I have a friend who finally admits he is an Idiot - advice

[automaticj5]

Hey guys - whats going down.

Got a friend, a young friend, I think hes 22 now - been doing cycle after cycle after cycle, well not really cycling, more or less just been on for 2-3 years now with one empty spot of 6 weeks. He did bodybuilding shows for a while and was at the point where he was doing 2-3grams of test a week.

Trust me I have told him hes an idiot many a time. NEVER DONE A PCT -- yeah read that again.

So he came to me tonight, first time I have seen him in a while.. and starts telling me he has absolute no drive, t levels are in the dirt, cant keep it hard, and if he can, he cant get off... My first recommendation would be to start a pct of hcg, then clomid and PPs stack because thats what I use and it works, then I said maybe I should ask for some advice since this is a special and very bad case.

So anyone have any ideas of what he should do to possibly get his natural test levels back up? He has been off for a few months now and doesnt plan on getting back on.

Any advice is great -

Thanks

 

[eddymerckx]

blood tests first....then we will know where to go from there....

 

[HAYEZ]

what was he taking?

 

[automaticj5]

just about everything except gh... I just talked to him... he is on cyp rght now until I come up with something for him...

 

[HAYEZ]

That's not very informative, there quite a lot of possbilities

 

[RADAR]

Tell Him he needs to see a Dr. And have his blood profile checked!


RADAR

 

[night train]

Hey guys - whats going down.

Got a friend, a young friend, I think hes 22 now - been doing cycle after cycle after cycle, well not really cycling, more or less just been on for 2-3 years now with one empty spot of 6 weeks. He did bodybuilding shows for a while and was at the point where he was doing 2-3grams of test a week.

Trust me I have told him hes an idiot many a time. NEVER DONE A PCT -- yeah read that again.

So he came to me tonight, first time I have seen him in a while.. and starts telling me he has absolute no drive, t levels are in the dirt, cant keep it hard, and if he can, he cant get off... My first recommendation would be to start a pct of hcg, then clomid and PPs stack because thats what I use and it works, then I said maybe I should ask for some advice since this is a special and very bad case.

So anyone have any ideas of what he should do to possibly get his natural test levels back up? He has been off for a few months now and doesnt plan on getting back on.

Any advice is great -

Thanks

Have him go see an Endo. I had simular expeirience although I wasnt that nieve.... I ended up not being able to produce, test level fell to almost non existant. Anyway had to go to an Endo and now he perscribes me for HRT. Some of us dont realize the damage we can do in a short span. To bad, young kid.....

 

[automaticj5]

yeah - he didnt get it, he just did it. He names off every test I have heard of, about 5 different cutting orals and injectables, tren, eq. He did it all. Dude is huge and ripped, now fucked.

So tell him to goto an endo and get something prescribed? Dont put him on hcg and a post cycle compound?

 

[night train]

yeah - he didnt get it, he just did it. He names off every test I have heard of, about 5 different cutting orals and injectables, tren, eq. He did it all. Dude is huge and ripped, now fucked.

So tell him to goto an endo and get something prescribed? Dont put him on hcg and a post cycle compound?

You could try some pct, there is some good stuff in that forum written by a missed old member Jenetic. However this may not be the answer for him. regardless he needs to have blood work done Test levels, blood cell, thyroid etc... An Endo wont just perscribe anything, they will do exam, run blood work and may administer some ramping HRT to try and jump start his production. If that doesnt work then they may talk about permanent HRT. More then likely he will have to go in weekly for inj. Took me 2 yrs before they let me take home my own test....

 

[automaticj5]

So you think he should go be straight up and tell everything to the endo? and let the endo take care of it correct?