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I honestly Hate...

AGENT SHAGWELL

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My father. Not a passionate harsh hate, but I have not an ounce of respect for him. Really woudn't effect me if anything happen to him. Does this make me a cold hearted person? If my dog and him were drowning, I'd save my dog.
 
I think it's not too bad to have no respect for a parent.
Hate is a strong word to use for me at least.
I also had little respect for my dad when growing up since he never spent mush time with us kids.
I later learned he regretted the time he missed with us kids and hated the situation.
I still didn't forgive him but at least I understood he paid the consequences for his actions.
 
THeMaCHinE said:
Hate is a waste. Ultimately it is a reflection of fear.

Thats why I do not associate with him unless unavoidable. Out of sight our of mind, because I agree hate is wasteful energy.

Latimer....age 13, parents go divorced he lived on other side of US
 
you really dont hate your father, you hate yourself. see you really want to fuck him and you are resentful for the sexual feelings you have for him.
 
I agree with salami, I mean I have hatred for my family and have trouble being open with them because I wanted to be molested as a child and they couldn't pick up on the hints. I hate them.
 
my dad refers to his father as an asshole... that's what he thought/thinks of him. it's sad... after my dad's mum died, my dad's dad drank and smoked heavily and it killed him soon after.
 
AGENT SHAGWELL said:
Really woudn't effect me if anything happen to him. Does this make me a cold hearted person?

I guess it depends on what he did. I'm not asking you to air dirty laundry, just take stock of what happened. Hate is a strong word. If what he did warrants it, then yeah, I guess I can see someone hating a father. He's just a person like anyone else and God knows there are a ton of assholes around. I'm sorry things had to come to this Shags. It breaks my heart to hear that families have to succumb to this. My idea of family would never allow me to treat a daughter/son or anyone I'm related to that way. Guess I'm oldschool or something.
 
any advise or ANALyst you must ask the goat slayer...he seems to always have very logical and sound advise:D
 
I hated my old man cause he was mean as shit when I was young. I really never wanted to fuck him though.... but he used to beat the fuck out of me.
Now I think he is the greatest.... a little to old to fuck... but truly awesome. He will talk shit to anyone.... it is funny as hell. He is the best.
 
I would like to say that hate is a wasted emotion,
but sometimes I see or hear things that make me
want to just snatch somebody up and beat the crap
out of them. You just wonder how people can do
certain things to others.
 
I can't judge, nor will I offer an answer....Haven't walked in your shoes......Happy and content with yourself is the ultimate....

Ranger
 
I know you're just venting.. since I haven't seen ya around in a while.. I'll give this a shot..

Firstly, some one wise somewhere told me that hate is a usless emotion, and turned inward will fuck up your judgement, how you see you self and others. Ok, so daddy's a prick.. the best thing you can do is show support for you mom, and do everything you can to help her out.

Secondly, you shouldn't ever really hate a parent. Its ok to lose respect for ones parent(s), it happens all the time, but the truth of the matter is he is responsible for your existence, and you seem like pretty well rounded, educated woman from what I know of you, maybe a little hyper sometimes but hey, we all have our problems (pointing finger at self now). At one point he must have cared for you, provided for you, thats a big thing because who else ever cared for you when you couldn't have done it yourself.

Now, I know you are just venting, and thats totally cool, but dont fool yourself into thinking your fathers life is completely worthless.. Besides your brothers & sisters (if you have any) and mother, your father is your closest living relative. Later in life family becomes much more important especially once you have children of your own.

I do however think you SHOULD talk to your dad about why you feel like you do, what he has done to wrong you, and what you would like to see him do differently. Im sure, as the the sky is blue, a father would never mean to hurt his daughter on purpose.. Maybe he has some issues, maybe he has a lot.. He could have some big things he needs to work on himself.. But, its worth letting him know that.. a father will always be his daughters best friend.. Especially when his daughter is such a great kid.. like you.
 
Steroid Virgin, ditto what Darksong said. Wow.

It's weird, but I save all my "hate" for strangers. Like, if someone flames me on the Internet (no wise guys here, okay?), I will burn with rage at this totally anonymous person whom I'll never meet. That's how I vent all the nastiness.

But I can't hate anyone whom I actually know. People are so complex and hate over-simplifies them. Like: "He is evil; hence I hate him. She is good; hence I love her."

That's like Star Wars with the red light sabres (bad) and the blue ones (good). It would make things so EASY!! but it's false.

I'm babbling. Go on ahead and vent Shag! It's healthier than a spirulina/flax cocktail! Cleans the spleen!!! And we're here for you!

Oh yeah: I hate the Seattle Mariners this year. They're looking to deny my Yankees the pennant. I HATE THEM WITH THE FIRE OF A THOUSAND SUNS!
 
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Ms. Shagwell,

This post breaks my heart. You don't know how much that it does.

I just typed a really really long message on here..but it was too personal about me and my family and my father.

To make a long story short...it doesn't matter how much my father hates me or how much he believes that I am a loser or failure...or how much he hits me...I will always love my father.

God Bless and you will be in my prayers.

B True
 
Do you hate your father just for leaving you and/or your mother or is there more to it than that?

Hating either parent just because your parents got divorced seems rather harsh.

hardgainer (do tell me if it ain't any of my business)
 
b fold the truth said:

...or how much he hits me...I will always love my father.

B True

Damn man, I hope you're not in that situation anymore. Nobody should hang around to be beaten like a dog.
 
i guess I shouldn't have used the word hate. I am touched by the response and e mails I've received on this post. I appreciate it all.

But this post about my father is totally void of emotion (hence the term hate was wrongly used, as invokes emotion). When I think of him I don't feel pain, dissapointment, love, like, concern or anything anymore. He has become a nameless faceless person in my life. Kinda chated with my mom about it the other night, and she said something that made sense.

"I saw the sadness and disspointment in you face each time your father took out a piece of your heart....eventually he would leave you with no heart left to give"

I think that best describes it. I'm a caring person by nature, so I'd probably always still be there for him to hurt me again, if I was his only option (as I would for any human). But I have no feelings for him. Its like my emotions are completely shut off in reference to him.
 
AGENT SHAGWELL said:
i guess I shouldn't have used the word hate. I am touched by the response and e mails I've received on this post. I appreciate it all.

But this post about my father is totally void of emotion (hence the term hate was wrongly used, as invokes emotion). When I think of him I don't feel pain, dissapointment, love, like, concern or anything anymore. He has become a nameless faceless person in my life. Kinda chated with my mom about it the other night, and she said something that made sense.

"I saw the sadness and disspointment in you face each time your father took out a piece of your heart....eventually he would leave you with no heart left to give"

I think that best describes it. I'm a caring person by nature, so I'd probably always still be there for him to hurt me again, if I was his only option (as I would for any human). But I have no feelings for him. Its like my emotions are completely shut off in reference to him.

I can empathize with that.
 
AGENT SHAGWELL said:

Hey now, don't go spilling all my secrets...

Yes, we're back together. Our relationship is better than it has ever been.

Still fighting some demons though. (mostly personal, inside my head demons :)) Maybe even a chemical imbalance (hopefully temporary)
 
Keep on fighting those demons...you will be victorious...after all your THe MACHINE:)

Another quote that expresses my feelings towards my dad, the great Tyson...""I don't react to a tragic happening any more. I took so many bad things as a kid and some people think I don't care about anything. It's just too hard for me to get emotional. I don't cry."
 
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AGENT SHAGWELL said:
Keep on fighting those demons...you will be victorious...after all your THe MACHINE:)

hehehe -- if you only knew where that name came from...

thanks for the encouragement :)
 
AGENT SHAGWELL said:
Another quote that expresses my feelings towards my dad, the great Tyson...""I don't react to a tragic happening any more. I took so many bad things as a kid and some people think I don't care about anything. It's just too hard for me to get emotional. I don't cry."

:(
 
"Damn man, I hope you're not in that situation anymore. Nobody should hang around to be beaten like a dog."

I do not get physically beaten anymore. I still come home and hear all the things about being a loser and a failure and that I am a slacker. That hurts worse.

Ms. Shagwell...keep your chin up....and may God Bless.

B True
 
b fold the truth said:
"Damn man, I hope you're not in that situation anymore. Nobody should hang around to be beaten like a dog."

I do not get physically beaten anymore. I still come home and hear all the things about being a loser and a failure and that I am a slacker. That hurts worse.

Ms. Shagwell...keep your chin up....and may God Bless.

B True

Sorry bro; as long as you know it's not true... do what you can to rise above it.
 
My dad beating me up when I was 14 was the reason why I started bodybuilding. He has a violent temper and a loser attitude at times...but he's also only human and has a whole lot of good points.

Now 10 years later he of course can't fuck with me because he knows I'd just punch him out. Father or not. But I get along well with him and let me tell you that if anyone fucks with my dad, I'll beat the fuck out of him.

For me I can see my dad's good and bad sides and I know honestly that his good greatly overshadows his bad. I wanna learn from his mistakes so that I will not repeat them when I'm a dad.

Good luck with your dad. Realize that he's human...but don't fucking take shit that you're not supposed to take. Don't be afraid to punch him out if you have to. It amazing how effective physical measures sometimes....and just sometimes...can be.
 
I am with you on that post. I love the hell out of my Dad... heven though he used to kick the hell out of me.
He is my Dad.... the coolest father ever!!!
I picked my temper up from him!!!
 
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