just a side story, not sure if its true. my roommate used to train with a pretty intense kickboxing instructor out this way. apparently a while ago michael clark duncan started training with this guy, they are trying to get him more mainstream and into different roles. so the word is, he lost 100lbs, lean and mean now. the studio this guy trains at is just a few blocks away, i'd head over there...if i had the inclination. hehe. guess I'll wait for him to surface on the net to see if its true.