How to avoid Tren sides...

[krishna]

Don't know if you guys read my post about a month or two ago but I already went through all this bullshit. I did a tren only cycle just to see if I had any hairloss. I only did it four and a half weeks and my hair was jumping off my head around week four and five. I'm not new to this game, done almost everything and only recently having hair problems. I was on spiro, nizoral, minoxidil, and polysorbate 80 at the time of the tren cycle and that shit still made my hair fall out. Now deca is the absolute best as far as I have seen. I always had a problem with test of course and now I'm on finasteride which is working wonders at 2.5 mg. per day. I just hate the fact that I can't do deca while taking this stuff. I would love to know if that is myth or fact. Bottom line about tren, it's a harsh steroid, hence all the other sides. Don't see why it would be any easier on the hair than it is on the rest of the body.

Was it MPB or TE? There was actually a poll posted recently about tren and hair loss. Most responded that it didn't harm their hair. I am currently on tren right now and I think it sparked a mild case of TE. I've had years of experience with Saw Palmetto extract, along with vast amounts of research on it (I probably know everything about it that current research will allow). I recently just hopped on it again to see if it would help because I'm on test also, and 5ar inhibitors have no effect either way on tren use, so it couldn't hurt. Anyway, I was pulling at my hair all day today, and the shedding seems to have been neutralized. I've also completely lost any libido that I had left, and I can urinate way better. I swear I could feel the tension of the heavy androgens cease after starting on the Saw Palmetto again. I'll probably lose some of the benefits like libido and some muscle hardening, but it's worth keeping my hair. Saw Palmetto is a peculiar compound.

 

[Mavafanculo]

Shave your head and grow a goatee.

Or shave your ass and learn to walk on your hands.
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[Mavafanculo]

Was it MPB or TE? There was actually a poll posted recently about tren and hair loss. Most responded that it didn't harm their hair. I am currently on tren right now and I think it sparked a mild case of TE. I've had years of experience with Saw Palmetto extract, along with vast amounts of research on it (I probably know everything about it that current research will allow). I recently just hopped on it again to see if it would help because I'm on test also, and 5ar inhibitors have no effect either way on tren use, so it couldn't hurt. Anyway, I was pulling at my hair all day today, and the shedding seems to have been neutralized. I've also completely lost any libido that I had left, and I can urinate way better. I swear I could feel the tension of the heavy androgens cease after starting on the Saw Palmetto again. I'll probably lose some of the benefits like libido and some muscle hardening, but it's worth keeping my hair. Saw Palmetto is a peculiar compound.

thats interesting -

whats the brand and dose of the SP? I'm scared shitless of trying the Tren for hair reasons.

 

[jumpshot]

Was it MPB or TE? There was actually a poll posted recently about tren and hair loss. Most responded that it didn't harm their hair. I am currently on tren right now and I think it sparked a mild case of TE. I've had years of experience with Saw Palmetto extract, along with vast amounts of research on it (I probably know everything about it that current research will allow). I recently just hopped on it again to see if it would help because I'm on test also, and 5ar inhibitors have no effect either way on tren use, so it couldn't hurt. Anyway, I was pulling at my hair all day today, and the shedding seems to have been neutralized. I've also completely lost any libido that I had left, and I can urinate way better. I swear I could feel the tension of the heavy androgens cease after starting on the Saw Palmetto again. I'll probably lose some of the benefits like libido and some muscle hardening, but it's worth keeping my hair. Saw Palmetto is a peculiar compound.

Now that is interesting. 5 weeks into 250/wk sust and having recently upped it to e5d (before I got hurt) I honestly haven't seen any of this super-horny-on-test stuff...nothing more than usual...and I take 2 Saw Pal caps per day. Is there a correlation? Can you provide more info Krishna?

 

[krishna]

thats interesting -

whats the brand and dose of the SP? I'm scared shitless of trying the Tren for hair reasons.

The recommended dose, which is also the most common dose done in research, is 160mg extract twice a day (320mg total). Make sure it is at least 80% fatty acids/sterols. I take it with test and have no hair loss whatsoever.

 

[krishna]

Now that is interesting. 5 weeks into 250/wk sust and having recently upped it to e5d (before I got hurt) I honestly haven't seen any of this super-horny-on-test stuff...nothing more than usual...and I take 2 Saw Pal caps per day. Is there a correlation? Can you provide more info Krishna?

There is a possibility of a decreased libido while using Saw Palmetto. The research evidence isn't very conclusive on this matter, but through one of its possible mode of actions, it's definitely a possibility. I notice less of a libido when I'm on it. If I take test without it, I get super horney, but if I take test with it, it seems average or slightly below average. I posted another thread for Saw Palmetto users to see if I can add to my knowledge of it from other users' personal experience. Most research has been restricted to it's treatment for BPH. You should post your experience on my thread.

 

[tical]

Can you take saw palmetto with anything? Nandrolones, etc?

 

[glennds]

i love tren but will only use in winter months. the night sweats combined with summer heat and humidity are too much. here in san diego it only gets REALLY hot in august and september and most of us do not have central AC unless you live inland.

 

[krishna]

Can you take saw palmetto with anything? Nandrolones, etc?

It has shown to be a mild inhibitor of 5ar enzyme so based on that I would say no, but it seems to have other modes of action that possibly help with hair loss and BPH such as androgen reuptake and blocking receptors. It may also have some nonhormonal functioning in these areas. With that said, I would say yes. It's kind of a toss up on taking it with deca. It is safe to take with any other gear though. Deca alone is actually very mild for the hair if you don't take propecia with it. This is because it limits lowers your test production, which lowers DHT. It also competes for the 5ar enzyme and reduces to a very mild androgen called dehydronandrolone (DHN).

 

[krishna]

i love tren but will only use in winter months. the night sweats combined with summer heat and humidity are too much. here in san diego it only gets REALLY hot in august and september and most of us do not have central AC unless you live inland.

No shit dude! My central air unit broke the other day and they can't fix it til tomorrow. I was drenched in sweat last night, and am sitting here with sweat pouning down my face as I type.