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I need a program...

alycat

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Could anyone, that know how to train a WOMEN, help me out??
I need a program... A full body program. I'm 5'3 and 137 lb. I've had two children and 1 year ago I was 19% body fat and 125 lb 9 I look hot, lean and toned)... I need to get back to that and then some. I really need this. I eat pretty clean and thinking of starting a cycle of Primo and Winny(Tabs) I have enough Primo for 5 weeks and Winny for 8. Where Do I start. I like circut training or drop sets
I beg you... Please help me.... I need this. It's my passion,

Thank you
AlyCat
 
A couple questions first --

How long & how did you train before? There's no difference between how a guy & a girl should train. (Except maybe the weights.) If you are normally lean (19%) then you shouldn't have a hard time getting back to that. have you cycled AAS before? Any experience w/ winny and / or primo? Individually or stacked? If no, I wouldnt' go there right now. If your training & diet aren't tight & consistent already, no guarantee what you'll get out of the AAS. These aren't cutting drugs - they just support the diet that you are on.

Let's start w/ your diet & training regimen currently - what you eat, how much, when you eat, how you train, split, reps, etc. When you say "full body program" are you just saying you want to work all muscle groups or upper body / lower body split or a full body / training session schedule?
 
WOW, thank you for replying.


0530 hrs 30 to 40 minutes of Cardio

0800 hrs Whey gourmet

0900 hrs oatmeal (li’l honey and milk)
+ Tea (milk & sweetener)

1200 hrs can of tuna, chicken, or salmon
(With a Tbs of light Mayo & G.Onions)
Light wrap or one piece of weight watchers bread.

1400 hrs raw veggies with non-fat sour cream (dip)

1600 hrs 10 almonds with a bit of honey on each of them

1800 hrs Chicken breast cooked veggies and a sm potato with cottage cheese


Snack I have a snack sometime in the evening, time varies.

I drink allot of tea during the day

I play Ball twice a week
I do cardio 30 minutes a day ( 5 days a week)
Weights I have slowed down on… I injured my joints behind my knees. (On the leg extension) I’ve been out for 3 weeks… getting better though
But normally I would train Tri’s & bi’s
Back & abs Legs & abs
Chest & abs
I do not like “living” at the gym! I find doing these, 4 days a week; I am in and out with in 45 minutes

I don’t really have connections for the steroids … so I would like to take advantage of this (purchasing Primo and Winny) You say these are not cutting drugs???? I have heard the total opposite.. please explain and tell me what is a cutting drug… I know it is just plain silly of me taking these steroids when I don’t know much about it… it’s just that I always get to a certain point in my training and then I give up for 4 or 5 months, I hit a plateau (even with a trainer) and I really want to look as lean as Trish Stratus and other girls like her. I’m also getting breast implants this year (march) and I want to be in top shap before so the recovery is quicker and so that once back to the gym I won’t have far to go to get back in shape. Another reason for the roids, is that I have some lose skin around my bellybutton (from my lovely children ... lol) if I can get as lean as I can maybe the surgeon can do something much simpler then a tummy tuck, I’m hoping a umbilicoplasty is all I will need.
Anyway thank you for taken the time with me. Much appreciate. I hope that joining this chat site is going keep me on my toes. I am tiered of fighting this.

Any suggestion would be appreciated.

Oh ya where do I find the on line journal for personal use?

Always
AlyCat
 
See my comments inline:


0530 hrs 30 to 40 minutes of Cardio

0800 hrs Whey gourmet - wow you can wait 2 hrs after cardio to eat?? I'm in agony 20 min into cardio.

0900 hrs oatmeal (li’l honey and milk)
+ Tea (milk & sweetener) -- good

1200 hrs can of tuna, chicken, or salmon
(With a Tbs of light Mayo & G.Onions)
Light wrap or one piece of weight watchers bread.
- maybe consider tossing the bread for sweet potatoe or brown rice. Or instead, because your 9 am meal was a carb meal, toss the complex carb here & make this the protein / fat meal.

1400 hrs raw veggies with non-fat sour cream (dip)
- Need some protein here - personally eating veggies on an empty stomach would cramp me up in no time. The sour cream- eh, doesn't add much. I'd do something like chicken & salad or something. If you had the protein / fat meal at noon, you could add the sweet potatoe or brown rice w/ this meal.

1600 hrs 10 almonds with a bit of honey on each of them
- I might skip the honey here - protein / fat (almonds) + a simple sugar. But its not bad.

1800 hrs Chicken breast cooked veggies and a sm potato with cottage cheese

Snack I have a snack sometime in the evening, time varies. O

I drink allot of tea during the day

I play Ball twice a week
I do cardio 30 minutes a day ( 5 days a week)
Weights I have slowed down on… I injured my joints behind my knees. (On the leg extension) I’ve been out for 3 weeks… getting better though
But normally I would train Tri’s & bi’s
Back & abs Legs & abs
Chest & abs
I do not like “living” at the gym! I find doing these, 4 days a week; I am in and out with in 45 minutes

I don’t really have connections for the steroids … so I would like to take advantage of this (purchasing Primo and Winny) You say these are not cutting drugs???? I have heard the total opposite.. please explain and tell me what is a cutting drug… I know it is just plain silly of me taking these steroids when I don’t know much about it…

Its actually very irresponsible so PLEASE educate yourself first. Even if you physically have them, you dont' need to jump into using them. Winny can be good or bad - the results are extremely individual. Primo has a reputation as a good, low-androgenic AAS for women, but again very individual results, and also has had a problem w/ lots of fakes over the last several yrs - make sure it is REAL if you go there.

it’s just that I always get to a certain point in my training and then I give up for 4 or 5 months, I hit a plateau (even with a trainer) and I really want to look as lean as Trish Stratus and other girls like her.

A plateau means its time to change up your regimen. Diet & training, particularly diet. I dont' know what to say about attempting to look like these fitness girls - that's a whole industry that when you get into it you end up doing a lot of drugs to keep that look (lots of airbrushing too i'm sure). Plus they don't look like that all the time -- there's "off season". Pick a reasonable goal for yourself and adjust as you approach it. You don't want to force your body to look a certain way when it isnt' ready yet. Lots of the bb girls have years of training, dieting & cycling under their belts to get that look.
I’m also getting breast implants this year (march) and I want to be in top shap before so the recovery is quicker and so that once back to the gym I won’t have far to go to get back in shape. Another reason for the roids, is that I have some lose skin around my bellybutton (from my lovely children ... lol) if I can get as lean as I can maybe the surgeon can do something much simpler then a tummy tuck, I’m hoping a umbilicoplasty is all I will need.
Anyway thank you for taken the time with me. Much appreciate. I hope that joining this chat site is going keep me on my toes. I am tiered of fighting this.

Any suggestion would be appreciated.

Oh ya where do I find the on line journal for personal use?
I just started a thread for my own use. You can do the same.
 
Thank You Soooo much, Esp. regarding the diet adjustments.
I know that looking like a pro fitness model is VERY high expectations, however, that is what I surround my self with, I guess I brain wash my self to thinking I too can achieve that look. I have this secret… A dream of one day competing. Anyways, thank you so much on you advise. What do you think in regards to my weight and Cardio time?

AlyCat
 
[Question: I have always been told that cardio first thing in the morning with an empty stomach is the best. is this true. I was reading in ones of your threads (daisygirl) that you eat cup Cream of Wheat with cinnamon and splenda
1 whole egg, 5 egg whites pre-cardio. so should I eat before I do cardio. I really try to do 30 min of HiIT cardio at 515 in the am. and then weights and streaching in the PM. What is your thoughts on this?undefined
 
ok BRENT21 where are you???
If you are on this site, I'm sure I will find you around here somewhere (women) ... I can't believe you.... just my luck!
 
good anwers here......I wont post anything specific...if you have questions or need something different om me
 
What would a good leg work out be...
If I'm doing to body parts each day I work out... how would you split them up?
 
One body part per day....5 days a week

legs:

Lunges
stiff deads
LEg extensions
leg curls
 
WOW .. really?
that's great... in and out in no time.
I do my cardio at 5 am and then weight in the evening.
so, I should do...

legs/calves
shoulders
bi's
tri's
back

abs every day? (i love abs)

cardio 7 days a week??? I do 30 to 40 min


oh ya and do I really need the 5 min warm up ( I hate warming up lol!) jk
 
alycat said:
WOW .. really?
that's great... in and out in no time.
I do my cardio at 5 am and then weight in the evening.
so, I should do...

legs/calves
shoulders
bi's
tri's
back

abs every day? (i love abs)

cardio 7 days a week??? I do 30 to 40 min


oh ya and do I really need the 5 min warm up ( I hate warming up lol!) jk

Close....

try this:

Chest
Back
Legs
shoulders
arms...




..and yes...even on leg day I'm in and out in 45 minutes max


work abs twice per week intensely


Cardio:

am - warm up for 10-15...then do High Intensirt Intervals:

30 second sprint(all out) followed by 1 miute of active rest......


do a total of 9 minutes 3x the first week....



add a cycle every week for 6 weeks...
 
oh ya I forgot Chest. lol!
on my 'arm' day I do tri's & bi's and no shoulders... how many excersie do you recomend for each part?
can you switch these 3 up? tri, bi and shouldes... ie. shoulders and bi's on one day and tri's on thier own day? or is that too hard onthe body?



Cardio:
So...I add one 30 min sprint and a one min active rest each week ... adding 90sec a week to my cardio? right?
then an cool down of 5 -10?

To sum it up....

Mon 5am Cardio HIIT 12pm Chest 7pm Bball game
Tue 5am Cardio HIIT 12pm Back
Wed 5am Cardio HIIT 12pm Legs 7pm Bball game
Thu 5am Cardio HIIT 12pm Shoulders
Fri 5am Cardio HIIT 12pm Arms
Sat 5am Cardio HIIT
Sun 9am Cardio HIIT
 
You cannot do HIIT everyday. Treat HIIT like a weight workout - every other day. It is anaerobic, just like weights.

This is also a very good way to completely tire your body out and risk injury or overtraining.

Anyway, if you are doing HIIT CORRECTLY, there is no way you would be ABLE to do it everyday!
 
Don't do cardio everyday. DIET will shed fat, not excess cardio. Excess cardio can actually INHIBIT fat loss.

If you were me, this is what *I* would do: (it is just an idea)

Mon 12pm Chest 7pm Bball game
Tue 5am HIIT 12pm Back, abs
Wed 12pm Legs (KILL them!) 7pm Bball game
Thu 5am 45 min steady state cardio 12pm Shoulders, abs
Fri 5am Cardio HIIT 12pm Arms
Sat 5am 45 min steady state cardio, abs
Sun OFF TOTALLY
 
Great... I'll do that, However.... some Mondays or Wednesday I can't make ball... but I can get to gym (they have the daycare) would I switch ball for HIIT or steady cardio?

Two more thing.... Squats vs. lunges... I have a ... lets say... well in doubt rear.... I have been told to stray away from squats, it will just make your ass grow even huger (I like my ass the way it is lol!) He told me to do more lunges instead...
Is this true?

When I do my cardio which machine do I use? the tread? the moving stairs? ....

Thanks guys/girls… you’re all great…
 
Great... I'll do that, However.... some Mondays or Wednesday I can't make ball... but I can get to gym (they have the daycare) would I switch ball for HIIT or steady cardio?
- You can include steady cardio for ball - just watch how much HIIT you do relative to the rest of your days & schedule accordingly. And it isn't bad to just not do cardio either. Never forget that overtraining = underrecovery and you will pay for it whenever your body decides you have trained too much.

Two more thing.... Squats vs. lunges... I have a ... lets say... well in doubt rear.... I have been told to stray away from squats, it will just make your ass grow even huger (I like my ass the way it is lol!) He told me to do more lunges instead...
Is this true?

- Squats are a basic core strength move. I don't know what to say to that comment - if you are lifting so heavy & you are already hella lean, maybe you would build some serious mass in the trunk, but seriously I can't see anything that is NOT good about squats as a cornerstone of your training. Unless you have back issues.

When I do my cardio which machine do I use? the tread? the moving stairs? ....

- Whatever works for you- I have a Precor at my house so I do that alot. I also like the fancier ones at the gym. When I start getting bored (usually w/in 15 min) I will switch around to the treadmill or whatever else. The step mill is an awesome workout!
 
alycat said:
some Mondays or Wednesday I can't make ball... but I can get to gym (they have the daycare) would I switch ball for HIIT or steady cardio? …

Either one, but make sure you adjust your training so HIIT is not 2 days in a row. Or, you could try a class - like Spin, Yoga, etc. Something that is different.

alycat said:
Squats vs. lunges... I have a ... lets say... well in doubt rear.... I have been told to stray away from squats, it will just make your ass grow even huger (I like my ass the way it is lol!) He told me to do more lunges instead...
Is this true? …

Squats alone won't make a butt huge.

But that said, I am not a fan of them. I think they work well for almost everyone. For me, personally, I love lunges. They do the job well for me. But I tend to build easy on my lower body and lunges just "fit" me. You decide what works well for you.


alycat said:
When I do my cardio which machine do I use? the tread? the moving stairs? ....

Doesn't really matter. Basically all cardio machine can be good - it all matters what effort YOU put into it. :) But for HIIT, I think the StepMill (moving stairs) are the best for indoor cardio. Second, would be treadmill or track running. One these things, you can easily change between levels and can really push yourself.
 
the HII cardio needs to be EOD...maybe even EthirdDay as you will have extreme soreness for a while
 
would a game of BBAll count as a HIIT. it's an hour of stop run stop run....
I do that twice a week. mon and wed then I could do HIIT in the gym on Friday.
does this work?
 
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