I have been accepted into the fine Medical University of Leuven, Belgium

[danielson]

old school may allow you to get lots of knowledge but restrict your application of that knowledge

i agree, PBL was merely a resources issue but if done alongside good teaching it allows all the necessary knwledge to be assimilated provided the learning objectives of that PBL facilitate that...

it all depends on the tools they give you for you PBL (i.e. what they teach you outside of the PBL)....ive experienced teaching PBL and non-PBL....if you can get good PBL teaching it outclasses lectures IMO as its no-longer spoonfed teaching and you have to use your brain out of its 'listen and learn' mode....

different strokes for different folks i guess...i have lots of friends that appreciated the non PBL teaching more....

 

[Robert Jan]

It's always a mix. anybody is going to do practise work. anybody will have some lectures.
I just happen to prefer more of the non-PBL side of the spectrum.

 

[danielson]

lots of my friends want it all to go back to the old school, and when i joined we still had old school people in our uni...

i dont think they are a substitute for good teaching in lectures though, which worryingly lots if uni's think they are

 

[sawastea]

Karma is welcome.

Wish has been granted my Dutch ami

 

[manny78]

Well in Holland we have a sort of semi-socialised medicine, it's not as flat as in canada but its rather socialist, and specialists make a lot of money here.

I think practically any specialist who works full time makes over 100 k and some specialisms like radiology, cardiology, some plastic surgeons make 200-300k.

You'll never be a millionaire (unless maybe if you start a very succesful private clinic for plastic surgery or so) but you'll live pretty luxuriously forever and you're ensured of a job.

Also, even if it paid rather crappy, I would still want to be a doctor.
I see studying medicine in University as more of a goal than a means really. I'm not a very materialistic guy. Right now, I wouldn't even know what to do with a few hundred grand a year. I'd probably be uncomfortable, feeling obligated to spend it.

Well if it's really in you and you truly like that then perfect. In canada, a doctor will start at 55k, which is shit. Cops make the same after 2-3 years and work less hours.

Anyway, congrats.

 

[Robert Jan]

Like I said, I'll probably have plenty of money. I'm not a materialistic person anyway.

I'd be ASHAMED to drive a 200 k BMW or Mercedes.
They are for fucking pikey pimps IMO.

 

[manny78]

Like I said, I'll probably have plenty of money. I'm not a materialistic person anyway.

I'd be ASHAMED to drive a 200 k BMW or Mercedes.
They are for fucking pikey pimps IMO.

Be smart and get yourself an Infiniti G35/Nissan Skyline. Lot more power, more equipped and not as expensive as a Benz (for the same stuff inside). And for your daily driving (I believe you guys have big parking issues) buy a Smart. Both will cost you a big total of 45K

 

[Robert Jan]

lol @ smart. We have more parking problems than you canadians and americans but it's not THAT bad lol.

Also by the time I graduate medical school the whole car market will be entirely different so this speculation is rather pointless. Should I have a budget now and want a car a Skyline would definately be one of my options.

 

[danielson]

how does the driver of a smart car survive collisions?that things not big enough to have crumple zones...

 

[Robert Jan]

they don't. they are canned for preservation...