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well guys, i too have spent my obligatory $1000 bucks on supps and prohormones and am fed up with every new hype that comes along. So i decided to try to real juice. As this is gonna be my first cycle, and i have no first hand experience with AS. I'm gonna try and plan a good cycle with your help bro's.

My plan so far is something like this:
week----------Test--------EQ-------DBol-------Winny

week 1-------1000--------500-------50/ed------0-----
week 2-------500---------250-------50/eod-----0-----
week 3-------500---------250-------50/eod-----0-----
week 4-------500---------250-------50/eod-----0-----
week 5-------500---------250-------0------------0-----
week 6-------500---------250-------0------------0-----
week 7-------500---------250-------0------------0-----
week 8-------500---------250-------0------------50/ed
week 9-------500---------250-------0------------50/ed
week 10-----500---------250-------0------------50/ed

week 12,13,14 Clomid of course 12@ 100/ed 13,14@50/ed

How does this sound to you guys?

A couple of qeustions that i have are:
- I'm think of useing sust as the test. Is this good or should i go single ester.
- I definetly want to use a very clean injectable. I just really wanna be safe, what are your experiences with injectables
from the source in china, or should i just go organon test and whats a good comp for eq?
-Double the eq dose?
-Arimidex and nolva?
-And how much better would it be to witch to a shorter acting ester in the last week.

Sheezzz a lot of questions huh. Anyway i just want to be sure that im doing this shit right.

My stats are 22 years old, 185 pounds, 12-13% bf, FIRST cycle.
My goals are add 20 pounds keep mayb 15 stay roughly same bf.


Guys your help would be greatly appreciated.
 
If this is your first cycle, there are some changes I would make to your cycle.

First off, wait on frontloading. I don't think this is something to do your first time out. You need to see how your body reacts first.

Secondly, the dbol dose is too high. Start at 30mg/day. And don't do it eod, keep it daily for the first 4-5 weeks.

On the eq, skip the frontload and up it to 400mg/week. If you can, I would up it to 600mg/week.

I would use a single ester test over sust. Also, the eq will stick with you for 3 weeks, so you will want to wait another week before you start the clomid.

Since you don't know how your body reacts to test, you better have some arimidex or nolvadex handy. For instance, if I did 10 weeks of test at 500mg/week I'd have me a nice set o' titties without some form of anti-estrogen.

As for switching to a shorter ester test...just keep it simple the first time out. In fact, you really don't need the winny.

Good luck.
 
yeah i was wondering if i should double the eq. But that would take me to a gram a week. isnt that a bit much for first cycle?Or is it the fact the eq is relatively mild which makes that ok?
 
If you want to keep it simple. This is my first cycle I am on at the moment.

Sus500mg wk 1-10
Fina 75mg ED wk 6-12

Im in my 8th week and up 30lbs of LBM w/a decrease in bf%
My next one I would like to go with a shorter acting test but the sus has worked for me so far.

Just my .02

Chuck
 
txlonghorn

txlonghorn nailed it on the head follow his advice and youl do fine ps i think tx made a lucky guess on your cycle :rolleyes: lol
 
THANKS tx, ok i revised my cycle to your advice it now looks like this.

week----------Test E--------EQ-------DBol-------Winny-----Clomid

week 1-------500---------600-------30/ed------0-------------0------
week 2-------500---------600-------30/ed------0-------------0------
week 3-------500---------600-------30/ed------0-------------0------
week 4-------500---------600-------30/ed------0-------------0------
week 5-------500---------600-------0------------0-------------0------
week 6-------500---------600-------0------------0-------------0------
week 7-------500---------600-------0------------0-------------0------
week 8-------500---------600-------0-----------50/ed--------0------
week 9-------500---------600-------0-----------50/ed--------0------
week 10------500---------600-------0----------50/ed---------0------
week 11---------------------------------------------------------------
week 12----------------------------------------------------------------
week 13----------------------------------------------------------100----
week 14-----------------------------------------------------------50-----


Mind if i keep the winny in i would like to see how i react to it. Plan on using it in a cutting cycle later in the year.I went for enanthate. And ill get some armi, how much should i get to make sure i dont grow some baywatch titties :p

Chuck thanks for the advice, but i dont wanna go with the fina yet. I just cant seem to get any injectable tren.

more advice would be appreciated bro's
 
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