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I got some really bad news yesterday guys...

SCOTTY-TWO-HOTTY said:


I've always been stubborn... so long as I can get out of bed, I'll never give up a work out. I'm still feeling quite powerful in the gym actually... I haven't lost much strength/size since I called off my cycle 6 weeks ago.

My Doctor prescribed Lasix for the edema. He said it would help ease the "symptoms" of my present condition. I'm finding that its making me feel fluish. I might just stop taking it. Anyone have any advice regarding Lasix. I'm taking 40mg in the morning with breakfast.

Ask your doctor about Aldactone. Gets rid of water better than Lasix w/o as much sides. But I have no idea if it effects the liver so bring it up with your doc.

I'm saying a prayer for ya bro.
 
SCOTTY-TWO-HOTTY said:
This too... every morning for the past week, I've woken up with yellow puffy bags under my eyes. They go away in a few hours, but are back the next morning. Definitely a marked departure from the norm though, I've never looked like that before.

No abdominal swelling to speak of yet.



Its good to see so many bro's lending their support and kind words to Scotty. It makes me proud to be a member here!!

Scotty, I might have missed if you had said it-- but how old are you bro??


A/C
 
Wow this post has definatly made me stop and think about the severe danger that I we are all risking. Scotty very sorry to hear this hope the doc was wrong and you pull through this. I somewhat had a scare like this my doc calls me a week after blood test, and says i want you to go for a sonogram to check you liver it shows high numbers. Luckly everything turned out alright hopefully everything will turn out ok for you. Just a reminder make sure you tell your doc what you have taken.

Goodluck!
 
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You must have some balls man, you were told that you are dying, and yet you make it to the gym that afternoon, for a workout I assume.
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I've always been stubborn... so long as I can get out of bed, I'll never give up a work out. I'm still feeling quite powerful in the gym actually... I haven't lost much strength/size since I called off my cycle 6 weeks ago.

My Doctor prescribed Lasix for the edema. He said it would help ease the "symptoms" of my present condition. I'm finding that its making me feel fluish. I might just stop taking it. Anyone have any advice regarding Lasix. I'm taking 40mg in the morning with breakfast.


I'm hoping that your doctor is off base with the state of your liver, It is good news that you do not have hepatitis, because as others have stated your liver can repair itself better than any other organ. As for aldactone it does not work anywhere near as well as lasix, also aldactone has anti androgen properities and in itself can lead to bitch tits after prolonged use by males. As I stated (somewhat poorly) in my previous post your condition sounds as if it may have cardiac coplications as oppossed to liver. But I am not an M.D> nor do I pretend to be. I do have experience with lasix however. The flushing that you are now experiencing will stop after a short peroid of time. Lasix is very K depleteing so eat more baked patatos, bananas, OJ and other foods rich in potassium. I've foun out through trail and error that the morning is the worst time for me to take lasix, as it tends to weaken me for my workout. I take 40mg daily at three in the afternoon, and I've found out that this works best for me, no sides. I even tan several times a week without burning.

I hate to get off subject but let me tell you a little story, a little over two years ago I contracted a viral infection in my heart. After going into complete cardiac arrest, respiritory failure and kidney failure. I was on life support for a week. After I recovered somewhat my doctors told me that I would have to go to the University of Michigan Medical Center for a heart transplant in six months. I was also told never to workout ever agin. Three weeks later I hit the gym walking 6 min intervals on the threadmill. That was then, today I can do 90 mins at 4.3mph without breathing hard. Yesterday I hit 20 reps with the 100lb dumbells in the seated military press. My doctors admitt that they were wrong in my case, and my heart should last a good 30 years or more. I am a subject in a case study, because my heart is healing and getting stronger each day. My doctors also allow me to use moderate amounts of anabolics, in fact my main doctor believes that it was intermittent steroid use throughout my lifetime that saved my life. The point that I'm trying to get across here is never give in to any illness, your will power is a powerful tool in the road to recovery. If you have any questions on anything or if I can help you in anyway please feel free to e-mail me.:)
 
Nice inspiring story LiftsIron

Scotty..........God bless you and more importantly, your doctors! Time and time again doc's prove their incompetency. Get a second opinion, hell......get a third! (Long story but I can personally attest to this need for many different opinions!)

Start the ala and the Tylers IMMEDIATELY along with a ton of water! I totally agree with RG! Please tell me you stopped the AS too I hope! (Some people are soooooooo stuborn).

God Bless you bro........please try to stay positive and get educated immediatly on your disorder! It can only help!
Hang in there and please keep us posted!
 
JUICER50 said:
I feel for you bro.... I really do.

I am not new to this game and also have had liver levels OFF the charts.and I will tell you guys something VERY important.. LEAVE THE ORALS ALONE!...You don't need them to grow....They do give a very fast acting effect, but just shoot some test and enjoy ythe ride......Take this for what it is worth, but I was also like many reading that thought I was young and bulletproof and made many mistakes that I REGRET.........

The liver is a very vital organ....DON"T fuck it up!

Well said! I have sworn off orals.
 
Thanks(again)to everyone for their kind words, I'm really touched by everyones concern... really proud to be a member of such an amazing group.

A lot of you asked me some questions... I'll try and answer all of'em now.

I'm 32 years old. I started AAS when I was 28, I've done 5 cycles in the past 4 years. I was in week 11 of my last cycle when I developed the peripheral edema in my ankles and feet. I know for a fact it was the Winstrol that pushed my Liver over the edge... I had started it 3 weeks earlier(in week 9). I had originally planned on only doing 50mg/ED, but the results of Winstrol were so immediate and so remarkable that I bumped it up to 100mg/ED. I was doing 1 50mg tab and 1cc of Winstrol suspension IM. Fuck!!! That stuff made me strong... and HARD!

I'm clean now... I binned the cycle 6 weeks ago(in week 11 after I developed the edema). God only knows why I had the good judgement to call it off when I did. As bad as the situation I'm presently in is, things would have been infinitely worse had I continued with what I was planning to do during the last part of my cycle. I would have started Tren in week 12 and run Tren/Winstrol/Prop for 6 more weeks. It would have been my first experience with Tren. I'm just guessing, but I think I would have died.

As far as my alcohol consumption goes... I get drunk, at the most, 6 times/year.

12 years ago(when I was 20 years old), I did 4 months of Accutane(80mg/ED). It would be mere speculation, but I think Accutane might have something to do with whats happening now.

Genetic predisposition: The only thing to speak of here is Cancer. Several of my Dads family members have died in their 50's from various forms of Cancer.

Since I started AAS, I've ALWAYS(whether "on" or "off")taken supplements to combat the sides of steroids. I'm an EFA freak... I take Hempseed Oil by the tablespoon, Borage Oil caps, and EPO caps every day. Anti-oxidants... 800IU of Vitamin E and 1000mg of Vitamin C every day. I have used ALA periodically, I regret not being more fanatical in that respect.
 
Now is the time when all of your intense physical training will pay off. For years, you have deliberately challenged yourself, you have strengthened your spirit by strengthening your body. Lifters are tough guys. We can handle this sort of adversity. That is what you need to remember. Think of how strong of a person the iron has made you. I don't mean physically, I mean mentally. YOU WILL BEAT THIS. IT IS NOT STRONGER THAN YOU. May God be with you.
 
Good Luck Scotty-Two-Hotty

I am the same age as you, and have been juicing for the same amount of time.

I had my liver values checked twice...after reading your post, had them checked again will get the results next week...

I have used anadrol and test, up to 750mg test a week and 100mg anadrol a day..got swollen ankles off of that..
And I got drunk, and I mean totally pissed, 1-2 times a week for the last 5 years, though in the last year I have reduced the volume of alcohol I drink.
Lord knows I ought to have liver cancer...

Frightening news. Hope everything works out in the end.
Good luck!
 
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