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Read aas forum rules. Anyone inquiring about aas use must first post stats.
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Weight
Height
Body fat
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Training experience.
We don't advise anyone less than 21 in the use of aas. For your question, any steroid will shutdown your body after a month. Some are more harsh than others, and everyone will respond differently. But, either way you go your still shutdown period, and will need a solid pct to get your body functioning again. Without pct your body can recover on its own, but it will take longer and you will lose all your gains and then some. You can't avoid the inevitable, but you can come prepared and improve your chances of success. Use hcg or hcgenerate on cycle to kickstart your testes and the transition to recovery will be a lot smoother.
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Age
Weight
Height
Body fat
Cycle history
Training experience.
We don't advise anyone less than 21 in the use of aas. For your question, any steroid will shutdown your body after a month. Some are more harsh than others, and everyone will respond differently. But, either way you go your still shutdown period, and will need a solid pct to get your body functioning again. Without pct your body can recover on its own, but it will take longer and you will lose all your gains and then some. You can't avoid the inevitable, but you can come prepared and improve your chances of success. Use hcg or hcgenerate on cycle to kickstart your testes and the transition to recovery will be a lot smoother.
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Neither are hard to recover from it just takes time and a good pct.
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Don't over think it, its simple, time on + pct= time off. If you run a 12 week test e cycle, it would be a total of 18 weeks. So wait 18 weeks after and cycle again.
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all AAS are suppressive. the longer you stay on the more suppressed you will become. once the LH goes to .1 then that is as shutdown as you can get. and you will stay there until the AAS is fully out of your system and your body figures out that it needs to start producing its own hormones. a PCT will kind of trick the body into doing it sooner.
which AAS are more suppressive? the ones that hit you quicker with shorter esters will logically suppress you faster, as they reach peak levels in the body sooner than longer esters. in my experience testosterone is severely suppressive, and tren is fast to suppress you. some guys think their libido is contingent on being 'shutdown or suppressed' .. this is false and broscience myth. you can have raisin nuts, have an LH at .1 and still be a horn dog. and you can have plump nuts and a functioning HPTA and have no libido. there are too many factors to consider
this is why younger guys are encouraged to wait to use hormones till they are older. because the longer you wait to put extra hormones into your body the better. when you do run a cycle I am a believer that keeping it at 12 weeks or less will make it easier to recover then running a 20 or 25 weeker. ask anyone who has run a 6 month cycle for example how recovery was. it usually isn't very fun.
and finally in the year 2012 you should definately take hcgenerate during cycle to keep your nuts plump and functioning, will make recovery a breeze. you don't have to let your nuts turn to raisins like in the old days. take advantage!
which AAS are more suppressive? the ones that hit you quicker with shorter esters will logically suppress you faster, as they reach peak levels in the body sooner than longer esters. in my experience testosterone is severely suppressive, and tren is fast to suppress you. some guys think their libido is contingent on being 'shutdown or suppressed' .. this is false and broscience myth. you can have raisin nuts, have an LH at .1 and still be a horn dog. and you can have plump nuts and a functioning HPTA and have no libido. there are too many factors to consider
this is why younger guys are encouraged to wait to use hormones till they are older. because the longer you wait to put extra hormones into your body the better. when you do run a cycle I am a believer that keeping it at 12 weeks or less will make it easier to recover then running a 20 or 25 weeker. ask anyone who has run a 6 month cycle for example how recovery was. it usually isn't very fun.
and finally in the year 2012 you should definately take hcgenerate during cycle to keep your nuts plump and functioning, will make recovery a breeze. you don't have to let your nuts turn to raisins like in the old days. take advantage!
The suppression of steroids has almost become irrelevant since cycles now far exceed the way they were intended and originally implemented. Sure, after 6 weeks of 500 mgs of test, you'll be more suppressed than 6 weeks of 500 weeks of Primo. But once dosages get higher than that and it gets into 10, 12, 16 weeks, it doesn;t matter. At that point, you're shut down no matter what.
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Most all AAS will supress the natural HPTA to some degree.
thxfor all the answers, i want to start a cycle but am not sure what
1-10 test e 250mg
1-4 anavar 40mg
5-9 Hcg 1000UI week
7-9 anavar 40mg
10-10 anavar 60mg
or
a mix og masteron, EQ and primo all at 200mg week ??? 10-12 weeks ?
I am looking for strenght mostly, not so much mass
1-10 test e 250mg
1-4 anavar 40mg
5-9 Hcg 1000UI week
7-9 anavar 40mg
10-10 anavar 60mg
or
a mix og masteron, EQ and primo all at 200mg week ??? 10-12 weeks ?
I am looking for strenght mostly, not so much mass
if your body fat is not under 10% then there is no point to run masteron...
i would just keep it more simple and just do test and anavar...
eq needs to be ran 16 weeks and primo would need to be ran at least 14 weeks...
how many cycles have you ran before?
I have done 3 cycles of Tbol only and now number 4 tbol and winny stack, so never done the jabbing thing. I cant find any info about masteron and strenght ??? is it any good ?? and yes i am about 8-9% BF what is best for strenght, and dont say tren lol im not ready for that yet
gymjunkie09
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Anavar is best for strenght and lean gains...beastdrol is good as well but will put some more mass on you
run the var 6 straight weeks instead of splitting it up like that. once it reaches peak levels in the body around 10-14 days into it you will start getting strength increases assuming its legit
and run it at 50-60mg a day.
also i am assuming you have pct and support supps on hand during right? definately want to run n2guard and hcgenerate during that cycle
i would run test e for 12 weeks... as steve said, do not split up the anavar... if you feel you need a kickstart then run tbol the first four weeks... it would look like this...
1-12 test e 500 mg / wk
1-4 tbol 60 mg day
1-12 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
8-14 hcg or hcgenerate
9-14 anavar 60 mg day
9-14 n2guard
pct
clomid
unleashed/post cycle combo
forma stanzol
That seems like a lot of HCG. How are you going to split it? 500mg 2 x's per week? I would go lower. 250mg 2 consecutive days each week.
-db-
i agree with this... there is no need to be using more than 500 ius a week
