hows this cycle look

[meathead1216]

I try to eat around 4,000 to 5,000 cals and cant gain a pound. I eat clean food like turkey, chicken, tuna, oatmeal, protein shakes, and a few other things as well.

 

[Silent Method]

Ive been liftin for about 2 1/2 years now, i am a hardgainer.

If you've passed yourself off as a hard gainer after you're first 2.5 years, I'm curious to learn of the dozens of training protocols you have used and assessed, as well as the timing patterns of the training cycles.


Look, I'm telling you that you have A LOT TO LEARN! This is not a slam in any way - in fact, it is the opposite of a slam. Put your head and heart into what your are seeking - the end goal, not the drugs - and you will be unstoppable.

Build yourself into a shreaded 180 pounds with no drugs. Take it from there. That's my advice. Are you tough enough to do it? Do you have what it takes?

 

[thx9000]

I try to eat around 4,000 to 5,000 cals and cant gain a pound. I eat clean food like turkey, chicken, tuna, oatmeal, protein shakes, and a few other things as well.

Don't forget LOTS of carbs too. If you have a tough time gaining lean mass you probably don't have to worry to much about fat either. What does your whole diet look like? Today for instance...

How do you train? What training style are you using? What's worked what didn't?

 

[Paulos]

If he's going to cycle he's going to cycle, I wouldn't listen to anyone either when I began and I used too much too soon.

If you're determined on using AAS at least drop the Fina and use a longer acting test like Enanthate.

How about something like this man...

Test @ 500mg Wk Weeks 1-10

If you MUST add something else...

Dbol @ 20-30mg/ED Weeks 1-4

OR

Equipoise @ 400mg/Wk Weeks 1-10

OR

Deca @ 300mg/Wk Weeks 1-10



There is no need to stack THREE drugs on a first cycle, you don't even need two.

My last cycle was 500mg EQ with 300mg Deca for 10 weeks....I made great gains.

 

[magman1]

if you are determined which i am sure you are, drop the tren at least...hit test/dbol....forget about eating clean...at 162, you can use all the weight you can get...

 

[satchboogie]

2 young.

 

[meathead1216]

I like to train 4-5days a week with mid to high intensity. I usually do 3-4 sets depending on the exercise. THis would be my second cycle. I guess im think about droppin the fina, but i still gotta think about it.