how's this for a first cycle?

[batgirl]

this is for my guy. Wk. 1-7 test enan. at 250m a week. Wk. 1-3 winny at 25mg ED then off for 3 weeks and wk7-9 winny and a day or two after last winny dose start clomid. thsi will be a low dose cycle since he doesn't want big dose for his first cycle since we noticed many people gain descent results off low dose for first cycle.

 

[batgirl]

bump

 

[graffixx]

i dont know about winnie to much but i heard it takes 3 wks before it starts working and i would add dbol to on the pyramid cycle 23455432 but check on the winnie i dont use it because i have a real high metabolism and dont need to cut

 

[Audio8]

goals?
stats?

He probably has a pre-conception that steroids will make him very huge very fast....he needs to realize that this is not the case. I would tell him to take advantage of his fresh receptors and do a moderate cycle like this:

enanth------500mgs-----weeks 1-8
winny--------50mg ED----weeks 4-8

Clomid----300,100,50----weeks 11-14

could even run the winny out a little more if he wants.

 

[batgirl]

he wants just to jump start strength and get a nice little body his 185 5'10 basically want to improve strength and endurance

 

[Strong_Man20]

i dont know about winnie to much but i heard it takes 3 wks before it starts working and i would add dbol to on the pyramid cycle 23455432 but check on the winnie i dont use it because i have a real high metabolism and dont need to cut

for me it kicked in the next day, and I got a hell of allot stronger after 7 days!!

 

[Beezers]

Honestly, at 5'10 185 I think he can accomplish his goals without AS. Such low doses will have limited effect that could more than likely be achieved through alterations in diet and training. IMO, it's not worth the time or money to run a cycle like this. If he's going to do it he might as well have something to show for it. This is not to say he won't progress with this planed cycle. Gains will be minimal and probably leave him rather disapointed. Test/winny is a fine choice, but it would be well advised to increase the doses. Common practice for winny is 50mg/daily. A modest, yet more productive cycle could look like this.

Test weeks 1-8 250mg/wk
winny weeks 1-6 50mg/day

Still mild doses, but it is more than was planed. I would suggest test at a minimum of 500mg, though I do think he can make decent gains with 250mg/wk along with the winy at 50mg/day. If he doesn't want to get big then he really has no need for AS to acheive his goals. At 5'10 he can carry a lot more weight, undoubtedly, before he gets to big for himself...That is if his goals are'nt to get as big as possible.

 

[Rickson]

Audio has a good first cycle. If he wants to jump start his strength have him run d-bol at 40 mg weeks 1-4 and winny weeks 5-10 at 50 mg. Definetely up the test to 500 mg a week.

 

[manny78]

goals?
stats?

He probably has a pre-conception that steroids will make him very huge very fast....he needs to realize that this is not the case. I would tell him to take advantage of his fresh receptors and do a moderate cycle like this:

enanth------500mgs-----weeks 1-8
winny--------50mg ED----weeks 4-8

Clomid----300,100,50----weeks 11-14

could even run the winny out a little more if he wants.

I like that cycle, but may I add some Dbols ? 25 mg ED week 1-4 then winny ? Also have some novaldex on hand.