hypothetical question....

[swordfish151]

would you run sustanon only 10wks (250 ONLY mgs a wk) and add dbol (10mgs a day) at the end of the cycle (4 wks) for cutting? how would you accomplish this?

 

[Mr.X]

if you used a lot of anti-Es you'd be able to keep the estrogen down; thus, allowing the full effect of the test...honestly, for cutting, I would use some Test Prop/Fina Winny - instead.

 

[swordfish151]

if you used a lot of anti-Es you'd be able to keep the estrogen down; thus, allowing the full effect of the test...honestly, for cutting, I would use some Test Prop/Fina Winny - instead.

was just wondering though, since there have been so many "Dbol cutting" threads on here...thought that maybe someone could elaborate on how this would be done? thanks for the reply Mr. X!

 

[Makavelli]

was just wondering though, since there have been so many "Dbol cutting" threads on here...thought that maybe someone could elaborate on how this would be done? thanks for the reply Mr. X!

Cutting with D-Bol is easy: Just diet while using it. Also run anti-E's.

 

[Mr.X]

was just wondering though, since there have been so many "Dbol cutting" threads on here...thought that maybe someone could elaborate on how this would be done? thanks for the reply Mr. X!

It's like any AS, you diet/training/sleep and do cardio, then you run your AS and Anti-Es....shouldn't be a problem w/ dbol or sust.

Mr.X

 

[swordfish151]

It's like any AS, you diet/training/sleep and do cardio, then you run your AS and Anti-Es....shouldn't be a problem w/ dbol or sust.

Mr.X

what would the cycle look like
sustanon for 10/wk @ 250mgs/wk
Dbol for 4/wk (end of remaining sust cycle) @ 10mgs/wk
Nolva on hand? a-dex? what other anti-e?

 

[Makavelli]

what would the cycle look like
sustanon for 10/wk @ 250mgs/wk
Dbol for 4/wk (end of remaining sust cycle) @ 10mgs/wk
Nolva on hand? a-dex? what other anti-e?

Bump the test up to 500 mgs/wk and use the D-Bol in the beginning at 25 mgs/day at least. Nolva through out and rimi on hand in case.

 

[swordfish151]

Bump the test up to 500 mgs/wk and use the D-Bol in the beginning at 25 mgs/day at least. Nolva through out and rimi on hand in case.

I would but its my first cycle...just want to do 250mgs a/wk to start..not really sure if im actually going to run the DBOL but just inquiring...

 

[Makavelli]

I would but its my first cycle...just want to do 250mgs a/wk to start..not really sure if im actually going to run the DBOL but just inquiring...

500 mgs/wk is a good starting cycle. 250 is too low. Trust me. You'll be disappointed with the results by only using 250. Use 500 mgs/wk along with the D-bol and you'll be happy.

 

[swordfish151]

500 mgs/wk is a good starting cycle. 250 is too low. Trust me. You'll be disappointed with the results by only using 250. Use 500 mgs/wk along with the D-bol and you'll be happy.

I understand that my gains wont be as much as being on 500mgs, but im willing to be patient..want to test out the product first then take it from there..

 

[Mr.X]

what would the cycle look like
sustanon for 10/wk @ 250mgs/wk
Dbol for 4/wk (end of remaining sust cycle) @ 10mgs/wk
Nolva on hand? a-dex? what other anti-e?

Weeks:
1-2: Load sust250 500mg/WK
3-8: Sust 250mg/WK

1-6: 20mg ED Dbol

1mg Arimidex ED
25mg of Nolvadex EOD (yes when cutting I always suggest adding nolva)

PCT:
I'd run some clomid, arimidex and some light dose of clen

P.S. this is by far not my ideal cycle, I'm just going off from what you gave me here

Mr.X

 

[swordfish151]

Weeks:
1-2: Load sust250 500mg/WK
3-8: Sust 250mg/WK

1-6: 20mg ED Dbol

1mg Arimidex ED
25mg of Nolvadex EOD (yes when cutting I always suggest adding nolva)

PCT:
I'd run some clomid, arimidex and some light dose of clen

P.S. this is by far not my ideal cycle, I'm just going off from what you gave me here

Mr.X

yeah i know what you mean, not really what im going to do...i guess i just wanted some input on it..think that maybe i just might run that as my second cycle...going to run sust at 250mgs for 10/wk nolva on hand and HCG+nolva for PCT

 

[BIGJAKE]

would you run sustanon only 10wks (250 ONLY mgs a wk) and add dbol (10mgs a day) at the end of the cycle (4 wks) for cutting? how would you accomplish this?

if i am reading this right no i would not add the d-bol at the end at 10mg.any AAS can be used as a cutting agent with diet proper anti and cardio.there is nothing wrong with 250mg of sus in your first run to test the waters.

 

[swordfish151]

if i am reading this right no i would not add the d-bol at the end at 10mg.any AAS can be used as a cutting agent with diet proper anti and cardio.there is nothing wrong with 250mg of sus in your first run to test the waters.

you think i could cut with sust? i mean i know generally people do there first cycle to bulk up, but what if you wanted to experiment and see what it would lead to if you used it to cut?? i mean everyone says you should have a low BF before you start any cycle....does this hold true if you want to use it to cut??

 

[swordfish151]

you think i could cut with sust? i mean i know generally people do there first cycle to bulk up, but what if you wanted to experiment and see what it would lead to if you used it to cut?? i mean everyone says you should have a low BF before you start any cycle....does this hold true if you want to use it to cut??

^

 

[benny1970]

Just wondering, if he is only doing 250mg of sust per week, how would he want to split it up? Just one shot per week, or divide it up into two 125mg shots, like Mon. & Thurs.? On something like this, would it be OK to run .5mg arimi ed, and just keep nolva on hand in case?

 

[swordfish151]

Just wondering, if he is only doing 250mg of sust per week, how would he want to split it up? Just one shot per week, or divide it up into two 125mg shots, like Mon. & Thurs.? On something like this, would it be OK to run .5mg arimi ed, and just keep nolva on hand in case?

one shot per wk is ok, no need to split it up at all..especially if your just doing 250mgs a wk.

 

[benny1970]

one shot per wk is ok, no need to split it up at all..especially if your just doing 250mgs a wk.

See, I dunno. I've been reading these boards for a while, and some people seem to think that because of the faster esters (proper terminology?) in sust, waiting 6-7 days between shots causes your test levels to be constantly fluctuating.
Anyone?

 

[silverbackn]

500 mgs/wk is a good starting cycle. 250 is too low. Trust me. You'll be disappointed with the results by only using 250. Use 500 mgs/wk along with the D-bol and you'll be happy.

I agree. I hit 500 test and 300 deca on my first cycle and got up over 250 at 6'1. Obviously some of that was fat and water, but I still had visible abs.

 

[swordfish151]

I agree. I hit 500 test and 300 deca on my first cycle and got up over 250 at 6'1. Obviously some of that was fat and water, but I still had visible abs.

may be true, but im considering using it as a cutting agent.

 

[silverbackn]

may be true, but im considering using it as a cutting agent.

My personal opinion is that you shouldn't use your first cycle as a cutter, that's like getting nitrous in your car and putting it on a go-cart track.

 

[swordfish151]

My personal opinion is that you shouldn't use your first cycle as a cutter, that's like getting nitrous in your car and putting it on a go-cart track.

lol...good analogy..yeah i think you might be right...im just having a hard time getting this BF down....

 

[bikebod]

lol...good analogy..yeah i think you might be right...im just having a hard time getting this BF down....

What are your current stats and what is your goal with a cycle?

 

[swordfish151]

What are your current stats and what is your goal with a cycle?

current 18% bf down from 21%, i originally i wanted to get down to 14%..on my first cycle, simple gains..not expecting to much, just wanting to see where it leads me with proper diet and training..been training now for 10years...currently 26, 18%BF 5'6