i need ideas for a BIG cycle....not from nubes

[alltraps]

I need some ideas for my next cycle. i am clean now, and will be for at least three months. then im planning on hitting it hard with some serious shit.
all my cycles in the past were very simple, never more then three drugs, always test base, with either deca, eq, or tren, with anadrol or dbol to start.
i want to put together something more scientific, as my gains always come to a hault at week 6-7, no matter what i do. so my cycles are usualy only 8 weeks. for the next one, i want a longer one, maybe 16 weeks.

so any suggestions? i have access to everything, and i mean everything. i wont do GH again, as i think its a waste of money. and same with insulin, never worked well for me, even at large doses for extended periods. ohh and one more thing, dont think i will grow with less then a gram of test a week plus whatever else. i have done many cycles that were in the 4 gram total range. im 5'11, 247 lbs, and i think around 12%. i want size and nothing but. dont care about strength. opinions please. K for all that post "valuable ideas"

 

[Ulter]

You will have to change gears at week 8 if you want gains for 16. This is typically what would work for me. You should do very well with it.

The orals play a big part in this so you'll need to follow it as close as you can.

week**** gear
1-8***** test E 1500mg/wk
1-8***** NPP 800mg/wk
1-3***** dbol to taste
4-8***** oxandrolone 100mg/day

9-16**** test E 1000mg/wk
9-16**** Parabolin* 700mg/wk
9-16**** EQ 800mg
9-14**** winny 50mg/day
15-18*** winny 100mg/day

* you can exchange this for tren e if you can' get Parabolin, but you said you could.

 

[The_Chemist]

1-3***** dbol to taste

lol. Awsome!

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

I need some ideas for my next cycle. i am clean now, and will be for at least three months. then im planning on hitting it hard with some serious shit.
all my cycles in the past were very simple, never more then three drugs, always test base, with either deca, eq, or tren, with anadrol or dbol to start.
i want to put together something more scientific, as my gains always come to a hault at week 6-7, no matter what i do. so my cycles are usualy only 8 weeks. for the next one, i want a longer one, maybe 16 weeks.

so any suggestions? i have access to everything, and i mean everything. i wont do GH again, as i think its a waste of money. and same with insulin, never worked well for me, even at large doses for extended periods. ohh and one more thing, dont think i will grow with less then a gram of test a week plus whatever else. i have done many cycles that were in the 4 gram total range. im 5'11, 247 lbs, and i think around 12%. i want size and nothing but. dont care about strength. opinions please. K for all that post "valuable ideas"

600mg cyp EW
600mg deca EW
DBols...tough to say how many to take,,,i've taken lots daily and its hard to tell if its doing anything when im on the other 2 drugs

 

[BIGJAKE]

You will have to change gears at week 8 if you want gains for 16. This is typically what would work for me. You should do very well with it.

The orals play a big part in this so you'll need to follow it as close as you can.

week**** gear
1-8***** test E 1500mg/wk
1-8***** NPP 800mg/wk
1-3***** dbol to taste
4-8***** oxandrolone 100mg/day

9-16**** test E 1000mg/wk
9-16**** Parabolin* 700mg/wk
9-16**** EQ 800mg
9-14**** winny 50mg/day
15-18*** winny 100mg/day

* you can exchange this for tren e if you can' get Parabolin, but you said you could.

this is pretty much the best idea i can think of. i agree with ulter on this.great advice this will yield what you are looking for.why not run with the 1500mg all the way thru tho?and i would drop the bombs not a fan.

 

[alltraps]

this is pretty much the best idea i can think of. i agree with ulter on this.great advice this will yield what you are looking for.why not run with the 1500mg all the way thru tho?and i would drop the bombs not a fan.

what bombs? oxandrolone is var. oxymethalone is anadrol!


ulter, thanks for this, this is exactly what i was looking for. i will follow it to a T.

 

[wnt2bBeast]

test 1g/wk 1-8
primo 1g/wk 1-8
npp 1g/wk 1-8

test 1g/wk 9-16
tren ace 100mg/day wk9-16
var mg your choice 11-18

 

[BIGJAKE]

what bombs? oxandrolone is var. oxymethalone is anadrol!


ulter, thanks for this, this is exactly what i was looking for. i will follow it to a T.

my bad read it wrong.

 

[theoak01]

bro if you get any bigger you wont fit into your car

 

[Ulter]

By 9 the test is losing it's effectiveness so you might as well drop it to a maintenance level that will offset parabolin's libido effects, if any.
The second half could be a cutting cycle if you reduce calories with it. But if not it will just burn off a small percentage of fat and greatly reduce the water from the first 8. So a newbie might post, "hey I am losing all my gains" as they regularly do when their water retention goes down. Alltraps will see an increase in strength that will feel real good about that time you've given up hope of more gains. He said he doesn't care about strength gains but he didn't say he's be upset if he had them.

 

[_Yossarian_]

You will have to change gears at week 8 if you want gains for 16. This is typically what would work for me. You should do very well with it.

The orals play a big part in this so you'll need to follow it as close as you can.

week**** gear
1-8***** test E 1500mg/wk
1-8***** NPP 800mg/wk
1-3***** dbol to taste
4-8***** oxandrolone 100mg/day

9-16**** test E 1000mg/wk
9-16**** Parabolin* 700mg/wk
9-16**** EQ 800mg
9-14**** winny 50mg/day
15-18*** winny 100mg/day

* you can exchange this for tren e if you can' get Parabolin, but you said you could.

Ulter, what does your ancillaries look like for a cycle like this? Do you use a dostinex/aromasin combo?

 

[slat1]

What would you guys use for PCT on these?

 

[Ulter]

No I don't need dostinex but I use Aromasin.
I would use HCG every couple weeks as well.
PCT would be HCG at 1000iu/day for the last ten days with nolva.
Clomid - 100mg for a week 50mg for two weeks
If needed after the 4th week 10mg/dbol upon rising for a month or so while continuing the clomid.

 

[BIGJAKE]

By 9 the test is losing it's effectiveness so you might as well drop it to a maintenance level that will offset parabolin's libido effects, if any.
The second half could be a cutting cycle if you reduce calories with it. But if not it will just burn off a small percentage of fat and greatly reduce the water from the first 8. So a newbie might post, "hey I am losing all my gains" as they regularly do when their water retention goes down. Alltraps will see an increase in strength that will feel real good about that time you've given up hope of more gains. He said he doesn't care about strength gains but he didn't say he's be upset if he had them.

i see. great info great post

 

[Mr. Black]

Here's an older post from our dearly departed member...Metal Gear. He was a big fucker like you and this cycle appeared to work quite well....


Metal Gear's bulking cycle progress pictures and cycle breakdown

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I've gotten numerous requests to post some of my pictures and to post my cycle and the results that I got from this last bulking cycle. Here's the link to the phtos:

http://photos.yahoo.com/metal_gear_photos

Bulking cycle started on Sept. 16 and ended on Dec 25th. I'm still putting on weight even though I'm off. I went from 230 lbs to 254 lbs. and today I weight 259 lbs which is 1 lb short of my goal for this cycle. I had been 250 before on my last cycle but lost a lot of it do to injury and time off,general stress from life, but this time I came in a lot tighter and stronger.

This cycle started with

Week 1 Anadrol 100mg ed (Ttokkyo)/ Test Enanth. 1000mg (Brovel)
Week 2 Anadrol 100mg ed/ Test. 1000mg
Week 3 Anadrol 150mg ed/ Test 1000mg
Week 4 Anadrol 100mg ed/ Aratest 1000mg
Week 5 Anadrol 100mg ed/ Aratest 1000mg
Week 6 Anadrol 100mg ed/ Aratest 1000mg
Week 7 Fina 150mg ed/ Aratest 1000mg
Week 8 Fina 150mg ed/ Test Enanth. (QV) 1250mg/ Dbol 60mg ed (Naposims) / Insulin 10iu ed (humulin R)
Week 9 Fina 150mg ed/ Test. 1500mg / dbol 60mg ed/ insulin 10 iu (Humalog)
Week 10 Fina 150mg ed/ Test 1500mg / dbol 60 mg ed/ insulin 10 iu
Week 11 Fina 150mg ed/ Test 1875mg / dbol 75mg ed/ insulin 10 iu / proviron 50 mg ed
Week 12 Fina 150 mg ed/ Test 1875mg / dbol 75mg ed/ insulin 10 iu/ proviron 50 mg ed
Week 13 Fina 150mg ed/ Test 1875mg / dbol 75 mg ed/ insulin 10 iu/ proviron 50 mg ed
Week 14 Fina 150mg ed/ Test 2000mg/ bol 75 mg ed/ insulin 10 iu / proviron 50 mg ed

Also:
Week 1-14 Liquidex 1mg ed
Week 1-14 Finasterid (Proscar)1mg ed

I would have had more gains it it wasn't for the fake ass brovel shit that I was using for the first month. It gave me the flu right after every shot that I took, so I finally couldn't take it and switched to aratest. Aratest wasn't immpressive at all. QV was the shit. I got a big 50cc jug of their Test and that did the trick. Liquidex kept me tight with not one bit of bloat. I can't belive how hard and veiny I look. Strenght went out the roof. I benched 495lb finally. Before the cylcel 455lb was my best bench. I pressed 415 for 2 reps on militery press and squated 495lbs for 2.
Proviron is the shit. It helped a lot with the sex drive and made me even more tighter. I'm happy at 260lbs. 30 lbs of gain is great at my weight class. The more weight you put on the harder it is to put more on every cycle so someone that weighed 200lbs for example doing the same cycle would have had better results than me becasue it's easier to put on weight when you weigh less. I'm not competing at this time, I promised my self one more year of trainig before I put my foot at that stage. I want to blow the competition away without a doubt. I'm from Cali so we have a lot of big mother fuckers out here and a lot of competion so it's a little harder to win, you got to come strong or don't come at all.

For this next month I will be taking it easy a bit with some EQ at 600mg a week and maybe with some anavar and insulin and then in Feb I start my cutting cycle

Eq @ 600mg / winny @ 50mg ed / Prop. @ 100mg ed / hGH 6 iu ed / T3 25-75 mcg / Clen and ECA

That's my spring cutting cycle and will last for about 12 weeks

I want to remain over 255 lbs but with lot more defenition, emphasizing in my mid section and my legs.
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[alltraps]

strenght will be a bonus of course. thanks for the great help. i always use hcg throught my cycles at about 1000iu a week. and i never need nolva or bromo or any anti-e drugs. i always have them on hand, but dont use them.

bigjake, ulter, yossarian, mr.black and want2bbeast, i cant give you karma again, as i guess i have to give it to others first.

 

[The_Chemist]

I remember metal gear. He was a huge fucker. There is a guy on this board with the name pitbullstl. Looking at his avatar, I sometimes think he is Metalgear.