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I like this theory on human conditioning

KillahBee

KillahBee

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"Humanity is conditioned to seek happiness. The motivation is to be unhappy and therefore seek. As soon as we are happy, we default to unhappiness again to continue the search."

VERY true for a lot of people, as I see it. All the people who beleive that drama "happens" to them and that they are victims of circumstance - they fall into this trap. The journey of seeking is more important than actually obtaining the happiness. It gives them purpose.
 
Yes, nice theory, but I thought this thread was going to be about your hair again. :lmao:
 
bluepeter said:
How would you apply this hypothesis to explain your flaming homosexuality?
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Happiness = a warm vagina
Being straight = entering a warm vagina with my penile
Being flamingly homosexual = not entering a warm vagina with my penile
Not entering a warm vagina with my penile = unhappiness
Unhappiness = seeking happiness
Seeking happiness = purpose
 
That only applies to happiness obtained by acts and situations that encourage or biological survival or reproductive success, and it is designed that way to keep us constantly moving up the ladder. The happiness that comes from meaningful spirituality, psychology, gratitude, etc. doesn't go away once you get it.
 
KillahBee said:
"Humanity is conditioned to seek happiness. The motivation is to be unhappy and therefore seek. As soon as we are happy, we default to unhappiness again to continue the search."
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I have never agreed with you more
 
KillahBee said:
"Humanity is conditioned to seek happiness. The motivation is to be unhappy and therefore seek. As soon as we are happy, we default to unhappiness again to continue the search."

VERY true for a lot of people, as I see it. All the people who beleive that drama "happens" to them and that they are victims of circumstance - they fall into this trap. The journey of seeking is more important than actually obtaining the happiness. It gives them purpose.
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Where did that quote come from? I like it.
 
Lao Tzu said:
That only applies to happiness obtained by acts and situations that encourage or biological survival or reproductive success, and it is designed that way to keep us constantly moving up the ladder. The happiness that comes from meaningful spirituality, psychology, gratitude, etc. doesn't go away once you get it.
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Good point, reminds me of Matt 6:19-21, a bit out of context but the message is there. Billions believe their happiness lies in material wealth, the relentless pursuit of money and the superficial. That's the way the world conditions us to judge success, wealth and happiness, one goes hand in hand with the other. Imo finding a balance between the material and the spiritual aspects of life is very difficult, they're both a vortex.
 
JayC9 said:
Good point, reminds me of Matt 6:19-21, a bit out of context but the message is there. Billions believe their happiness lies in material wealth, the relentless pursuit of money and the superficial. That's the way the world conditions us to judge success, wealth and happiness, one goes hand in hand with the other. Imo finding a balance between the material and the spiritual aspects of life is very difficult, they're both a vortex.
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agreed.
 
subscribed until frisky posts
 
KillahBee said:
"Humanity is conditioned to seek happiness. The motivation is to be unhappy and therefore seek. As soon as we are happy, we default to unhappiness again to continue the search."
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Dude - you hit it right on. This weekend me and my girl were wondering why we get so high when we know we are going to feel like shit afterwords, mentally and in the gym. Then we go a few months without getting high and next thing you know we start to miss it - so we get all banged up again - like this weekend - and have the same talk about how much better it is to be sober.
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JayC9 said:
Good point, reminds me of Matt 6:19-21, a bit out of context but the message is there. Billions believe their happiness lies in material wealth, the relentless pursuit of money and the superficial. That's the way the world conditions us to judge success, wealth and happiness, one goes hand in hand with the other. Imo finding a balance between the material and the spiritual aspects of life is very difficult, they're both a vortex.
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This one I agree with less, I think life gets boring and the more wealth you have the more able you are to rid that bordom. With toys and vacations and so on. when you are broke you stay board and resort to cheap entertainment such as recreational drugs....
 
lmfao @ Frisky being a part of a smart people thread. did anyone tell her it's not about anonymous sex or farm animals?
 
Dieselicious said:
KillahBee said:
"Humanity is conditioned to seek happiness. The motivation is to be unhappy and therefore seek. As soon as we are happy, we default to unhappiness again to continue the search."
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Dude - you hit it right on. This weekend me and my girl were wondering why we get so high when we know we are going to feel like shit afterwords, mentally and in the gym. Then we go a few months without getting high and next thing you know we start to miss it - so we get all banged up again - like this weekend - and have the same talk about how much better it is to be sober.
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man, that was deep. ROFL
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Dieselicious said:
This one I agree with less, I think life gets boring and the more wealth you have the more able you are to rid that bordom. With toys and vacations and so on. when you are broke you stay board and resort to cheap entertainment such as recreational drugs....
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Not always true... If you base your happiness on constant entertainment and rely on wealth then you set yourself up for a big disapointment. There are many of ways to rid bordom that won't cost you a dime... I would think that if you constantly have to be entertained it would also get old also. I personally, prefer one or two vacations a year. I like quiet days at home cuddled on my couch reading a book or watching a good movie.
 
HumanTarget said:
lmfao @ Frisky being a part of a smart people thread. did anyone tell her it's not about anonymous sex or farm animals?
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why are you still posting? Didn't you get the memo ;)
 
administering some sharp rabbit punches to some of the hoes in this thread would make me happy.
 
HumanTarget said:
administering some sharp rabbit punches to some of the hoes in this thread would make me happy.
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I would love to punch you in the throat, and then watch you gasp for air... It would make me all warm and fuzzy inside.

:qt:
 
Frisky said:
I would love to punch you in the throat, and then watch you gasp for air... It would make me all warm and fuzzy inside.

:qt:
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lol, i was trying to figure the odds of you posting something intelligent, you caught me off guard. you lobster-clawed bitch.
 
Frisky said:
Not always true... If you base your happiness on constant entertainment and rely on wealth then you set yourself up for a big disapointment. There are many of ways to rid bordom that won't cost you a dime... I would think that if you constantly have to be entertained it would also get old also. I personally, prefer one or two vacations a year. I like quiet days at home cuddled on my couch reading a book or watching a good movie.
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Exactly Books and Movies are other types of entertainment - healthier than drugs, but still entertaining. Some people choose sex to entertain.
If you told me you like to sit by a lake by yourself - with no book or music or medication, and blissfully think about how happy you are and enjoy silence for hours I would be impressed. I might also thing you have a chemical inbalance, but hey, to each his own.
 
HumanTarget said:
lol, i was trying to figure the odds of you posting something intelligent, you caught me off guard. you lobster-clawed bitch.
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:heart:

I like to catch people off guard... It keeps things interesting.

I'm kinda smart ya know... (thank gosh for the internet and dictionary.com) LOL

*wink*
 
Dieselicious said:
This one I agree with less, I think life gets boring and the more wealth you have the more able you are to rid that bordom. With toys and vacations and so on. when you are broke you stay board and resort to cheap entertainment such as recreational drugs....
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Nothing wrong with wealth, wealth is necessary for choice but most of us are guilty of ignoring the spiritual side of life to some extent, usually because we're too busy trying to make ends meet.
 
Frisky said:
:heart:

I like to catch people off guard... It keeps things interesting.

I'm kinda smart ya know... (thank gosh for the internet and dictionary.com) LOL

*wink*
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i've got you so conditioned. you're my battered wife. i tell you your vaginer is like a toasted cheese sandwich and you tell me :heart: :heart: :heart:
 
Dieselicious said:
Exactly Books and Movies are other types of entertainment - healthier than drugs, but still entertaining. Some people choose sex to entertain.
If you told me you like to sit by a lake by yourself - with no book or music or medication, and blissfully think about how happy you are and enjoy silence for hours I would be impressed. I might also thing you have a chemical inbalance, but hey, to each his own.
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I like some alone time also. I would often (after highschool and working 3 jobs and tons of stress ) go to a family members home and sit on the farm, by the river and just rest. Just me, and nature... I would watch the birds and squirrels... It was so calming for me at that time... even if It was only for 30mins.

I am not saying I thought about how happy I was, but it was to just get away from the hectic life I was going thru.

And enjoy silence for hours.... Do you have kids? LOL, I am mostly a very busy body. When I get worn out I will head out and just drive and drive, with no destination. This doesn't happen often anymore, beings I have a family to tend to and I am constantly doing something and don't even barely get to sit down and relax EVER. But to me, just some peace and quiet, no phone, no tv... maybe a book... but even if not... just the silence is so relaxing.
 
JayC9 said:
Nothing wrong with wealth, wealth is necessary for choice but most of us are guilty of ignoring the spiritual side of life to some extent, usually because we're too busy trying to make ends meet.
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Positive energy is about as spiritual I get. I do believe there is a power in positive energy and being aroung positive people. of course I also believe in the ying yang effect, that there is a negative side, but I try to stear clear of nagativity.
 
HumanTarget said:
i've got you so conditioned. you're my battered wife. i tell you your vaginer is like a toasted cheese sandwich and you tell me :heart: :heart: :heart:
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Grilled cheese is the shizzle :p


hahahahah
 
Frisky said:
And enjoy silence for hours.... But to me, just some peace and quiet, no phone, no tv... maybe a book... but even if not... just the silence is so relaxing.
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Agreed.
 
Dieselicious said:
Positive energy is about as spiritual I get. I do believe there is a power in positive energy and being aroung positive people. of course I also believe in the ying yang effect, that there is a negative side, but I try to stear clear of nagativity.
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Then maybe you should consider adding more depth to your life which in turn will give you a deeper understanding of the meaning of happiness. The emphases is on the journey not the destination. 'Contentment', to be satisfied, to be happy with your lot, to want for nothing more. These are wonderful and strange words to both the poorest and wealthiest people on the planet.
 
Frisky said:
Not always true... If you base your happiness on constant entertainment and rely on wealth then you set yourself up for a big disapointment. There are many of ways to rid bordom that won't cost you a dime... I would think that if you constantly have to be entertained it would also get old also. I personally, prefer one or two vacations a year. I like quiet days at home cuddled on my couch reading a book or watching a good movie.
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lmfao @ TV Guide being a "good book".
 
HumanTarget said:
lmfao @ TV Guide being a "good book".
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I was thinking more along the lines of playboy
 
JayC9 said:
Then maybe you should consider adding more depth to your life which in turn will give you a deeper understanding of the meaning of happiness. The emphases is on the journey not the destination. 'Contentment', to be satisfied, to be happy with your lot, to want for nothing more. These are wonderful and strange words to both the poorest and wealthiest people on the planet.
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In all do respect kind sir, as philosophical as it may be, your point here made no sense to me. You are trying to reference spirituality as part of happiness am I correct. And why must spirituality be part of my being happy and content? This may be what works for you, but don’t knock my methods of happiness. I have achieved this contentment you speak of without spirituality or religion, I have achieved it in reality not a false reality created by enchanting sprits and gods who don’t exist!!!!! I have done so by the use of the other methods mentioned in this thread, by use of my wealth (vacations and toys) by use of my ignorance (bliss by use of drugs) – (maybe bad but temporarily effective to say the least) and as I mentioned I stay positive, and I am as happy as they come.
 
HumanTarget said:
stop. trying. to please everyone. at the same time. :heks:
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would you possibly look at the clouds in the sky... ? I need a clear passage to your jugular ;)
 
I seem to be the opposite, by default, I am a happy person. I can find joy in anything. Everyday I wake up I am happy just to be alive and experiencing the world today. We have a very finite time here, why spend any of it unhappy?

Bad shit happens to me, just as it happens to everyone, loved ones die, accidents happen, etc. But I get over it quickly in most cases. I figure that in order to be happy I have to EVENTUALLY get over it right? So why not start being happier sooner and get over it TODAY as opposed to tomorrow.
 
Lao Tzu said:
That only applies to happiness obtained by acts and situations that encourage or biological survival or reproductive success, and it is designed that way to keep us constantly moving up the ladder. The happiness that comes from meaningful spirituality, psychology, gratitude, etc. doesn't go away once you get it.
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100% agreed. but this type of happiness (the latter) is rare nowadays
 
Dieselicious said:
In all do respect kind sir, as philosophical as it may be, your point here made no sense to me. You are trying to reference spirituality as part of happiness am I correct. And why must spirituality be part of my being happy and content? This may be what works for you, but don’t knock my methods of happiness. I have achieved this contentment you speak of without spirituality or religion, I have achieved it in reality not a false reality created by enchanting sprits and gods who don’t exist!!!!! I have done so by the use of the other methods mentioned in this thread, by use of my wealth (vacations and toys) by use of my ignorance (bliss by use of drugs) – (maybe bad but temporarily effective to say the least) and as I mentioned I stay positive, and I am as happy as they come.
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Not knocking you bud, that's great, you've found true happiness in toys, vacations and drugs, good for you.

Spirituality as part of happiness? By spiritual I'm referring in part to awareness, how you perceive the world around you, your connection with and what it means to you. Think of it more as an inner eye rather than in a dogmatic religious sense.

For example take two guys, one is an artist and the other is an engineer. Stand them in front of the Golden Gate Bridge and tell me what they see? You understand what I'm saying right? So in this sense what you comprehend changes your view on life. Whether it changes it for better or worse I don't know?
 
KillahBee said:
"Humanity is conditioned to seek happiness. The motivation is to be unhappy and therefore seek. As soon as we are happy, we default to unhappiness again to continue the search."

VERY true for a lot of people, as I see it. All the people who beleive that drama "happens" to them and that they are victims of circumstance - they fall into this trap. The journey of seeking is more important than actually obtaining the happiness. It gives them purpose.
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Take anyone who lived in 1700 and they would think a ghetto was a huge improvement in their living conditions. Running safe water, heat you just turn on, washer/drier, etc.
 
KillahBee said:
"Humanity is conditioned to seek happiness. The motivation is to be unhappy and therefore seek. As soon as we are happy, we default to unhappiness again to continue the search."

VERY true for a lot of people, as I see it. All the people who beleive that drama "happens" to them and that they are victims of circumstance - they fall into this trap. The journey of seeking is more important than actually obtaining the happiness. It gives them purpose.
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That's an interesting point. I think it also has to do with contempt for contentment and boredom on that same plane of understanding. Everyone also has a different level of drive and motivation, as well as what triggers these things. It's true that time and age will eventually settle a person down, but a human being without a challenge in front of them will wither away regardless.
 
hanselthecaretaker said:
That's an interesting point. I think it also has to do with contempt for contentment and boredom on that same plane of understanding. Everyone also has a different level of drive and motivation, as well as what triggers these things. It's true that time and age will eventually settle a person down, but a human being without a challenge in front of them will wither away regardless.
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this is very true. and the point of this thread is that many people choose to create/attend to dramatic/unhappy/unhealthy type of challenged as opposed to creating their own healthier challenges. Outside circumstances are results of inner desires.
 
KillahBee said:
this is very true. and the point of this thread is that many people choose to create/attend to dramatic/unhappy/unhealthy type of challenged as opposed to creating their own healthier challenges. Outside circumstances are results of inner desires.
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I think a lot of it has to do with knowing oneself. So often there are people that encountered problems at too young an age to know how to deal with them on their own, and this is how they develop.....conflicted. So it probably continues on into adult life as a sort of self fulfilling prophecy, where inner conflict is a prerequisite to any external challenges. Then there are some people who find peace on the inside or always had it to begin with, so they can bypass any of that internal struggling.
You're right though; if things aren't clicking on the inside, it's gonna show on the outside.
 
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