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bigbolla23

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im just getting out of high school and i've been playing football and weight training for 4 years............. i havn't got a decent training schedule yet in order to add enhancers to my schedules i've just been working out
bench- 380lbs
squat- 450lbs
clean- 320lbs
incline- 350lbs
(all natural)
i want to get a leaner cutter look so what should i take
 
Man, you are still very young to be starting juice bro, but no matter what i or others say you are probably gonna do it anyways or you wouldn't be here

at least you are here asking questions before jumping into something.....also, those are some VERY impressive numbers there man. What is your height, weight and bodyfat before we go any further
 
Well bro I honestly think at this point in your life you still have growing to do, so keep in mind your growth will be stunted FOREVER! Anyways you have a mind of your own and will make your own choices... with that in mind do Testosterone E. for 8 weeks at 500mg/week. Make sure you use nolvadex and clomid for pct. May need to use nolvadex throughout depending on gyno issues.
 
Obviously-Don't take roids. Here's some additional advice free of charge:

Don't eat yellow snow.

Don't drink and drive.

Never trust a girl that cheated on her bf w/ you(if she'll do it w/ you-she'll do it to you)

Wear a condom.

Pay your bills on time.

Don't fuck girls that you work with=drama(don't get your meat where you make your bread)

Same goes for neighbors-don't bang them=drama(don't shit too close to the house)

Never spend money on girls until after they fuck you.

If a girl doesn't like you working out, or anything else you enjoy-dump that bitch.

If a girl has mostly guy friends and no girlfriends she's probably psycho.

Pay attention to how a girl treats your waitress on a date-in 6 months she'll be treating you the same way.

If a girl's mom is fat, most likely she'll be fat someday too.

and finally, don't take roids-you're too young.
 
Ulter said:
Stay away from steroids.


well we both know we can scream that at him all we want to, but if he's got it in his mind to do them then we can at least help him do them right.......if he comes with legitimate questions we must give him legitimate answers!

i started at 20 and i was determined to no matter what anyone told me, and i did
 
BigCracker said:
Obviously-Don't take roids. Here's some additional advice free of charge:

Don't eat yellow snow.

Don't drink and drive.

Never trust a girl that cheated on her bf w/ you(if she'll do it w/ you-she'll do it to you)

Wear a condom.

Pay your bills on time.

Don't fuck girls that you work with=drama(don't get your meat where you make your bread)

Same goes for neighbors-don't bang them=drama(don't shit too close to the house)

Never spend money on girls until after they fuck you.

If a girl doesn't like you working out, or anything else you enjoy-dump that bitch.

If a girl has mostly guy friends and no girlfriends she's probably psycho.

Pay attention to how a girl treats your waitress on a date-in 6 months she'll be treating you the same way.

If a girl's mom is fat, most likely she'll be fat someday too.

and finally, don't take roids-you're too young.

again, he's got some strength, and most likely some size to be that strong, so he's probably more ready than some of these 5'10" guys weighing 175 on here starting to juice

and again, he's most likely going to do this rather we tell him he's too young or not
 
You lift very heavy....want to get leaner you do not need to TAKE anything! Stay natural! Do more reps, less weight one day a week, do 2 days of cardio (30 mins) and eat clean. The only way to get lean and cut is by eating clean!
 
drrman said:
again, he's got some strength, and most likely some size to be that strong, so he's probably more ready than some of these 5'10" guys weighing 175 on here starting to juice

and again, he's most likely going to do this rather we tell him he's too young or not


OK, start off with 1000 mgs/test wk

75 mgs of tren EOD

100mgs A-50 ED

8 iu's GH ED plus post workout insulin.

Do this cycle for 10 yrs, then check back with us for PCT.
 
OK, start off with 1000 mgs/test wk

75 mgs of tren EOD

100mgs A-50 ED

8 iu's GH ED plus post workout insulin.

Do this cycle for 10 yrs, then check back with us for PCT.

why do you have to be a ass hole? we were ALL newbies at once and at least hes asking before instead of jumping into shit like alot of us did
 
BigCracker said:
OK, start off with 1000 mgs/test wk

75 mgs of tren EOD

100mgs A-50 ED

8 iu's GH ED plus post workout insulin.

Do this cycle for 10 yrs, then check back with us for PCT.



WOW>........this is typical for you cracker.....i like you man, but most if not all of your posts are nothing but bullshit jokes that bring nothing usefull but some laughs to the topic at hand......if you have no advice or useful comments then just stay off some of the serious threads

There is no need for all that...... also if you are trying to be a smart ass to me for offering to help him then just come out and say it.........

you tell my why we should just NOT help a guy that is going to do something anyways....might as well help him instead of letting him hurt himself by doing it without knowledge
 
BigCracker said:
Obviously-Don't take roids. Here's some additional advice free of charge:

Don't eat yellow snow.

Don't drink and drive.

Never trust a girl that cheated on her bf w/ you(if she'll do it w/ you-she'll do it to you)

Wear a condom.

Pay your bills on time.

Don't fuck girls that you work with=drama(don't get your meat where you make your bread)

Same goes for neighbors-don't bang them=drama(don't shit too close to the house)

Never spend money on girls until after they fuck you.

If a girl doesn't like you working out, or anything else you enjoy-dump that bitch.

If a girl has mostly guy friends and no girlfriends she's probably psycho.

Pay attention to how a girl treats your waitress on a date-in 6 months she'll be treating you the same way.

If a girl's mom is fat, most likely she'll be fat someday too.

and finally, don't take roids-you're too young.

Your natural test levels are still through the roof bro, you don't need the sauce yet. Concentrate on pussy and booze....you only have so much time to enjoy these 18-22 yr old hos. Theres a fine line between cool older guy and creepy old guy...GET ALL THE PUSSY YOU POSSIBLY CAN RIGHT NOW, EVERYTHING ELSE COMES SECONDARY. Before you know it every hot chick you know will be pregnant and/or put on 25 lbs...nail em' all before they hit the point of ugliness. Start eating right and get all the wheels in motion for when your ready for juice....you don't need it yet. I would stab my mom to be your age again bro....ENJOY IT!
 
I like crackers jokes they are funny ;-)

Sorry for my dumb question but how old are you when you leave high school?

You also need to get decent training schedule before trying any gear.
 
ur2insecure said:
I like crackers jokes they are funny ;-)

Sorry for my dumb question but how old are you when you leave high school?

You also need to get decent training schedule before trying any gear.


yeh, but he doesn't have to make everything a fucking joke all the time........he quoted me when he said that so i assume he was directing his sarcastic wit towards me

and you are generally 18 when you graduate.........I agree he is too young, but if he insists on taking something i'll be glad to help him take it right
 
drrman said:
yeh, but he doesn't have to make everything a fucking joke all the time........he quoted me when he said that so i assume he was directing his sarcastic wit towards me

and you are generally 18 when you graduate.........I agree he is too young, but if he insists on taking something i'll be glad to help him take it right

Hello mate, he may have been but I did not spot that.

Yes you are 100% right, 18 is far too young. I think it is always best to train natural at first at least until the age of 21, exhaust all of your natural gains then try the gear. bigbolla23 it's probably not the answer you want to hear but it’s the best advice you’re going to get. If your 100% adamant then that’s a different story.

Too many people think its a miracle drug, its not, you have to work hard, train right, and eat well. If you do not have these three things in check best not bother.
 
ur2insecure said:
Hello mate, he may have been but I did not spot that.

Yes you are 100% right, 18 is far too young. I think it is always best to train natural at first at least until the age of 21, exhaust all of your natural gains then try the gear. bigbolla23 it's probably not the answer you want to hear but it’s the best advice you’re going to get. If your 100% adamant then that’s a different story.

Too many people think its a miracle drug, its not, you have to work hard, train right, and eat well. If you do not have these three things in check best not bother.


he may be very young.....too young for juice, but he must have something in check to have numbers like those!!! but he could very well be telling us a lie, as many on here do about there stats
 
drrman said:
he may be very young.....too young for juice, but he must have something in check to have numbers like those!!! but he could very well be telling us a lie, as many on here do about there stats

Well said,

You must spread some Karma around before giving it to drrman again.
 
drrman said:
yeh, but he doesn't have to make everything a fucking joke all the time........he quoted me when he said that so i assume he was directing his sarcastic wit towards me

and you are generally 18 when you graduate.........I agree he is too young, but if he insists on taking something i'll be glad to help him take it right
It's difficult to be serious when these roid puppies ask for advice-especially when it falls on deaf ears. Now I'm going stand in the corner cuz I've been a bad cracker.
 
BigCracker said:
It's difficult to be serious when these roid puppies ask for advice-especially when it falls on deaf ears. Now I'm going stand in the corner cuz I've been a bad cracker.


LOL man, you still fucking crack me up.......i've been in a pissy mood all fucking day and probably overrreacted a bit but anyways........i still enjoy all of your posts
 
bro, i started way to early and regreted it. Ive had some awesome gains, but I didnt not wait until I needed too. You have a lot more potential! Stay natty for a few more years before touching any gear. Do a lot more cardio and diet correctly, and you will see the results your looking for. I wish I would have known all the info that I know now before I started...Good job for researching!
 
I think you should take Human Growth Hormone (Jintropin). You will not get any water retention compared to if you take conventional steroids.
 
Jintropin UK said:
I think you should take Human Growth Hormone (Jintropin). You will not get any water retention compared to if you take conventional steroids.


nice sales pitch dickhead..........only jintropin will give them these results also huh.......
 
Jintropin UK said:
I think you should take Human Growth Hormone (Jintropin). You will not get any water retention compared to if you take conventional steroids.


and HGH does cause water retention moron
 
Jintropin UK said:
I think you should take Human Growth Hormone (Jintropin). You will not get any water retention compared to if you take conventional steroids.


lol! Everything is backwards...bro..why you got to lie to a newbie?
 
drrman said:
and HGH does cause water retention moron
You in a bad mood bro? You seem a little more high strung than usual. I recommend a hot 20 yr old w/ low morals and a tight ass as therapy.
 
drrman said:
LOL man, you still fucking crack me up.......i've been in a pissy mood all fucking day and probably overrreacted a bit but anyways........i still enjoy all of your posts

I admire your desire to help the newbs-it is truly a selfless effort. It's just that for years people I trained still chose to pick and choose the bits of 411 that suited them and discard the rest. I get tired of wasting my keystrokes on guys that wanna hear what you have to say, but the only listen when it's what they want to hear. These people even paid me and too often they didn't listen so I can only imagine free advice online is blown off that much quicker?

Think about the pencilneck doing cable crossovers for his main chest exercise. You tell him flat bench press followed by flys are better core exercises. 2 days later there's bonehead doing pussy ass cable crossovers again. It makes me wanna kick him in the head. One time a fat chick paid me $100 for a diet. After I went over the whole nutrition thing, I watched her drive her car across the parking lot and get in the KFC drive through. I felt like I totally wasted my time-and I even got paid.

Undoubtedly it took you years to acquire the knowledge of AAS you have. Just remember that most people will probably heed your advice only about 5% of the time. Think about that the next time you dish it out so freely. You're not a cheap ho, so why give it away? Let the pig headed egomaniacs learn on their own over time... a long time. lol I just post the bullshit sarcasm to entertain you guys in between helping people that don't really want to be helped-they just say that they do(hopefully annoying the tourists in the process -in a tough love kinda way).
 
BigCracker said:
I admire your desire to help the newbs-it is truly a selfless effort. It's just that for years people I trained still chose to pick and choose the bits of 411 that suited them and discard the rest. I get tired of wasting my keystrokes on guys that wanna hear what you have to say, but the only listen when it's what they want to hear. These people even paid me and too often they didn't listen so I can only imagine free advice online is blown off that much quicker?

Think about the pencilneck doing cable crossovers for his main chest exercise. You tell him flat bench press followed by flys are better core exercises. 2 days later there's bonehead doing pussy ass cable crossovers again. It makes me wanna kick him in the head. One time a fat chick paid me $100 for a diet. After I went over the whole nutrition thing, I watched her drive her car across the parking lot and get in the KFC drive through. I felt like I totally wasted my time-and I even got paid.

Undoubtedly it took you years to acquire the knowledge of AAS you have. Just remember that most people will probably heed your advice only about 5% of the time. Think about that the next time you dish it out so freely. You're not a cheap ho, so why give it away? Let the pig headed egomaniacs learn on their own over time... a long time. lol I just post the bullshit sarcasm to entertain you guys in between helping people that don't really want to be helped-they just say that they do(hopefully annoying the tourists in the process -in a tough love kinda way).


I must admit you have some very good points here, and i agree completely......but some newbies come across to me as ones that will sometimes heed the advice we give them, and those are the ones i generally help, but again im going on the stats and history they give me and of course they are usually telling lies about that too! Oh well, again my apologies for being so rash earlier!
 
drrman said:
I must admit you have some very good points here, and i agree completely......but some newbies come across to me as ones that will sometimes heed the advice we give them, and those are the ones i generally help, but again im going on the stats and history they give me and of course they are usually telling lies about that too! Oh well, again my apologies for being so rash earlier!
No prob bro. I'm not some little bitch that's above criticism. If you help even 1 guy out you're efforts weren't a total waste. I'm just selfish and callous at my ripe old age of 35 going on 25.
 
ya dude u might just want to wait.. im only 17.. just stick around the boards learn some shit get ur diet in line... diet is everything bro.. and if u do decide to do the cycle please get the pct in order befor and dont start it until u get everything u need for pct.. not how u start but how u keep ur gains when u are finished... with that said i guess i am hypocritical becuz i will be starting a cycle of test E and winny in 2 weeks...ya i know im way to young only 17 but im still debating on whether to go natural till 20s or not... but its all up to u bro be smart and be safe
 
your lifts are hella impressive big bolla! keep up the hard work, add in some cardio, experiment with your diet to get the results you desire... so much can be done by simply changing your diet, bro its so important! Listen to the advice of the guys on here, and keep up that hard work my man. Damn impressive lifts again, dude! Wish i was that dedicated at your age! :) peace!
-j
 
try this bro.. run in the a.m. on an emptry stomach(before b fast) and clean up your diet all clean and healthy food.. no more fast food like i know our generation depends on...
 
kmoe42 said:
try this bro.. run in the a.m. on an emptry stomach(before b fast) and clean up your diet all clean and healthy food.. no more fast food like i know our generation depends on...

Actually,walking fast for 45 mins on an empty stomach will burn more fat than running. Running will burn more calories, but it will likely burn cals from the food you ate the day before more so than stored BF. For guys w/ higher BF running can hurt more than help if it fucks with your feet/knees/hip joints.
 
Ok for the guy that made this post.... this is my story.

I am 20 years old and i have been working out for a few years inconsistantly and about 8 months on a 3 to for day routein.

I wanted to start taking something anobolic so i bought some prohormones. Superdrol and Pheraplex.

Well it took some time before they arrived at my house so during that time i just researched my ass off. During that time period i found out that pro-homones and orals are not good to take...... alot of sides and they are realy bad on the liver. So they are just sitting at my house.... 170 dollars woth of prohormones just sitting in my room.

But i am so glad i did that research because my body is worth alot more than 170 dollars.

Another thing... i know this guy i work with that took stuff and he went to the doctor and when his blood work came back he said that his colesteral was worse than the guy from super size me.

Your colesteral will go through the roof if you dont eat the right stuff. My advice is to wait 4 months before you decied to purchase your steroids. Take that four months and do research and chat on this board and work on your diet. If its not PERFECT or really really damn close then i would wait.

I think after you talk to guys that juiced at your age and relize that they all regret it you might think diffrently ... as i am sure you are a smart guy. Ohh and just my opinion if i could lift the way you do I would take pride by saying that i was all natural because not many that can bench almost four hundred pounds are.

Good luck
 
i never thought bout that bigcracker plus i didnt know thanks for the info lol i was givin bad advice and i didnt even kno...well u learn something new everyday... and for the dude who posted this give us ur height and weight so we know wut we are workin with here.. im assumin ur not to big or overweight... so hopefully runnin wont hurt u to bad.. well u can still jog lightly...maybe walk the curves jog the straits
 
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