if say you do 300 gms you first cycle you would need more like 500 gms the next because receptor site wore out...is this true...and yes i am asking a butt load of questions because I always read conflicting opionions on these things. thanks again man for advice and look forward to more of it.
There is no 1 or 2 or 5 things wrong with your first cycle. The whole thing is garbage. I would have to nominate it for worst cycle of the year if it were in my power to do so.
Estrogen can easily be controlled by l-dex/famera/aromasin and some degree nolvadex. Fina and winny is a great combo for losing fat, but you can easily gain muscle mass and lose fat with test/dbol. Even without l-dexor famera, you won't gain fat if your diet and training are in check.
Estrogen can easily be controlled by l-dex/famera/aromasin and some degree nolvadex. Fina and winny is a great combo for losing fat, but you can easily gain muscle mass and lose fat with test/dbol. Even without l-dexor famera, you won't gain fat if your diet and training are in check.
thanks Dial_tone
Dial_tone - man I did not even know that dude...I am sorry...interesting...that would make since...and after reading what I would have to do ...I must agree that I should just do a more drawn out longer cycle of 8-12 weeks...correct?..also if you got any reading info on the net drop me some sites love to read...thanks again man...and karma will start being rewarded at the end of the day folks...people I learn the most from get the most...thanks again.....Oh yeah!!! got a question...AS like anavar are not as harsh as shuttind down natural test levels...i know everything will shut down your natural levels to some degree but can anavar be taken for longer periods of time?
Dial_tone - man I did not even know that dude...I am sorry...interesting...that would make since...and after reading what I would have to do ...I must agree that I should just do a more drawn out longer cycle of 8-12 weeks...correct?..also if you got any reading info on the net drop me some sites love to read...thanks again man...and karma will start being rewarded at the end of the day folks...people I learn the most from get the most...thanks again.....Oh yeah!!! got a question...AS like anavar are not as harsh as shuttind down natural test levels...i know everything will shut down your natural levels to some degree but can anavar be taken for longer periods of time?
sorry...
this is where I got the idea apparently I did not read throughly...actually it had been a while since i had read the article...should have gone back and done the research before posted....anyways here is where I got the idea..
http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/pharmacology/steroid-case-study-01.htm
and also this article
http://t-mag.com/html/18stero.html
this is where I got the idea apparently I did not read throughly...actually it had been a while since i had read the article...should have gone back and done the research before posted....anyways here is where I got the idea..
http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/pharmacology/steroid-case-study-01.htm
and also this article
http://t-mag.com/html/18stero.html
hisswoleness
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yea and you mentioned sustanon for one of those "somethings" don't waste your time doing sustanon for 2 or 3 weeks man....pick something that will kick in quicker...ie. propinate or suspension
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