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[Robert Jan]

What is truth?

Truth is all information that can be proven and not disproven to be consistent with reality.

Of course there are other situations. Say person A says to person B, "I love you." Nobody can prove or disprove this. So is it true?

In these cases truth is simply subjective and can not be defined.

 

[Robert Jan]

They're called 1/4 pounders in Canada.

& shouldn't that be fromage?

The French are just trying to be different. As if they have to try.

Obviously they're not actually called Royale with Cheese (let alone Royal with Cheese) it's merely a quote from Pulp Fiction.

 

[Robert Jan]

Actually my belief stems from the fact that I have been informed of the surveillance and given indisputable facts and documentation to back them up.

A recent example right here on this board: Look up a thread by Deus Ex Machina where he says that I am being watched from Dale.....which is the street behind my office. He also listed my initials. It was at the time he was promising an interview while alluding to hospitalization.

btw....I had some interviews while monitoring medication..... post accident....several years. The doctor stated that my mental health was essentially perfect.

Of course....that is before I discovered the internet.


I never even came close to mentioning the address of my office around here.


The people who refuse to believe that government does a great deal of surveillance are extremely naive.

I once watched a show where they documented the monitoring of JFK's sexual exploits (with quantity and duration etc.) well before he became anything.

I also have known some agents. One agency, in particular, really specializes in the planting of bugs. You could read my pm's and learn this of course.

you phrased the question as though you knew you were paranoid. I know surveillance happens. So what is their interest in you?

 

[ProfX]

No it's not. They are called "Royal Cheese".

Look at the McDonalds' website for France.

 

[Robert Jan]

If a large amount of mass (lets say something in the mass range of Earth as an example) were compressed down into an infinately smaller space, thus its density were to be continually increased, what would eventually happen?

A singularity forms (more commonly known as a black hole). Dr Stephen Hawking of the University of Cambridge, England wrote excellent work on the matter.

Earth is not really suitable to form a singularity though, it needs a body more like a star that has a low density because of the outward forces of radiation, that when the radiation ceases collapses upon itself.

In fact most stars are more likely to form white dwarves or neutron stars- Only truely massive stars can become singularities.

 

[ProfX]

RJ, shouldn't this thread be now closed since I've shown you don't know everything? False advertising & all that.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

A singularity forms (more commonly known as a black hole). Dr Stephen Hawking of the University of Cambridge, England wrote excellent work on the matter.

Earth is not really suitable to form a singularity though, it needs a body more like a star that has a low density because of the outward forces of radiation, that when the radiation ceases collapses upon itself.

In fact most stars are more likely to form white dwarves or neutron stars- Only truely massive stars can become singularities.

Good answer.

 

[Robert Jan]

According to Thomas Hobbs, what, specifically, has allowed humanity to create a culter and rise above the level of an animal?

Morality.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

You missed the one about the 2% genius thing though. The ramifications are far more complex and extensive than that, however what you stated it is least true. Everything else looked good. You are a reasonably intelligent individual. You failed to answer the philosophy questions still.

 

[Testosterone boy]

If a large amount of mass (lets say something in the mass range of Earth as an example) were compressed down into an infinately smaller space, thus its density were to be continually increased, what would eventually happen?

A pretty big bang as the matter would be flung outwards at ultra high velocity.

 

[Robert Jan]

RJ, shouldn't this thread be now closed since I've shown you don't know everything? False advertising & all that.

If you set your screen resolution to 10000x15000 and take a magnifying glass and look at the thread title you can see the disclaimer to the right.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Morality.

No, the ability to count numbers. A number system.

 

[Robert Jan]

You missed the one about the 2% genius thing though. The ramifications are far more complex and extensive than that, however what you stated it is least true. Everything else looked good. You are a reasonably intelligent individual. You failed to answer the philosophy questions still.

I didn't read up on your founding father' crap lol. Hobbs was a Locke follower except he believed people should be loyal to their elected leader even if they disagree with him at the time.

I don't know what he said about human evolution. It doesn't even seem to be his field. I think the american founding fathers were a bunch of hypocrites. Unelected, landowning slaveowners, who at first wanted to preserve the right to vote to their own kind, who told everybody that all men were created equal They were staggeringly full of shit, and are to this day entirely overrated. There had been intellectual writing across the rest of the world for centuries and the first few pelgrims in the US write something and supposedly it's of global importance right away. Call me conservative.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

A pretty big bang as the matter would be flung outwards at ultra high velocity.

No Robert Jan was right, about the singularity, however he was also correct that the earth would not have enough mass to do so. It was a trick question.

 

[ProfX]

If you set your screen resolution to 10000x15000 and take a magnifying glass and look at the thread title you can see the disclaimer to the right.

Riiiiggghhttttt!

 

[Robert Jan]

No, the ability to count numbers. A number system.

Well I don't agree with that. Perhaps that's a requirement but there are so many other things. Language, for instance. Language as defined in linguistics is preserved only to man.

 

[Testosterone boy]

You missed the one about the 2% genius thing though. The ramifications are far more complex and extensive than that, however what you stated it is least true. Everything else looked good. You are a reasonably intelligent individual. You failed to answer the philosophy questions still.

Plus he is living in denial about government surveillance.

People can and should be skeptical about many if not most claims. But to flat out refuse to acknowledge the possibility is just.....naive.

Indeed.....we spend tens of billions annually on all types of surveillance.

Study up on these agencies:

NRO...National Reconnaissance Org

NSA...Natioanl Security Agency

DIA....Defense Intelligence Agency

CIA...Central INtelligence Agency

FBI....Federal Bureau of Intimidation.....err....I mean Investigation

Not to mention the tens of thousands of employees of private and not so private security agencies...many of whom are front companies for the aforementioned agencies.


The elite employ cameras the size of mosquitoes that fly around and recharge their batteries by parking close to power souces like generators. Have been doing this for at least 7 years. No idea what they have available to them today.

Do you think they developed technologies like this with a shoe string budget? To do surveillance on a couple targets a year?

 

[Robert Jan]

BBF you give no response to my truth answer.
I think the question can't be answered anyway.

If there is some kind of intrinsical definition, it can only be speculated at and any answers found could not be expressed in language.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Well I don't agree with that. Perhaps that's a requirement but there are so many other things. Language, for instance. Language as defined in linguistics is preserved only to man.

Language as defined by linguistics has 4 requirements, 3 of which have been met by both great apes, parrots, and possibly dolphins at present. They only lack dynamics...original sentences and meaningful word recombinations.

What Hobbs was refering to was that the ability to comprehend numbers, and have a symbolic meaning for the difference between 1, 2 and 3, and communicate that difference in some manner is what has allowed us to form the most basic of cultures.

The question was not what you think the difference is, but what a well publish and taught philospher has written on the subject. The answer to this you did not know.

So, what about my slave/overman question, while we are dealing with specifics?

 

[Deleted member 33117]

BBF you give no response to my truth answer.
I think the question can't be answered anyway.

If there is some kind of intrinsical definition, it can only be speculated at and any answers found could not be expressed in language.

Your answer was close enough. Truth is only what we percieve. What we see as proof or evidence is again only what we percieve with the senses. Truth is an abstract notion, and as you said, "speculation".

 

[Robert Jan]

Plus he is living in denial about government surveillance.

People can and should be skeptical about many if not most claims. But to flat out refuse to acknowledge the possibility is just.....naive.

Indeed.....we spend tens of billions annually on all types of surveillance.

Study up on these agencies:

NRO...National Reconnaissance Org

NSA...Natioanl Security Agency

DIA....Defense Intelligence Agency

CIA...Central INtelligence Agency

FBI....Federal Bureau of Intimidation.....err....I mean Investigation

Not to mention the tens of thousands of employees of private and not so private security agencies...many of whom are front companies for the aforementioned agencies.


The elite employ cameras the size of mosquitoes that fly around and recharge their batteries by parking close to power souces like generators. Have been doing this for at least 7 years. No idea what they have available to them today.

Do you think they developed technologies like this with a shoe string budget? To do surveillance on a couple targets a year?

You are just being stupid. At no time did I deny anybody doing surveillance on you. However I'm reconsidering this, I don't think they would feel very threatened by you.

I know surveillance is done. I have witnessed it myself. Only it was by private companies, not by government agencies. Nationale Nederlanden insurances in Holland (big corporation) knows some things about me and my family they have no right to know and have found out in illegal ways. It never helped them though.

 

[Testosterone boy]

I will assume that you rationally have reason to believe your distrust is unfounded. It's also very self-important.

This means your experience is a form of paranoia. Paranoia can have biological causes, as well as psychological causes. You'd first have to eliminate the biological causes which can be f.i.

Vitamin B deficit
lack of sleep
stress

Most likely, the cause is mental.
I would need more information, but since is my omniscient thread I will simply give my best guess with what I'm given. I think your paranoia is caused by your strong hiërarchical way of thinking, and a strong grudge/inner conflict you hold from the past that is not directly trust-related.

So where in this statement do you openly acknowledge that I may not be paranoid? From vitamin deficiency etc.

 

[Robert Jan]

So, what about my slave/overman question, while we are dealing with specifics?

Friedrich Nietzsche is basically considered the anti-philosophical philosopher, he's basically the guy that all the people who find religion and philosophy a bunch of BS tend to agree with.

He'd say witty things like "Faith, is not wanting to know the truth"

I suspect you are looking for a similar witty terse saying here but I am not familiar with it.

Basically according to Nietzsche, the differences are as follows

Slave - passionate, traditional, comformist
Overman - passionate but rationally reserved, secure, independant, individualistic, down to earth

What is striking, and suits his life and work, is that the slave fits more into a Christian profile and the overman is in his eyes undoubtedly an atheist.

 

[Robert Jan]

So where in this statement do you openly acknowledge that I may not be paranoid? From vitamin deficiency etc.

I will assume...

as in, assume, pretending something is true for the sake of reasoning, while not having any proof of such, or thinking this is necessarily true.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Friedrich Nietzsche is basically considered the anti-philosophical philosopher, he's basically the guy that all the people who find religion and philosophy a bunch of BS tend to agree with.

He'd say witty things like "Faith, is not wanting to know the truth"

I suspect you are looking for a similar witty terse saying here but I am not familiar with it.

Basically according to Nietzsche, the differences are as follows

Slave - passionate, traditional, comformist
Overman - passionate but rationally reserved, secure, dependant, individualistic, down to earth

What is striking, and suits his life and work, is that the slave fits more into a Christian profile and the overman is in his eyes undoubtedly an atheist.

Ok, at least you are familiar with his works. The answer I was looking for is that the overman lives by a self-made morality, while slave morality is that which is handed down by his society, which he does not question deeper.

 

[Robert Jan]

Ok, at least you are familiar with his works. The answer I was looking for is that the overman lives by a self-made morality, while slave morality is that which is handed down by his society, which he does not question deeper.

which is basically what I said, IMO

 

[Testosterone boy]

as in, assume, pretending something is true for the sake of reasoning, while not having any proof of such, or thinking this is necessarily true.

Fair enough.

Not the important question is.....assuming the Bushbarian Rein of Terror escalates.....how does one escape and find freedom.

This is a start:

Leave EVERYTHING behind. Due to miniaturized GPS tracking devices. They are prolly down to large dot sizes by now.

Halt all contact with friends and family.

Live in a relativly obscure society with no legal documentation of your identity.


Why are they interested in me? Partly because they have unlimited budgets and can chase "fairy tales" indefinitely with no concern about the results vs spending.

 

[Robert Jan]

They do not have unlimited budgets. Think of how few special agents there must be to every civilian.

You have to stand out, past that ratio, to get personal attention from even just one of them. Why are they on to you, and not the guy next door?

 

[Testosterone boy]

They do not have unlimited budgets. Think of how few special agents there must be to every civilian.

You have to stand out, past that ratio, to get personal attention from even just one of them. Why are they on to you, and not the guy next door?

They are not "on to me."

Initially...and for a long time.....the purpose was to see if I qualified for a very interesting job with a very interesting future. Then I said no and tried to shake their interest by living the life of a very, very ordinary person. Which was not at all what they were interested in.

This all started in 1998. Why do I discuss it here? Well....I don't give a crap about freedom and privacy since I have not had a drop of either for a long time now.

It really boggles the mind at how a a perfectly normal life can be so easily and knowingly trampled without any regard whatsoever.

Citizens are ants in the eyes of the "agency."

 

[Robert Jan]

So you were a recruit who rejected the position? Actually makes sense. I can see how it stops you from having privacy, but how does it hamper freedom?

 

[Testosterone boy]

So you were a recruit who rejected the position? Actually makes sense. I can see how it stops you from having privacy, but how does it hamper freedom?

How do you have freedom if every move is monitored?

 

[Robert Jan]

I think freedom and privacy are independant at least in theory

if you do not break the law or form some kind of threat to their interests they will not interfere

to what extent are you being monitored anyway?

Even if you ARE being monitored you may be paranoid and self-important
about the extent to which you are

Back to my omniscience

 

[Robert Jan]

I am going to sleep now. When I come back I will be expecting to find some new interesting questions.

 

[Testosterone boy]

I think freedom and privacy are independant at least in theory

if you do not break the law or form some kind of threat to their interests they will not interfere

to what extent are you being monitored anyway?

Even if you ARE being monitored you may be paranoid and self-important
about the extent to which you are

Back to my omniscience

Apparently you were on vacation when the threats by Deus Ex Macheena hit. Apparently I was schedulated to be hospitalized for my bitching about the actions of this administration.

Police states are lovely things.

If you were truly omniscient, you would not ask these questions...........

 

[Testosterone boy]

I am going to sleep now. When I come back I will be expecting to find some new interesting questions.

I want my money back for the way that you fielded my question. I got no satisfaction whatsoever.

 

[sigweed]

I was thinking more along the lines of an answer such as "antiseptic". We would all be dead if it weren't for Joseph Lister who was inspired by Pasteur.

i see im not the only one who likes Donnie Darko

 

[sigweed]

If a large amount of mass (lets say something in the mass range of Earth as an example) were compressed down into an infinately smaller space, thus its density were to be continually increased, what would eventually happen?

it turn into something resembling a black hole or neutron star, but the earth isnt large enough to create such a thing naturally (plus its not a star), so the black hole would be the size of a pin head or something

 

[Robert Jan]

Apparently you were on vacation when the threats by Deus Ex Macheena hit. Apparently I was schedulated to be hospitalized for my bitching about the actions of this administration.

Police states are lovely things.

If you were truly omniscient, you would not ask these questions...........

I dont think anyone cares what you think about this administration enough to take action against it.

 

[-SD-]

it turn into something resembling a black hole or neutron star, but the earth isnt large enough to create such a thing naturally (plus its not a star), so the black hole would be the size of a pin head or something

thimble, actually. Its called the Schwarzchild index or something.

 

[sigweed]

thimble, actually. Its called the Schwarzchild index or something.

i think its schwarzchild radius, the radius of the black hole a dying star would create
i dont remember the exact number, my textbook is in my house at school

bonus points if you can tell me why they call them a black hole (without googling)

this isnt that hard, but this is the stuff that really interests me. Once you start getting into relativity of time changing and bending light, i get a hardon

 

[-SD-]

i think its schwarzchild radius, the radius of the black hole a dying star would create
i dont remember the exact number, my textbook is in my house at school

bonus points if you can tell me why they call them a black hole (without googling)

this isnt that hard, but this is the stuff that really interests me. Once you start getting into relativity of time changing and bending light, i get a hardon

Schwarzchild radius is the radius an object has to obtain to become a black hole, i.e. the earth would have to be crunched down to the radius of a thimble. Called a black hole because the theoretical model for a star collapsing in on itself is the fabric of space time stretching under the density and gravity, then collapsing through a "hole" in space time. Also because light cant escape a black hole.

 

[Testosterone boy]

I dont think anyone cares what you think about this administration enough to take action against it.

Like I say....internet chat boards are group masturbation boards.

Everyone goes furiously without any true concern about the ejaculatory distance achieved by their brethren.

You have a head start on the mentality of many docs....especially surgeons. Many have pretty fair personalities......... in addition to their mental skills...........until they hit residency....or so.

 

[sigweed]

Schwarzchild radius is the radius an object has to obtain to become a black hole, i.e. the earth would have to be crunched down to the radius of a thimble. Called a black hole because the theoretical model for a star collapsing in on itself is the fabric of space time stretching under the density and gravity, then collapsing through a "hole" in space time. Also because light cant escape a black hole.

yea thats what im talkin about, never heard of the shwarzchild index tho

 

[Robert Jan]

Like I say....internet chat boards are group masturbation boards.

Everyone goes furiously without any true concern about the ejaculatory distance achieved by their brethren.

You have a head start on the mentality of many docs....especially surgeons. Many have pretty fair personalities......... in addition to their mental skills...........until they hit residency....or so.

you went off on a silly little path there

 

[Werd]

What is the name for those two crisp lines of flesh that come down from your nose to make "points" at the tops of your lips? I mean it isn't nose and it isn't lips.




(Yes, I am strange, but I have always wondered this.)

 

[Robert Jan]

That's easy. A schisis patient is born without it- it hasn't closed.

The name of that piece of skin is Labium Superius
I don't think anatomy really distinguishes between the upper lip and what's above it. That's the same word for upper lip. I'll check.

In the Third volume of the Atlas of Human Anatomy series by Dr Franciscus Kiss and Dr Iohannes Szentágothai of the University of Budapest, as published in 1964, The whole piece of skin covering the upper front of the jaw under the nose is given one and the same name- Labium Superius
However the skin plays a minor role in this particular atlas of anatomy and little detail is to be expected.
Hungarian info for Werd.

A US FDA site with a medical dictionary notes a word Labium Superius Oris though, which is defined as: "The muscular fold forming the superior border of the mouth."

 

[Werd]

That's easy. A schisis patient is born without it- it hasn't closed.

The name of that piece of skin is Labium Superius
I don't think anatomy really distinguishes between the upper lip and what's above it. That's the same word for upper lip. I'll check.

In the Third volume of the Atlas of Human Anatomy series by Dr Franciscus Kiss and Dr Iohannes Szentágothai of the University of Budapest, as published in 1964, The whole piece of skin covering the upper front of the jaw under the nose is given one and the same name- Labium Superius
However the skin plays a minor role in this particular atlas of anatomy and little detail is to be expected.
Hungarian info for Werd.

A US FDA site with a medical dictionary notes a word Labium Superius Oris though, which is defined as: "The muscular fold forming the superior border of the mouth."

HEhehehehheheeee

Nagyon szepen koszonom. (I am too lazy to use the alt keyboard for letters)

Labium Superius Oris - sounds sexual if you ask me.... but then again I did get off MAJOR BIG when I was riding my man's face the other day.

HOLY FLURGING SHNIT DID I!!!!

 

[Robert Jan]

lol. sounds like you are still there. Earth to Werd...

 

[Werd]

lol. sounds like you are still there. Earth to Werd...

Go to the BTS board. I just reread one of my posts and am sporting MAJOR WOOD.

If I was a man, dammit I would never ever be able to leave the house as I would be too dumb from all the blood being pumped from my brain to my cock. Thank goodness I have a pettite wittle clit. I honestly dont know how men ever get any thinking done. When my clit is swole EVERYTHING stops..... literally.

 

[Robert Jan]

lol. when I get that, I rub one out, and get back to whatever I was doing. Even at the worst times that'll make me good as new for at least 30 mins. lol

 

[Y_lifter]

Obviously you do not know everything, because you don't know
crap about plumbing..

 

[Robert Jan]

Carpenting either. What do you think I am? a worker?

See these hands? They're made for wireless keyboards, holding creditcards, lifting weights, silver fountain pens and holding books. I would not filthen them with wrenches and hammers or whatever those plebs use to earn their sloppy pizza's