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or closer to $12,750. I transferred my MIL's account from a MM to a common stock account. Hope she does'nt lose money cause that would suck.

I've been told we're showing good bottoming here and have potential to go higher from here. "Buy" is what they say. I'll take 10% at this point. I had the choice of an S&P fund or a common stock. I gambled with the common stock fund. lol S&P is boring, I want 20%! lol
 
I used to trade for a hedge fund. I traded 4.65 million before it hit the account. I had 3 days to get it in there. It came the forth day. I almost had to pay $139,500 out of my own pocket for the load. That would have sucked.
Stick with the index funds... you will make more money.
If you follow a true sector rotation strategy... hit the Asian markets. The emerging market funds will get you a nice return.
If you can trade offshore funds do it. They have no problem with buying and selling in under a month.... $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
 
slat1 said:
I used to trade for a hedge fund. I traded 4.65 million before it hit the account. I had 3 days to get it in there. It came the forth day. I almost had to pay $139,500 out of my own pocket for the load. That would have sucked.
Stick with the index funds... you will make more money.
If you follow a true sector rotation strategy... hit the Asian markets. The emerging market funds will get you a nice return.
If you can trade offshore funds do it. They have no problem with buying and selling in under a month.... $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Did you send Gordon a card for his birthday?
 
all hail gordon

lol GL, what are you saying, someone is telling you they know what the stock market is going to do?
 
slat1 said:
I used to trade for a hedge fund. I traded 4.65 million before it hit the account. I had 3 days to get it in there. It came the forth day. I almost had to pay $139,500 out of my own pocket for the load. That would have sucked.
Stick with the index funds... you will make more money.
If you follow a true sector rotation strategy... hit the Asian markets. The emerging market funds will get you a nice return.
If you can trade offshore funds do it. They have no problem with buying and selling in under a month.... $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
that's what I'm looking at
an emerging markets index fund
any suggestions?
 
If we're not headed for the biggest and longest bull market of my life I'm going to be really pissed off.
 
My folks loved it when I put their IRA money into the #1 mutual fund over the past three years.

It dove like hell.

I used to tell investors "Do you think the fund managers will wake up tomorrow and be stupid".

Guess what.
 
bran987 said:
all hail gordon

lol GL, what are you saying, someone is telling you they know what the stock market is going to do?


They do know what it's going to do. They've been right most of the time. They're always the #1 or tied for #1 market timing newsletter for the past....at least 10-15 years and growing. Their "Buy" and "Sell" signals are dead on. Very accurate. I've mentioned them before. Bob Brinker's MarketTimer. They don't give signals often but when there's a turn coming, they tell you.

Right now they're still in a long bear market but they expect this cyclical bull to have further upside movement. I'll get their exact quote and post it here.
 
Here it is... better appreciate, but I know you won't... This IS good info. They called the BOTTOM on March 11. Do you know what that means? lol They called the top, they are dead on. Read this...

"We believe the cyclical bull market that began shortly after the major MARKETIMER buy signal on March 11, 2003 (S&P close 800.73) remains intact. Furthermore, we find the current bottoming process impressive, and we recommend that subscribers who are looking for an opportunity to buy into this market take advantage of weakness below the Standard and Poor's 500 index level of 1160. We regard any further testing below that level as a buying opportunity for subscribers who seek to increase their stock market holdings within their established asset allocation guidelines." end quote..


Like I said, they don't give a lot of buy and sell signals. As you can see their last "Buy" was in March of 03, but that was dead on, look at a chart! That Buy signal was still in a bear market which they predict will be a long protracted one but with several buying opportunities such as the March 11 one for cyclical bulls.

Here's their website. $185/year for 12 issues. I get it for any major turns in the market direction. They are not stock selectors, they DO know where the market is going though. I've been following them since 97, give or take.

http://www.bobbrinker.com/secure/mktmrpdflogin.asp
 
I happen to be of the same opinion (long bear market with ups and downs along the way)

Do they rely exclusively on technical analysis or do they consider fundamentals as well?
gonelifting said:
Here it is... better appreciate, but I know you won't...
aw bro :( don't say that. the hallmark of genius is an open mind. there is always more to learn.
 
bran987 said:
I happen to be of the same opinion (long bear market with ups and downs along the way)

Do they rely exclusively on technical analysis or do they consider fundamentals as well? aw bro :( don't say that. the hallmark of genius is an open mind. there is always more to learn.


They base it on everything. I wish I could show you the whole newsletter. They do have past issues to look at if you're a non-subscriber.


One year when I first started listening to his AM radio show, he was telling a caller to buy when the market went below a certain number (I forget maybe 6600) and I was thinking Is he crazy? It's 6800 now, is it really a big deal to buy now or wait till it gets to 6600? Maybe it would never hit 6400 and you're screwed if you wait. wtf? Then in the next week the market DID go to 6400 and from there it went up without looking back. That sold me. This guy knows his stuff. That was years ago and I've been following ever since.

gain, I use the newsletter just to know which direction we're going. There are mutual fund picks in there and model portfolios for different types of investors that reduce risk and maximize gains. They still are conservative, but definately beat the markets with less risk!
 
bdog527 said:
If we're not headed for the biggest and longest bull market of my life I'm going to be really pissed off.
rising interest rates make bonds more attractive
buy low?
 
gonelifting said:
Here it is... better appreciate, but I know you won't... This IS good info. They called the BOTTOM on March 11. Do you know what that means? lol They called the top, they are dead on. Read this...

"We believe the cyclical bull market that began shortly after the major MARKETIMER buy signal on March 11, 2003 (S&P close 800.73) remains intact. Furthermore, we find the current bottoming process impressive, and we recommend that subscribers who are looking for an opportunity to buy into this market take advantage of weakness below the Standard and Poor's 500 index level of 1160. We regard any further testing below that level as a buying opportunity for subscribers who seek to increase their stock market holdings within their established asset allocation guidelines." end quote..


Like I said, they don't give a lot of buy and sell signals. As you can see their last "Buy" was in March of 03, but that was dead on, look at a chart! That Buy signal was still in a bear market which they predict will be a long protracted one but with several buying opportunities such as the March 11 one for cyclical bulls.

Here's their website. $185/year for 12 issues. I get it for any major turns in the market direction. They are not stock selectors, they DO know where the market is going though. I've been following them since 97, give or take.

http://www.bobbrinker.com/secure/mktmrpdflogin.asp
I was so good at betting the horses that I started betting $100/race. Wiped out in two weeks ($700) of doing that.

Colleague was so good at predicting stocks that he got cocky. Wiped out in 6 months.

Good luck

fortunes change

the market is always risky...always will be

do not invest what cannot be lost
 
Testosterone boy said:
I was so good at betting the horses that I started betting $100/race. Wiped out in two weeks ($700) of doing that.

Colleague was so good at predicting stocks that he got cocky. Wiped out in 6 months.

Good luck

fortunes change

the market is always risky...always will be

do not invest what cannot be lost

This guy has been around since 1988 and is the best at it. #1 or #2 since then and every 5 or so period of time. He's got a long history of good performance. We all "guess" at the market, but if we can make better "guesses" with better info (like this guy), then I'll do it. His track record SINCE 1988 speaks for itself. It's all documented.

Again, he's not a stock picker, he just a long term strategist that knows his stuff. That's all it is. I gave the link if anyone's interested to read for themselves before judging.

Let it stand for the record, that I've tried to help...

It is what it is.





and When interest rates rise, it's BAD for bonds.
 
4everhung said:
rising interest rates make bonds more attractive
buy low?


I sunk quite a bit of change into the Vanguard500 and a couple of select stocks. Did it a couple of weeks ago.
 
bdog527 said:
I sunk quite a bit of change into the Vanguard500 and a couple of select stocks. Did it a couple of weeks ago.


They'll be back from these prices. Speaking of the S&P, I believe they'll rebound from here. I trust these guys' opinion. As for select stocks... not sure, individual basis. good luck.

One of many indicators is the contrary indicator of when people are selling a lot and the market is shorted more and more. You know, the old "panic setting in".
 
i just poured another 25000 american into some stock on friday
 
Wootoom said:
i just poured another 25000 american into some stock on friday

You already bought it, tell us which one.
 
gonelifting said:
This guy has been around since 1988 and is the best at it. #1 or #2 since then and every 5 or so period of time. He's got a long history of good performance. We all "guess" at the market, but if we can make better "guesses" with better info (like this guy), then I'll do it. His track record SINCE 1988 speaks for itself. It's all documented.

Again, he's not a stock picker, he just a long term strategist that knows his stuff. That's all it is. I gave the link if anyone's interested to read for themselves before judging.

Let it stand for the record, that I've tried to help...

It is what it is.





and When interest rates rise, it's BAD for bonds.

I think Warren Buffet is the best.
 
The stock market since inception I think has returned around an average of 10 percent or so a year. That's with the Great Depression and other more minor recessions factored in. With that in mind I can't see how for a young guy like me there could be a better investment over time for that return.
 
bdog527 said:
The stock market since inception I think has returned around an average of 10 percent or so a year. That's with the Great Depression and other more minor recessions factored in. With that in mind I can't see how for a young guy like me there could be a better investment over time for that return.


I agree, that's a good mindset to have. Bran1219 would be proud of that statement.

Keep in mind though, we ARE in a bear market where stocks are going down in the larger picture. They're only going up temporarily because they're taking a break and have these small bullsih pahses they get into that last for months at a time. If you can time these bullish phases in a bear market or better yet, time when the bear market ends and the NEW bull market starts, THEN you're doing well, very well. This guy does that, he HAS DONE that and seems to be doing it over and over again. His indicators must work. Until he proves himself wrong... he's right.

Bob fucking Brinker lol Also they manage accounts for you using the same indicators if you have a minimum of 100k to invest (only mutual funds) so you don't have to do any of the work.

This infomercial is over. damnit!
 
gonelifting said:
I agree, that's a good mindset to have. Bran1219 would be proud of that statement.

Keep in mind though, we ARE in a bear market where stocks are going down in the larger picture. They're only going up temporarily because they're taking a break and have these small bullsih pahses they get into that last for months at a time. If you can time these bullish phases in a bear market or better yet, time when the bear market ends and the NEW bull market starts, THEN you're doing well, very well. This guy does that, he HAS DONE that and seems to be doing it over and over again. His indicators must work. Until he proves himself wrong... he's right.

Bob fucking Brinker lol Also they manage accounts for you using the same indicators if you have a minimum of 100k to invest (only mutual funds) so you don't have to do any of the work.

This infomercial is over. damnit!

Yeah I was talking long term >20years but yeah we are definitely in a bear market right now.

Are you saying this guy personnally manages the funds? If so I would really like to see a prospectus and see what the 5 and ten year returns were. If he really is as good as you say at timing the market they should be stellar.
 
bdog527 said:
Yeah I was talking long term >20years but yeah we are definitely in a bear market right now.

Are you saying this guy personnally manages the funds? If so I would really like to see a prospectus and see what the 5 and ten year returns were. If he really is as good as you say at timing the market they should be stellar.


Like I said in the above posts, he is a conservative type investor. You could time the market and put all your eggs in a tech stock and make millions and you could time the market and put money on FUNDS that are less risky than the stock market and beat the overall stock market. THAT is what he does. He may not be THE person to handle the portfolio, but they use his or the groups indicators. He outlines some of the indicators he uses in his newsletter and on his Radio show.

http://www.bobbrinker.com/

^^ this is his website. His newsletter is $185/year. Well worth the price to know where the market's headed. A lot of info on that site. Go read it and you may like what you see. It's not for everybody. You can also view previous newsletters for free.
 
gonelifting said:
Like I said in the above posts, he is a conservative type investor. You could time the market and put all your eggs in a tech stock and make millions and you could time the market and put money on FUNDS that are less risky than the stock market and beat the overall stock market. THAT is what he does. He may not be THE person to handle the portfolio, but they use his or the groups indicators. He outlines some of the indicators he uses in his newsletter and on his Radio show.

http://www.bobbrinker.com/

^^ this is his website. His newsletter is $185/year. Well worth the price to know where the market's headed. A lot of info on that site. Go read it and you may like what you see. It's not for everybody. You can also view previous newsletters for free.


Yeah that's kind of what I was getting at as far as what his returns were from '01-'03 when everyone who made shit tons of cash in the late 90's were bailing water.

Well you made at least one person curious, I went ahead and ordered a back issue and applied for more information from the fund. Tried to give you karma but it said I had to spread it around. Thanks.
 
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