How to avoid EQ hairloss???

[Izzman]

My friend just finished running test enan 500 mgs week and experienced hardly any hair loss, and was taking finasteride while runnin the test. He is prone to male pattern baldness however, and wants to know if EQ will cause shedding, and if it does, can he take finasteride with EQ or sumtin else like propecia to prevent shedding? Is EQ similiar in nature more to test or deca because if its similiar to deca, shouldnt he avoid runnin EQ with finasteride?

 

[CENTURION44]

NIZORAL Shampoo....

 

[krishna]

EQ is a tricky one - it's mild for some, and very harsh for others. There is no biochemistry that suggest finasteride will do anything to prevent it one way or the other as EQ's interaction with the 5ar enzyme is minimal at most. He's just gonna have to hope he's one of the lucky ones.

 

[Ulter]

I agree with jrc Nizoral 2% and add proscar. That will slow it considerably.

 

[krishna]

I agree with jrc Nizoral 2% and add proscar. That will slow it considerably.

Like I said, EQ is reduced in very minimal amounts. Taking proscar will hardly make a difference. Nizoral could help though.

 

[Little Boy]

Where can one get nizoral 2%?

Reason I won't be using EQ for my first cycle is beacuse I've heard EQ can make some go bald, and proscar can't block that!

 

[Ulter]

www.smart-drugs.net

 

[JoNeS]

Where can one get nizoral 2%?

Reason I won't be using EQ for my first cycle is beacuse I've heard EQ can make some go bald, and proscar can't block that!

Walgreens.

 

[LVTitan]

been on eq for 9 weeks, no shedding at all, it's still thick as ever.

 

[tommboy]

Is proscar finasteride????? if so same dosage? 1 mg??? Will it have reverse effects on hair loss while takeing EQ as it would if u were to take deca or tren with it or no?

 

[cop]

guys i did a cycle of 400mg EQ with dutasteride and nizoral shampoo,minoxidil.....was still shedding like crazy...it was BD eq

 

[under]

Does propecia stop hair loss, if suffering with MPB whilst taking test e, etc

 

[facethepain]

I am currently running Test E@500/wk. and EQ@600/wk. If hair loss happens, when will it start? I'm in my 3rd wk. now.

 

[CENTURION44]

Does propecia stop hair loss, if suffering with MPB whilst taking test e, etc

propecia is finasteride....

 

[bigmusclehead]

I am currently running Test E@500/wk. and EQ@600/wk. If hair loss happens, when will it start? I'm in my 3rd wk. now.

never known eq to cause any hair loss problem.

 

[krishna]

guys i did a cycle of 400mg EQ with dutasteride and nizoral shampoo,minoxidil.....was still shedding like crazy...it was BD eq

Ya like I said, propecia will not help hair loss with EQ. Nizoral and minoxidol can help but don't work that well anyway. If you're one of the unlucky ones with EQ, there's not much you can do to stop it.

 

[auswalk]

guys i did a cycle of 400mg EQ with dutasteride and nizoral shampoo,minoxidil.....was still shedding like crazy...it was BD eq

Damn. I may have to get off the BD EQ. I am extremely prone to MPB. I took dbol for 10 wks and it did some serious damage. I guess the only thing I can take is sust since Dutasteride can prevent DHT conversion.

I am only on 200mg of EQ which from what I read here doesn't do much anyway.. other than make my hair fall out. My hair is noticeably thinner on top in the last 6 months. Darn. And I heard EQ was good stuff. Oh well. My hair is more valuable.

 

[Razorguns]

Never heard of EQ doing hair loss either.

Test usually -- but tamed with finasteride -- but not eq.

Dbol / fina -- that shit is hardcore on the hair.

 

[concordsize]

im on 800mg eq now going into week4 and my head itches like no other. I have not lost any hair but my scalp seems real dry or something.

 

[turbogreek]

been on eq for 9 weeks, no shedding at all, it's still thick as ever.

 

[auswalk]

Never heard of EQ doing hair loss either.

Test usually -- but tamed with finasteride -- but not eq.

Dbol / fina -- that shit is hardcore on the hair.

I lost a crapload with Dbol while on dustasteride. You saying Dbol is know to be very bad? (compared to EQ).

 

[pits97]

Do not take proscar/propecia with EQ! It will get worse!

 

[Ulter]

No it won't.

 

[krishna]

Do not take proscar/propecia with EQ! It will get worse!

There is no biochemical evidence to support this. EQ is mostly unaffected by proscar use. Either you will lose hair on EQ, or you won't. Proscar has little to no effect on this.

 

[Razorguns]

don't fret guys. EVEN if you lost hair -- it's not permanent and grows right back after your cycle is done.

 

[pits97]

There is no biochemical evidence to support this. EQ is mostly unaffected by proscar use. Either you will lose hair on EQ, or you won't. Proscar has little to no effect on this.

All I can tell you is it did for me. I can tell you this, it definitely won't prevent it.

 

[krishna]

All I can tell you is it did for me. I can tell you this, it definitely won't prevent it.

EQ hair loss seems to be sporadic and random. It was most likely conicidence that when you took proscar with it you experienced shedding.

 

[view]

don't fret guys. EVEN if you lost hair -- it's not permanent and grows right back after your cycle is done.

this is completely wrong.

 

[Prince77]

Ya like I said, propecia will not help hair loss with EQ. Nizoral and minoxidol can help but don't work that well anyway. If you're one of the unlucky ones with EQ, there's not much you can do to stop it.

Why not? Does it act through a different pathway?

 

[Little Boy]

Is there a reason one would take 2% instead of 5% nizoral shampoo?

 

[krishna]

Why not? Does it act through a different pathway?

EQ has minimal interaction with the 5-alpha reductase (5ar) enzyme. Proscar inhibits this enzyme. Since EQ reduces in minimal amounts, and proscar inhibits the enzyme which reduces it, there's no point in taking it unless you're stacking it with test.

 

[Prince77]

EQ has minimal interaction with the 5-alpha reductase (5ar) enzyme. Proscar inhibits this enzyme. Since EQ reduces in minimal amounts, and proscar inhibits the enzyme which reduces it, there's no point in taking it unless you're stacking it with test.

Forgive me for sounding like an idiot as your posts are kick ass and informative and I'm still asking questions lol... So is there any way to fight the sporradic EQ hair loss? Also which compounds work wiht the progesterone pathway (DHB) to cause hair loss? Am I correct in saying Primo, Deca, Tren? How is this avoided or should I say what ancillary can be taken to combat it? Also would taking an ancillary to combat DHB, if it even exists, negate a compound like Primo itself? I think I'm not exactly sure what ancillary does what as there are so many, nolva and arimidex, which obviously fight gyno but do they also fight DHT/DHB? Also Finasteride (Proscar, propecia), dutasteride etc...

I know I am asking alot but it is difficult to put it all together when picking it up peicemeal you know? I know I am asking for ahuge post in response but I would really appreciate it and I think others would too...

Also this is for anyone in the know, aka guru's to answer...

 

[krishna]

DHB? As in dehydroboldenone? That has nothing to do with tren, deca. I'm not sure what you're trying to ask. DHB is what EQ reduces to. It is also a parent structure for primo - primo is a DHB derivative. DHB is slightly more androgenic than boldenone, but like I said earlier, EQ reduces in minimal amounts so inhibiting the 5ar enzyme will have little to no effect. Topical spiro can help with any androgen although it's not highly efficient. At least it gives you something. Any topical product that can clear androgens from the scalp, or block them without interfering with 5ar activity, are safe to use with pretty much any gear. Nizoral has been shown to reduce inflammation associated with hair loss, but its interaction with DHT and 5ar isn't totally clear. A topical androgen antagonist such as spiro is your best bet with anything other than test. Retin-A and minoxidil in combination have also shown decent results.

 

[Prince77]

DHB? As in dehydroboldenone? That has nothing to do with tren, deca. I'm not sure what you're trying to ask.

Lol me either! Well what is the problem with Deca then? What does it reduce to and how do you counter it? Is there anything you can take or is it topical only? What is Spiro short for?

Now about gyno, when you do have a compound that acts through the progesterone pathway, what do you use for that?

 

[krishna]

Lol me either! Well what is the problem with Deca then? What does it reduce to and how do you counter it? Is there anything you can take or is it topical only? What is Spiro short for?

Now about gyno, when you do have a compound that acts through the progesterone pathway, what do you use for that?

Sprio = spironolactone. The problem with taking propecia with deca is that deca in its original form is way more androgenic than when it's reduced to dehydronandrolone (DHN). If you inhibit the 5ar enzyme, you don't allow it to reduce which keeps it in a more androgenic state which is harder on the hair. If you stack it with test, it actually competes for the 5ar enzyme and limits DHT to some degree (although very minimal). If you take proscar with it, you will inhibit DHT formation, but will also keep deca from being reduced, which has caused some serious problems on the hair for some. It's a trade-off in a way. You just have to see which one works better for you. I'd rather not take propecia if stacking it with test, and let deca compete for the 5ar enzyme. I would also probably add topical spiro. DHT is the worst thing for your hair, so some would probably prefer to go the other route and hope the unreduced deca doen't fuck them up.