I hate you Tren Freaks!!!

[Realgains]

He he he ....that got your attention eh

I need some advice bro's...here's the story.... I good friend of mine wants to do his first cycle of gear. He has trained for quite some time and has reached about 180 pounds. He hopes to keep about 15 pounds. He has done a good deal of research in regard to roids.

He has cattle and he gives them Fina pellets, so he has plenty access . He wants to get some kits too.



Okay he is insisting on doing a Fina only cycle. "Quadsweep", a very experienced national level competitor, says that this is probably not a good idea because he is likely to CRASH hard post cycle because of the powerful nature of the roid and its very short half life. I tend to agree with him.

My questions are... have any of you done a "Tren only cycle", how did you like it and did you experience the dreaded crash? Would you agree with Quadsweep and myself and try to steer him away from a tren only cycle?
I was thinking more on the lines of moderate Test/Deca or Test/Eq at 200-250 each for a first cycle.

 

[CB38AC]

throw is something else test for sure winyy if possible but test top priority...it is not cetain but about 90% of the people on the boards seem to not be able to get it up on fina alone while a few freaks can...i think everyone will say throw in the minimum 200mg of test

 

[CLEMDOG]

well I can speak from personal experience. I did a fina only cycle for my first cycle at 75mg EOD for 6 weeks. It was awesome, I loved it. I did my clomid post cycle like planned, but I become overly hungry to begin a new cycle so pretty much immedietely after finishing the clomid I jumped on a test/dbol cycle.

I think fina is an incredible drug and it is very potent, but as far as first timers are concerned I think they can use it, but they need to Absolutely Know what they are doing and take every precaution necessary! that is clomid and arimidex post cycle. I'm not saying that everyone will have a smooth ride, but it is just about the same as taking a moderate dose of test for a first cycle.

 

[BIGbouncer]

Tell me, why arimidex post cycle?

 

[CLEMDOG]

I'm using arimidex throughout my sus cycle and will use through my clomid therapy. Unfortunately I dont exactly remember the impact that arimidex has one on post cycle recovery, but I do remember reading that clomid and arimidex used in conjunction with any type of cycle will help restore test levels back to normal better than clomid alone. they work through different pathways and therefore stimulate the testicular axis differently.

 

[BIGbouncer]

I know, but I thought you started arimidex after your fina only cycle. Fina doesn't aromatize, so I couldn't figure out why you did arimidex too...

 

[Jeff_rys]

i don't know, are you guys sure?

does Fina not aromatize and is this a fact for 100 %?
Progesterone scares the hell out of me.

 

[Zyglamail]

I personally dont think fina is that muc beyond the realm of a first cycle. If someone is educated and has friends to help giude then go for it. Post cycle crash is hard but I found the crash after a tren/winny cycle with clomid only to be much more severe than a cycle of test/eq/tren with anastrozole used from start till end of clomid therapy. Clomid will block ER recptors, but cant block them all. Ana will reduce what conversion there is so together they both work synergistically to speed recovery. In the case of tren only I prolly would not use ana during the cycle but would start it the day after last injection and run it till I was done with clomid.

 

[growin']

My first cycle was fina/winny for 8 weeks. Tren started at 150mg EOD, last few weeks were 75mg EOD. Winny was 100mg ED, last few weeks were 50mg ED. I took clomid and had almost ZERO crash afterwards. Wish they were all that pleasant. God that was a great cycle!

 

[Squat]

have done 3 tren only cycles, haven't experienced ANY sexual side effects and have had real good strength gains, but not much weight