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I got some really bad news yesterday guys...

Good luck bro

I know of another Irish bro who ran six month long cycles of over 1g/wk , drank and got wrecked too while on cycle and although told by many doctors that he had trouble came through and is still goin strong today! So don't worry too much , we Celts are madmen at heart!
 
I told my GF that afternoon at the gym... she was crushed, I feel awful for putting her through this. Last night, she asked me if I've ever used AAS, I told her the truth. How the fuck am I going to explain this to my parents?


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You must have some balls man, you were told that you are dying, and yet you make it to the gym that afternoon, for a workout I assume. My sincere apoligies if I'm wrong but something in your story doesn't add up. Swelling in the feet and ankels is more indicative of left ventricle failure than liver failure. In most cases of liver failure that I have seen, you are swollen in the abdomen. Your a young man yet, we are to believe that a few cycles of gear has destroyed your liver.:confused: :confused: :confused:
 
Scotty, I am pretty new to the board so you will not have heard from me before.......keep you chin up bro.
All the best.
 
Full blown liver failure doesn't come from a few cycles if your liver is healthy to begin with. There is no reason to speculate and drive yourself into an even deeper depression. You are going to a specialist so wait to see what he says. While liver values are a poor indication of the condition of your liver you still need to check it out because of the swelling.
This is not a pitch I will send it to you free but you need to start taking r-ALA. Many times this condition can be reversed by it.

Med Klin 1999 Oct 15;94 Suppl 3:84-9 Related Articles, Links


A conservative triple antioxidant approach to the treatment of hepatitis C. Combination of alpha lipoic acid (thioctic acid), silymarin, and selenium: three case histories.

Berkson BM.

Integrative Medical Center of New Mexico, New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, USA. [email protected]

BACKGROUND: There has been an increase in the number of adults seeking liver transplantation for hepatitis C in the last few years and the count is going up rapidly. There is no reliable and effective therapy for chronic hepatitis C since interferon and antivirals work no more than 30% of the time, and liver transplant surgery is uncertain and tentative over the long run. This is because, ultimately, residual hepatitis C viremia infects the new liver. Furthermore, liver transplantation can be painful, disabling and extremely costly. TREATMENT PROGRAM: The author describes a low cost and efficacious treatment program in 3 patients with cirrhosis, portal hypertension and esophageal varices secondary to chronic hepatitis C infection. This effective and conservative regimen combines 3 potent antioxidants (alpha-lipoic acid [thioctic acid], silymarin, and selenium) that possess antiviral, free radical quenching and immune boosting qualities. CONCLUSION: There are no remarkably effective treatments for chronic hepatitis C in general use. Interferon and antivirals have less than a 30% response rate and because of the residual viremia, a newly transplanted liver usually becomes infected again. The triple antioxidant combination of alpha-lipoic acid, silymarin and selenium was chosen for a conservative treatment of hepatitis C because these substances protect the liver from free radical damage, increase the levels of other fundamental antioxidants, and interfere with viral proliferation. The 3 patients presented in this paper followed the triple antioxidant program and recovered quickly and their laboratory values remarkably improved. Furthermore, liver transplantation was avoided and the patients are back at work, carrying out their normal activities, and feeling healthy. The author offers a more conservative approach to the treatment of hepatitis C, that is exceedingly less expensive. One year of the triple antioxidant therapy described in this paper costs less than $2,000, as compared to more than $300,000 a year for liver transplant surgery. It appears reasonable, that prior to liver transplant surgery evaluation, or during the transplant evaluation process, the conservative triple antioxidant treatment approach should be considered. . If these is a significant betterment in the patient's condition, liver transplant surgery may be avoided.
 
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Damn Scotty, sorry to hear of your troubles. I see a lot of people asking about cycles and your drinking habbits etc trying to determine the underlying cause of you condition. Have you had blood work done since you started cycling or before? Liver problems can manifest themselves for many reasons, for example, my mother passed away a year and a half ago due to liver failure which was supposedly because of hemochromotosis (ie high iron levels) and we were told this could be hereditary. I have had full works before and the only thing elevated was protein levels (hehe, imagine that right). Anyway, whats your going through is horrible and I dont want to jump on the bandwagon and say it was gear, although im sure the gear didnt help, especially if you are running 22 week cycles.
 
Holy shit!! REAL sorry to hear that bro. This is the kinda shit
that makes me just wanna give up the drugs. Some will argue
it couldn't have happened from just a few rather light cycles, but
I know it sure didn't help. Good luck to you man! I will be
thinking of you and hoping for nothing but the best!!!!
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ulter said:
I will send it to you free but you need to start taking r-ALA. Many times this condition can be reversed by it.

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Ulter- You never cease to amaze me. Trully one of the good ones.
You got a pm!!
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Hey bro,

If it's any concellation to you, I had a friend that went through complete renal failure a few years back. The doctors said that it was a pre-existing condition, but who know what may have aggravated it.

In any event, he received a liver transplant, he was stuck at home for a few months to recover while on immune suppressing meds.

But now, he's pretty much back to his normal life. Granted there's a few tings he can't do anymore now, and he has to watch what he eats more closely, but other than that, he ended up fine.

I'm sure you'll be alright as well, just keep faith.
 
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