I dont understand?? How does ECA supposedly destroy your libido and wood?

[Mavy]

I notice that its been posted many times how ECA will kill your wood? Can someone explain to me how this works? I have not really used a heavy ECA stack for a long while (only caffience pills before workouts), but was considering some T-Rex before my cycle.

My thinking would be that THermos would speed your metabolism, which in turn would increase blood flow, which would be good for erections?? I dont see why these would effect your wood negatively? Can someone explain this to me please? The onlu thing that I can think of is MAYBE because of the CNS drain that it would cause?

Thanks,
Mavy

 

[x_muscle]

i dont think ECA has any effect on libdo

 

[Mavy]

Maybe not libido directly, but I have heard many say that it effects their erections.

 

[JP@Ironology]

I have heard this too but I have never had a problem.

 

[geoboy]

Maybe not libido directly, but I have heard many say that it effects their erections.

both ephedrine & caffiene are vasconstrictors. they shrink up blood vessels. ie the opposite of what an erection works on, and the opposite of what drugs/supps like viagra/no2/arginine/cialis/yohimbine do.

if you split the eca into component parts (separate ephed caff asp), i think the ephed is worst, follwed by caff. asperin doesn't have any effect.

for fat loss esp in estrogen-sensitive areas without weakened erections either topical yohimbe (yohimburn) or pill form. this boosts erections as well.

 

[The Terminator]

The vasoconstriction properties of ephedra are the culprit...that shit kills me (thankfully its being banned here in about 3 days ( Not that that will stop me from being able to get it LOL )

 

[Mavy]

Thanks geoboy and term! That was what I was looking for. I did not know that they had those properties!

Damn!

Mavy

 

[Juice Authority]

I notice that its been posted many times how ECA will kill your wood? Can someone explain to me how this works? I have not really used a heavy ECA stack for a long while (only caffience pills before workouts), but was considering some T-Rex before my cycle.

My thinking would be that THermos would speed your metabolism, which in turn would increase blood flow, which would be good for erections?? I dont see why these would effect your wood negatively? Can someone explain this to me please? The onlu thing that I can think of is MAYBE because of the CNS drain that it would cause?

Thanks,
Mavy

Any type of stimulant, whether it be thermo products or cocaine will have an adverse effect on erectile function.

 

[Mavy]

Ya JA, I have heard that about all rec drugs, even alchohol, I have never really had a problem with it though. All of a sudden not looking to excited about getting some thermorexin. Anyone ever have any troubles with the wood on T-rex?

Mavy

 

[Juice Authority]

Ya JA, I have heard that about all rec drugs, even alchohol, I have never really had a problem with it though. All of a sudden not looking to excited about getting some thermorexin. Anyone ever have any troubles with the wood on T-rex?

Mavy

Don't let that discourage you from usin T-rex. I would take 2 T-rex pills in the AM and 1 more in the early afternoon. You don't want to be taking T-rex after 4PM b/c it'll fuck with your sleep. It's active in the body for 4-6 hrs so by night time/early evening you should be fine.

 

[Mavy]

Don't let that discourage you from usin T-rex. I would take 2 T-rex pills in the AM and 1 more in the early afternoon. You don't want to be taking T-rex after 4PM b/c it'll fuck with your sleep. It's active in the body for 4-6 hrs so by night time/early evening you should be fine.

Fuck! I usually work out around 8'o'clock! So much for poppin one right before training. I am gonna do some reading on it, make sure its right for me.

Thanks bro.
Mavy

 

[FlexManning]

The long and short of it is that ephedrine sometimes gives you a case of "baby dick" when your dick's soft but doesn't do much to shrink your hard on.

I've been a guineau pig for this hypothesis for years now and have even measured my hardon (yep, still 14 inches (right)).

As far as libido, yes and no. It seems like it's just kind of different. Sort of like you're not quite as horny but you still have the drive to have sex, at times even more so (hard to explain, but go pop some ecstasy and and I guarantee you'll know what I'm talking about). Hell, I WISH it would kill libido. Does anybody know a drug like that? I bang my wife all the time and still think about snatch all day. (lol) I'd get a lot more work done if I could get ahold of some libido-x. But anyway, my pecker works like friggin' clockwork and I've used ephedrine for years. Maybe less unexpected boners but that's about it.

 

[Mike P.T.]

both ephedrine & caffiene are vasconstrictors. they shrink up blood vessels. ie the opposite of what an erection works on, and the opposite of what drugs/supps like viagra/no2/arginine/cialis/yohimbine do.

if you split the eca into component parts (separate ephed caff asp), i think the ephed is worst, follwed by caff. asperin doesn't have any effect.

for fat loss esp in estrogen-sensitive areas without weakened erections either topical yohimbe (yohimburn) or pill form. this boosts erections as well.

Yup.

Luckily for me though I never get that problem when using any eca based stack.

 

[UA_Iron]

In all my stimulant binges, I mean cycles, I have never had any issues with getting hard as a rock. Dont know if you guys wanted to know that but just had to give my input. It's one of those things that affects each person differently.

 

[The Terminator]

Yup.

Luckily for me though I never get that problem when using any eca based stack.

ECA kills mine

 

[zziggzzigg]

libido is affected by serotonin and dopamine levels in the brain, and ephedrine also affects these, so this could be a possible mechanism to examine as well

 

[JerseyDevil]

Re: Re: I dont understand?? How does ECA supposedly destroy your libido and wood?

Any type of stimulant, whether it be thermo products or cocaine will have an adverse effect on erectile function.

they also have an effect on cortisol levels. I see that people take clen during PCT to lower cortisol levels in their blood. clen, like the other CNS's, will raise cortisol not lower it.

 

[gymmeister]

In all my stimulant binges, I mean cycles, I have never had any issues with getting hard as a rock. Dont know if you guys wanted to know that but just had to give my input. It's one of those things that affects each person differently.

As far as "stimulant binges" are concerned, you've probably never done coke (I hope you haven't and don't ever try it if you haven't already!) because if you had done coke, then at one time or another you would have experienced waht is known as "coke dick".

 

[gymmeister]

libido is affected by serotonin and dopamine levels in the brain, and ephedrine also affects these, so this could be a possible mechanism to examine as well

I do not beleive that an ECA staock has any measurable effect whatsoever on the Seratonin system. It is proprably so small it not even worth mentioning and would not be measurable.

Much stronger CNS's like Adderall (a combination of 4 types of Amphetamines) will have some spillover effect and will cause a very, very saamll release of Seratonin into the synapse, but not enough to appreciably depelete Seratonin levels to the likes of MDMA or any of it's relatives. For example, the high you would feel off of Adderall would be from the much more resilient and much easier replenished Dopamine system.

Erectile disfunction from CNS's is primarliy from vasoconstriction as geo-boy first mentioned. Tha's why many times when on an ECA stack or when taking Adderall (or any Amphetamines) or coke, your fingers and toes will get very cold from the vasoconstriction. This vasoconstriction also effects the brain. When taking Addrerall or coke, studies have shown that oxygen levels to the brain are decreased by about 30%. Scary, scary shit and yet we prescribe kids and adults Adderall all the time for ADD/ADHD.

 

[Mavy]

Good info gymmeister!

 

[satchboogie]

efedrine hcl will most certainly run you limp.

try it and see for yourself.

 

[FlexManning]

efedrine hcl will most certainly run you limp.

try it and see for yourself.

Again though, I've had sex hundreds and hundreds of times while using ephedrine and never noticed a problem. Hell, I banged my wife like 4 hours ago after popping ephedrine. Although a few people seem to be sensitive to this type of thing (many, many drugs can bring this on in certain circumstances, even liquor can), between me and several other guys that have stated the same we've probably had sex thousands of times with no problem. If it was that huge of a deal you'd think it would turn up more consistently.

Of course I've honestly never had an impotence problem, so perhaps someone who did would be more prone. The only time I ever had a problem was once when I went soft after getting razzled trying to open a condom package in the dark and I wasn't using anything then.

 

[Mavy]

Thats OK ... I'll take your word on it Satch!

I'll let you have those embarrassing moments all to yourself! hahah

Mavy

 

[Trickie]

Ephredrine WILL affect your erections..... I was taking it 4-5 times a week at the end of a course and I crashed badly, my immune system was totally fucked, no libido at all, taking Ephredrine made it worse....NEVER again!! I'll just use it once in a while when I'm on but not after I've finished a course. Took 4-5 months to get back to normal.

 

[Mavy]

Ephredrine WILL affect your erections..... I was taking it 4-5 times a week at the end of a course and I crashed badly, my immune system was totally fucked, no libido at all, taking Ephredrine made it worse....NEVER again!! I'll just use it once in a while when I'm on but not after I've finished a course. Took 4-5 months to get back to normal.

Damn!