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I am so happy today

VictorBR

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I few days ago I posted this thread :

" http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=336344 "

I was saying that I was totally addicted to ephedrine and I have been using it for 4 straight years . Ok , I decided to stop it last week and was reaaally feeling like shit , no energy at all , sleeping the whole day and still feeling tired .

Now, why Is that I never stoped the ephedrine before ? BEcause I thought that it helped A LOT with my intensity on the gym , in fact I thought that I would have 50 % less intensity without using it , so I kept using it year after year , but it was just a placebo effect because it was not working anymore , I took the comps and then ; OH now I am superman , and in fact the comps were not doing anything for me at all , after such long time using them , they were just not working at all .

Well , I am still feeling kinda lethargyc the whole day but today was my first REAL workout without ephedrine . Intensity was there 100 % . Actually I was kinda shocked how heavy I could go today and how focused I was . I was literally grunting and almost screaming in all reps and sweating like a pig already in the first minutes ....

I was like : WTF ??? Can I do all this shit without the ECA ?

well , YES I CAN . Because I discovered today that my intensity is on MY MIND , not in some stupid comp .

I am sooo happy to see that I don't need this shit to workout . I will probably never use it again , maybe only for fat loss porpuses for 4 weeks max .


Victor
 
thx bro , yeah that is what I am gonna do .

The point is I was using the shit as a stimulant when In fact I don''t NEED IT .
I don't need a stimulant to have my awesome workouts , because the intensity is all inside my mind . I thought it came from the ephedrine but I was wrong . It comes from inside me .


For now on , I will only use it for FAT LOSS , so for short periods of time .


Victor
 
yeah I am gonna take some coffe here and there ....Caffeine is fine .

The problem is really the ephedrine .


Victor
 
for about 2.5 years i was on exnadrine rfa-1/clenbutreux/ and miscelaneous ephedra stacks the whole time...when i came off i puked for 2 days and had the worth caffine headache for a week...i also came off cold
 
Glad to hear this. I have been using the ECA for too long as well, though not as long as you. I'll have just a little more left after the off weeks of my clen cycle, and I have been worrying about how I would get long without it.

I work a night hours at a VERY physical job, and boy, do those little pills come in handy...

Anyway, glad to hear you could still get there. K to you!
 
I had the same problem. I was working Monday through Saturday and some Sundays. I would leave the house at 6am and get to the gym at 10:30pm. I was putting down 100mgs of ephedra a day easy. It stopped working too.
I decided to quit the job and stop consuming ephedra. It was tough at first... but... I started feeling good again. Now I brew up some grean tea and take it with ginseng. you don't getthe buzz but you still get some stimulation. I have been getting lean w/out cardio too.
Congrats on kicking the habbit!
 
thanks a lot guys .

Golden delicious , one question bro .

Since I have stopped I gained 8 lbs in a week . GRanted my diet has not been perfect the last week , but also not that bad . I am just eating more .

But I am also sure that this 8 lbs that I have gained are not pure fat . since my waist remains basically the same ( maybe 1 cm + ) , but I am also feeling my muscles fuller , more pumps when working out and all .

So , I stoped the ECA , the clen and all the stimulants , then started to eating more and stoped the aerobics also .

Results : 8 pounds gained , strange thing is that prior to stoping the eca I was using clen + ECA for 2 weeks and I had lost exactly 8 pounds . Then I stoped the clen and the ECA together ( using ECA for 4 years and clen for 2 straight week ) ..... and in one week I have regained those 8 lbs BACK .

But I do think this 8 pounds that I have gained are a mix of fat , glycogen replenishment and water ....

But anyway I feel really bad when I see those 8 pounds BACK on me ....Do you think my thyroid levels are fucked up bro ? I mean , in one week 8 lbs ??? If my thyroid id ultra slow , will it get back to normal soon ? when ? Also , I am afraid that with all this low cal diet for years and ECA and all I have permently fucked my thyroid , that would suck . I can't imagine myself on thyroid treatment for life :(

Georgie , when you stoped did you gain a lot of weight ?


Victor
 
Also I forgot to say that I am eating more because I gotta somehow shock my metabolism ... I think it got used to low cals , and now low cals are not enough for me to lose fat ......

See , a diet that would WORK for me to lose fat a few years ago IS not working anymore nowadays ....I was eating 2500 cals a day + intense training ED and still not losing any fat . A few years ago I could easily shed a LOT of fat with this kinda diet ...

I lose those 8 lbs when taking the clen but now I have regained it ?

That is why I am asking if there is nothing wrong with my thyroid ...I just
can't seem to lose more fat ....And now , I gained 8 lbs in one week ....

what do you think bro ?


Victor
 
unlikely to be thyroid. very much so. i expect it to be transient, really. probably something to do with upset hormones, electrolytes, and fluid. wait a few weeks, reassess. the pumps and full muscles are an excellent sign though.

chill. wait it out a bit. reassess in a while. youve done the right thing one way or another - you cant stay on the drugs indefinitely. so accept what is happening, and also, be happy that it is very likely to be a good thing

cheers
 
GoldenDelicious said:
unlikely to be thyroid. very much so. i expect it to be transient, really. probably something to do with upset hormones, electrolytes, and fluid. wait a few weeks, reassess. the pumps and full muscles are an excellent sign though.

chill. wait it out a bit. reassess in a while. youve done the right thing one way or another - you cant stay on the drugs indefinitely. so accept what is happening, and also, be happy that it is very likely to be a good thing

cheers
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>>>> thx a lot bro , so you don't think it is my thyroid ? But why is that I was not beeing able to lose fat on a diet that would make me ripped a few years ago ?

Also why do you say the pumps and full muscles are a good sign ? My pumps have really increased a LOT this week , In fact I got pumps that I did not had since my last cycle ( 2001 ) .....

And what do you mean by transient ? ( I don't know this word ) Damn I need to go back to my english classes :p


thanks bro


Victor
 
unlikely to be thyroid. very much so. i expect it to be transient, really. probably something to do with upset hormones, electrolytes, and fluid. wait a few weeks, reassess. the pumps and full muscles are an excellent sign though.

chill. wait it out a bit. reassess in a while. youve done the right thing one way or another - you cant stay on the drugs indefinitely. so accept what is happening, and also, be happy that it is very likely to be a good thing

cheers
 
Your body was probably in a catabolic state for a long time. ECA killed my appetite bad, and that might have caused it. When you remain in a catabolic state for too long, your body up-regulates receptor sites to store and utilize every possible nutrient within metabolically active tissue(muscle). The body will take about 14-21 days before homeostasis is restored, so up your protein and reap the benefits of this survival mechanism. This is all straight from BTPB by L. Rea, so I'm not pulling this out of my ass.
 
BTW...your happy...I'm happy. Just lay off of the shit for a long time. Because it is going to fucking rock your world when you come back on the stuff.
 
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