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Hammerdog

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As a Canadian citizen i cannot stand the thought that someone we let into this country had anything to do with this Hi-jacking. We need to halt the immigration from that sector of the world...also we need to deport any of Bin-ladens sympathisors. Just as a nice piece of information we are letting 250 000 more immigrants in. What is this country doing? In my eyes we are running it into the ground....great country my ass....mabe just for immigrants not for citizens.
 
Canada helped us with the landings bro, we apprecaite that.
 
I think what hammer is getting at is the terrorists entered the US from canada and that is what upsets him. SInce the boarders between our countries are so lax, it was easier for them to enter canada and then come here as opposed to just comming here.
 
I am also canadian and I am ashamed that we let those fuckers in.

Chretien needs to get his head out of his ass. We need to tighten up security.
 
i dont know what you guys are talking about......i know i would rather be a canadian then an american right now.....no offence my american bro's.

my heart goes out to everyone that was involved in this discrace and to all the families that have lost loved ones. I hope that Bin Laden gets a nuke up his ass!!!!
 
any country that harbored this scum, should be razed to the ground, every man, woman and child killed, the soil burned, every form of life within their borders destroyed, we will send a message to the world, if you fuck with the USA, nothing will stop us from revenge
 
we let 375 000 of these fuckers in a year,its horseshit,im sick of canada to,i want my handgun to be legal dammit,im moving to the states,how hard is it to get a greencard
 
fiatconspiracy :

Get your facts straight.

Canada is right above the USA we are north americans and your allies. Canada and USA have always been very close.

We didn't harbor those criminals...

They entered North America through Canada and then crossed the Canadian-American border. It's a lot easier then entering straight into USA for now but that will change.
 
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Do you need a foster home Oak? LOL...we'll take ya, especially if you take out some of those 375k on your way here. :D

I'm all for halting immigration and visitation from the middle east.
 
You guys are being idiots, please don't perpetrate ignorance like this.

There is no definate knowledge that these guys came through canada, condeming immigrants as a whole just shows your juvenile ways of thinking.

I'm disgusted at the sudden outrage towards immigrants. There are those bad apples, but do not condemn groups for the actions of others. There are a great number of immigrants who have done nothing but contribute to our country and our economy.

Do not place people in groups, do not stereotype!
 
Dude don't feel bad about your country. They did not need to come through your country. Hell we let the fuckers in too.
 
Please do not blame those that wish to come to these countries for a better future. I pray to god that Arab Americans are not attacked for this. They hurt just as much as other Americans and I'm sure plenty Arab Americans were in the WTC during this time

Keep that in mind before we are quick to blame all Arab Americans. A difference should be made between the Fanatical religous groups and those who are arab or muslim that do not belong to those groups or support them
 
Who said they even came from Canada? Even if they did, it’s the US border police that would have let them in. You do know how the border works don’t you?.
 
Well it had been my exprerience every year when I go to get into Canada through Victoria, B.C. that the Canadians give me a harder time than the US customs coming and going. See I usually take my two girls up to visit my parents in Port Angeles, WA and we like to go to Victoria cause it a wonderful place to visit frankly...but, I kid you not everytime they want to see birth certificates of my children and want to see a letter that is signed by their father stating he knows that they are traveling with me. I always am prepared and never mind cause I know they are doing their job. BTW: I think Canadians are wonderful people always friendly.


* side note the customs officials in Port Angeles caught a guy of Algerian decent w/ ties to Bin Laden in 1999 coming over from Canada with a bunch of explosives meant to bomb LAX airport.
 
Hammerdog said:
As a Canadian citizen i cannot stand the thought that someone we let into this country had anything to do with this Hi-jacking. We need to halt the immigration from that sector of the world...also we need to deport any of Bin-ladens sympathisors. Just as a nice piece of information we are letting 250 000 more immigrants in. What is this country doing? In my eyes we are running it into the ground....great country my ass....mabe just for immigrants not for citizens.

Umm.. excuse me ... but you're an immigrant into Canada as well unless you're an aboriginal Indian. Are you? No? Then please shut the fuck up you racist piece of shit.
 
E2 if you do in fact live in a major Canadian city as I have for 19 of my 24 years can you honestly tell me that these views regarding our countries policies on allowing immigrants have helped this country..that is absolute bullshit...I lived most of my life in Edmonton which has a very high Arabic population....I'm sorry I don't veiw these people as an asset to our country...and I've held these views long before such tragedy occured...and I'm sure people in Vancouver and Toronto share my feelings...I don't think the "melting pot" makes us stronger as a nation
 
therealj said:
I don't think the "melting pot" makes us stronger as a nation

Isn’t Canada considered a multicultural nation? Not a melting pot. That’s grade four history for you.
 
Ingram said:
Who said they even came from Canada? Even if they did, it’s the US border police that would have let them in. You do know how the border works don’t you?.

Damn Skippy.. End of argument in regard to blaming the Canucks.
 
Ingram and now I'll give you a grade four lesson from the dictionary

Melting pot:

A place where immigrants of different cultures or races form an integrated society
 
therealj said:
Ingram and now I'll give you a grade four lesson from the dictionary

Melting pot:

A place where immigrants of different cultures or races form an integrated society

All you did there is prove yourself wrong.
 
Actually the US has always been called a "melting pot" as is inscribed in latin on their money. The term means that you get all these different cultures but they form one, the "US culture". This is not Canada's attitude. Here everyone does their own shit, hence we dont have anywhere near the patriotism as the US does. I've lived in both countries and this is definitely true.
 
WE MUST FOCUS OUR ANGER, ANGER WITHOUT FOCUS IS BLIND AND IS JUST AS DANGEROUS TO US AS IT WOULD BE TO OUR SWORN ENEMY'S.

MAKE NO MISTAKE VENGANCE IS SOON TO BE SERVED UP HOT AND DEEP, BUT OUR ANGER MUST BE FORGED AND TEMPERED TO SERVE OUR JUSTICE WELL. I PERSONALLY WOULD NUKE THE LIVING FUCK OUT ANY COUNTRY WHO HARBORS THIS KIND OF SCUM.

OUR CANADIAN BROTHERS ARE OUR FRIENDS WHO WOULD NEVER KNOWINGLY HARBOR THIS SCUM. THEY WILL HELP US FIND THE TRUTH, AND BLESS US FOR NUKEING THE SCUM OFF THE FACE OF THE PLANET.


GOD BLESS THE USA!!!!!!!
 
Canada has sent medical teams, blood, rescue teams. Their RCMP is helping our FBI investigate. They have opened their hospitals to our wounded.

I know the US appreciates the assitance being given.
 
listen to freshr1 while you search for someone elses words on the net to prove my retarded ass wrong..ok...I'll sit tight...and while you're at it please explain to my why Canada has always been viewed ass a "melting pot" but prefers to be viewed as a mosaic?.....that's right from grade 4 social studies for you
 
Multiculturalism: Multiculturalism is a term sometimes used to refer to an ideology, sometimes to a policy, sometimes to the ethnic composition of a society. Generally speaking, multiculturalism can be defined as a doctrine which officially acknowledges and promotes the existence of cultural diversity as an integral component of society.

Historical Background of Multicultural Policy in Canada


The term "multiculturalism" came into existence in 1971, when Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau announced the establishment of a Canadian multicultural policy. Prior to this, the federal government had never attempted to address the issue of cultural diversity in any systematic way and underlying the strategies adopted by governments in the earlier part of the century was a belief in assimilation as essential for national unity and social cohesion. In the sixties, growing discontent among Francophones in Quebec led the federal government to launch a major study of the language situation and of the position of the two major language groups in Canada, the Royal Commission of Bilingualism and Biculturalism. The aim of the study was to propose federal reforms to establsih a more harmonious co-existence of the two language communities. As the Royal Commission progressed, however, it rapidly became evident that it was not possible to talk of two "cultural" groups in Canada and that Canadians who were not of "French" or "British" origins would have to be recognized in any proposed reforms or "re-allocation of status" to communities. In 1971, a policy of multiculturalism in a bilingual framework was therefore proposed with the hope that it could accommodate not only English and French speakers in the country, but all Canadians. In outlining the objectives of the policy, Pierre Trudeau declared that it would provide assistance to "all Canadian cultural groups ... to grow and contribute to Canada" and that the federal government would promote "creative encounters and interchange among all Canadian cultural groups in the interest of national unity". This policy made Canada the first country to adopt multiculturalism formally.


The 1971 policy had five objectives: 1) to preserve human rights; 2) to develop the Canadian identity; 3) to intensify the participation of all Canadians in society; 4) to strengthen Canadian unity; and 5) to encourage cultural diversity in a bilingual framework (Government of Canada, 1984). Underlying these objectives was a commitment to cultural maintenance and to "unity in diversity", or to what eventually would be called the Canadian "cultural mosaic" in opposition to the notion of the "American melting pot".

If you’re too lazy to read the whole thing read the last line.
 
hey shit screw i was born here ,im not a immigrent,somebody was back in my family was,and back then there wasnt this problem like there is now so blow me
 
yes...see I wasn't too lazy to read the whole thing...I already knew what you were looking for...as you'll notice before you even posted you little cut/copy/paste...I asked you to explain why Canada wants to be viewed as a mosaic rather than a melting pot...can you please try and tell me in your own words...I know that will be tough for you and you'll probably have to resort to name calling or internet searches...but give it a shot will ya...regardless of how Canada wants to be "viewed" doesn't change the fact of what we are a "melting pot"...because in 1971 Canada had a" commitment to cultural maintenance and to "unity in diversity", or to what eventually would be called the Canadian "cultural mosaic" in opposition to the notion of the "American melting pot". as you so eloquently copied off the net does not mean were we successful in doing so...
 
I prefer to smoke pot, not melt it.

And to Canadian Oak - you were born here, but that's because your parents or grand parents or greatgrand parents IMMIGRATED into this country. So you're as much of an immigrant as the rest of Canada. Canada was built up and colonized by immigrants... but I don't blame you for not knowing that. They don't teach that until grade 9. Wait a bit.

OK EVERYONE GROUP HUG!!!! Can't we all just get along?
 
i understand what ur getting at but it is certain areas of immigrants that like to blow shit up not make things work,and they stink up this fucking place with there shit food
 
why dont you all shut your fucking mouths till you have the facts......it's all pure speculation
 
Ingram said:


Isn’t Canada considered a multicultural nation? Not a melting pot.

Therealj,

The Canadian government considers Canada as a Multicultural society. This was my first and only point. You are just some guy on the net who disagrees. Thats fine if you think different. If you want to shit on me for my cut/paste post refer to your first dictionary post. At least I backed my statement, which you did not.
 
Hammerdog Fuckyou!!!!!!!!!!!!!



As a Canadian citizen i cannot stand the thought that someone we let into this country had anything to do with this Hi-jacking. We need to halt the immigration from that sector of the world...also we need to deport any of Bin-ladens sympathisors. Just as a nice piece of information we are letting 250 000 more immigrants in. What is this country doing? In my eyes we are running it into the ground....great country my ass....mabe just for immigrants not for citizens.

They don't even know if they came from here!!!!!!!!!
I'm watching the news and one or two of the guys might have rented houses in the US. One may have been learning to Fly in Florida.




The Canadian Oak


we let 375 000 of these fuckers in a year,its horseshit,im sick of canada to,i want my handgun to be legal dammit,im moving to the states,how hard is it to get a greencard

Your a Joke Man you jump on everybodys bandwagon!!!!!!!!!!!
I see why 140lb girl want's to kick your ass!!!
You should call yourself The Canadain Weeping Willow, Because you do notting but cry about everything.


I'm proud of my Country and I'll put up with alot of shit but I for one will not stand back and let you put it down.


I'm sorry i had to do a reply like this:(
My prayers are with all the people in the US!!!!!!!!
 
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Ummm when you enter the United States you go thru US Customs not Canadian Customs. You enter Canada cutoms when you come back to Canada.

That being said most countries make errors in judgement when letting people into the country.

The whole point of all this shit is the people in any country that support these fucking terrorist financially etc which Canada and Canadian people dont.

So get yur fucking facts stright, we are in this mess together here.
 
I think trying to discern differences between multi-cultural which means “including people who have different customs and beliefs” and melting pot “an environment in which many ideas and races are socially assimilated” is a true exercise in futility.
There is and has been for quite some time policies in Canada that invite terrorist to come there. This is not a knock on Canadian’s. I am American but my family is Canadian. I have nothing but admiration for the Candian people.

This is a story that ran in the Toronto Star on April 15, 1999. It is poignant and chilling to read today.

Lax border laws `court disaster', critics warn
Security experts slam Canada's liberal policies
by Kathleen Kenna

WASHINGTON -- Canadians and Americans are "courting disaster" because lax laws and low budgets open their shared border to terrorists, smugglers and other criminals, experts warn.
"Terrorist groups locate in Canada in part because of Canada's liberal visa and asylum laws", Michael Bromwich, inspector-general of the U.S. Justice Department told a Congress committee yesterday.
"To ignore this problem on our border is courting disaster", said Dale Brandland, a Washington state sheriff.
"It will take one incident like we saw in Oklahoma City to create the kind of disaster I'm talking about", he said, referring to the 1995 bombing of a government building by American Timothy McVeigh that killed 168 and injured 850.
Canada took hits from almost everyone at a public hearing on cross-border immigration problems, including a Canadian spy expert.
"The largely untold truth is that Canada and terrorism do go together", Ottawa security analyst David Harris told Congress members. Canadians are so complacent in their "peaceable kingdom" that they ignore the growth of terrorism in their own country, he said.
He gave examples of "homelands-connected" violence, from the Air India bombing that killed 329 people in 1985, to Molotov cocktails hurled at the U.S. consulate in Toronto at an anti-NATO protest last month.
"Terrorism is alive and well and living in Canada and it's the obligation of the Canadian government to emphasize that fact to the Canadian people", said Harris, former strategic planning chief for CSIS (Canadian Security Intelligence Service) and now a private business consultant who assesses security threats.
Americans told the committee that Canada is a magnet for such men as Gazi Ibrahim Abu Mezer, serving a life sentence for planning to bomb the New York subway in mid-1997. He was caught three times trying to enter the U.S. illegally from Canada - mostly through British Columbia parks into Washington state - and twice returned voluntarily to Canada.
Canadian immigration officials refused to accept him the third time.
The U.S. has so few border agents and is so lax on background checks of illegal immigrants that "it's surprising that Mezer was apprehended once, much less three times", Bromwich said. "No terrorism checks are performed either by INS (Immigration and Naturalization Service) or by the department of state on the vast majority of asylum-seekers."
 
E2 said:
You guys are being idiots, please don't perpetrate ignorance like this.

There is no definate knowledge that these guys came through canada, condeming immigrants as a whole just shows your juvenile ways of thinking.

I'm disgusted at the sudden outrage towards immigrants. There are those bad apples, but do not condemn groups for the actions of others. There are a great number of immigrants who have done nothing but contribute to our country and our economy.

Do not place people in groups, do not stereotype!

Actually it's been confirmed at least 2 of the hijackers came through Canada. One came down into Maine and the other into Seattle, and took a rental car and drove cross country.
 
Oak wake up!

Oak have you ever even been beyond the borders of this country?
have you experieced what its like to live with terrorism?
do you know how lucky we have been to live in a country where our liberties are protected and where we can express ourselves without fear.
I lived for a time in europe, specifically Belfast for a short time, and spending time there showed me how great it was to be raised in Canada. People that live their entire lives there never truely know what its like to live free and we in canada take this for granted.
Sure we have our problems in Canada, but on the whole this is one of the best places in the world to live. There is a reason that canada is voted the best place to live year in and year out by the United Nations.
So maybe next time you want to rant and rave about something just think twice about who you want to blame for everything, cause unfortunately for you i think you tried to blame the wrong person.
As the great duo of Bob and Doug MacKenzie would say
"take off, eh!!"
 
I'm first of all sickened in general by people who don't seem to care about these events. I work at a golf course and I wanted to slap the people who were concerned with their games at a time like that. At least everyone here is concerned and venting even if we have some amazingly different views. As a Canadian I feel that primarily we and the US are one in the same, I feel proud that we have each other to depend on and that we can share our border and life styles with each other. As for the hate of Arabic people, there were many Arab nations that helped the US during the Gulf crisis and are still allies. We are all stereotyped in one way or another and it is only ignorance that keeps this going on. Sure we'll have our dreamers that say "can't we all just get along?", but that isn't reality. What is reality is that there will be war and some innocent people will die, such is the cycle of life and world history. When we were attacking Hussien in the Gulf War, it was not the people of Iraq that were targets but their goevernment and ruler.....they are as afraid of him as we are. This is where we are today. I'm just one person with an opinion like everyone else and I will be the first to shed a tear of joy when these cowards are brought down, and if needed I will be right there to help along with everyone else.
 
OVER-Immigration is ruining Canada. We have people who don't give a fuck about the country who are just using it for all that it's worth. And all through school I have been taught about the great "Cultural Mosaic" we have. That's fucking bullshit. I think a melting pot like the U.S. is better, all they do now is move their whole damn families here, live in little 'gangs', and contribute next to nothing to the country. Cut immigration in half. This wasn't really related to the original post but I just had to get that off my chest.

-Dean C
 
By the way I love Canada, and I just don't like to see it getting fucked over. And we are too lax about security.


-Dean
 
TheBandit it has not been Confirmed



Actually it's been confirmed at least 2 of the hijackers came through Canada. One came down into Maine and the other into Seattle, and took a rental car and drove cross country.

They are saying they May Have taken a ferrie to Maine from here.
We do get the news in Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
They are saying they May Have taken a ferrie to Maine from here.
We do get the news in Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL I bet the guys down in yarmouth are just waiting for CNN to show up. Too bad it would have been US customs/immigration who cleared them for entry.

hey murman, i'm in hali too
 
LMAO:

Well you see what happened when you have a nice liberals idiots that thinks the world
is a nice place. The CSIS wrote papers since 10 years about that problem, and what happened
they were given a #, and trashed!!!!!!!!

We do have non strick immigration, we are soft and we can see it, anyone can apply to canada and get in, no problems with that.

The fact: lets me give some insight from a paper I wrote last year "The Role of Military Unconventional warfare operations force in International Relations "!


One of the major threats in today world, one who do psychological, physiological,

and morale damages, terrorism. In this new millennium, no country can say they are

protected against terrorist incident. Terrorism is dominated, by governments to afraid

specific country (Libya, Syria), extremist groups, right and left wing extremism group

(Militia in the USA, Red brigade in Italy) religious fundamentalist groups, or liberation

fighters groups. Every country had his share of terrorist activities. I can give for example

our country Canada and his past terrorist activities on his soil:

-An attempt on the life of the Turkish commercial attaché in Ottawa;

-An explosion at the Litton plant in Toronto that injured 10 people;

-The Ottawa assassination of the Turkish military attaché;

-An attack on the Turkish Embassy in Ottawa, causing the death of a security
guard;

-The wounding of a visiting Punjab cabinet minister in British Columbia;

-An apprehended plot to attack Indian locations in Toronto;

-The shooting of a Punjabi-language newspaper editor in Vancouver;

-The occupation of the Iranian Embassy in Ottawa, without loss of life;

-The attack on a Sudanese politician at the Ottawa Airport;

-Letter bombs sent to the Mackenzie Institute in Toronto and the Alberta Genetics
laboratory.

-June 22nd 1985 Air India Flight 182

( source : COMMENTARY No. 53 a CANADIAN SECURITY INTELLIGENCE SERVICE publication, TERRORISM: MOTIVATIONS AND CAUSES, January 1995 )

and recently the events in Montreal associated with Islamic terrorist and the Groupe Islamique

Armée. Canada is a natural heaven and ground base for terrorist groups around the world,

because of his immigration system and his supporter of the "cause " on Canadian soil.

Until the early 1980`s the RCMP had the job of intelligence gathering information about

terrorism and also they had the authority in Counter-Terrorism activities.

the agent of the CSIS that wrote the papers and essay about the problems was ignored,
we have other priorities, well see what happened!
:(
 
Murman said:
They are saying they May Have taken a ferrie to Maine from here.
We do get the news in Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ferries! One of my favorite things to do is catch this little ferry named Bruce! Then I just ride all day till I get tired, then I finally get off! I just love ferries. ;¬D
 
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