How should I add Clen to this cycle?

[reddy]

Cycle help

I allready have the Clen (180x02mg) so please dont suggest something else. How should I add it to this cycle? I'm in week 9 right now.
I was thinking week 10 and 12 then off for 13 and 14 then on for 15, 16,17?
Any thoughts?



*******anavar *******deca *******sust250*******primo

wk1****20mg ed****200mg
wk2****20mg ed****200mg
wk3****20mg ed****200mg
wk4****40mg*******400mg*********250
wk5*****40********400mg********* 250
wk6***** 40********400mg*********250
wk7*****40********400mg*********250
wk8*****40********400mg*********250
wk9*****40********200mg********************400
wk10****40mg******200mg *******************400
wk12***20mg********************************400
wk13***20mg *******************************400
wk14***20mg********************************400
wk15***20mg********************************300
wk16***20mg********************************200

 

[reddy]

Would adding some winny at the end be overboard as well?

 

[Italianboy]

I don't like run clen alone,but I always stack it w/ketotifen fumarate acid.
But if you want go 18days on and then stop for a while(I don't think 2 weks are enough to restart it as many of you say!)

 

[Stew Meat]

I allready have the Clen (180x02mg) so please dont suggest something else. How should I add it to this cycle? I'm in week 9 right now.
I was thinking week 10 and 12 then off for 13 and 14 then on for 15, 16,17?
Any thoughts?



*******anavar *******deca *******sust250*******primo

wk1****20mg ed****200mg
wk2****20mg ed****200mg
wk3****20mg ed****200mg
wk4****40mg*******400mg*********250
wk5*****40********400mg********* 250
wk6***** 40********400mg*********250
wk7*****40********400mg*********250
wk8*****40********400mg*********250
wk9*****40********************************400
wk10****40mg******200mg *******************400
wk12***20mg********************************400
wk13***20mg *******************************400
wk14***20mg********************************400
wk15***20mg********************************300
wk16***20mg********************************200

Don't pyramid the deca. Don't pyramid the primo. Cut the primo to 200mg/wk at week 8. Drop the Deca and sustonon at the same time on week 8 or week 9 (I'd choose week 8 personally). Start clomid therapy 3 weeks after last injection of deca/sustonon.

Start the clen on week 8 and run 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off. On off weeks, substitue with ECA. Start low on the clen (1 tab) and increase dossage by 1 tab per day. Stop when the sides get too bad (around 6-10 tabs per day depending on individual tolerances).

Winny wouldn't be overdoing it. I'd start at 5 weeks before starting clomid therapy and run up until 3 days before your first clomid pill (which should be 300-400 mg the first day).



-Stew

 

[reddy]

Why only 200 mg of the Primo?

 

[Stew Meat]

200mg/wk of primo will not supress hpta much. Any dossage is fine up until the point where you start post cycle recovery. Your natural hormonal axis can not restore with over 200mg/wk of primo in your system.

I personally would never use over 100mg/wk (especially in conjunction with anavar), but lowering to 200mg/wk will be a hell of a lot better for you than the dossage that you stated above.

Primo will not bind to AR in the hypothalamus thus not causing a direct inhibition of leutenizing hormone. However, it has a very strong affinity toward the AR in muscle tissue forcing more natural test (as natural levels recouperate) into non-AR binding circulation which means more will bind to AR in the hypo. and reduce gonadotropin release through feedback inhibition.



-Stew

 

[reddy]

So do you think the cycle is too long then? Should I cut the primo out all together and svae it for my next cycle? I was not thinking of the last 4 weeks as post cycle recovery but rather hoping to still grow during that time. Should I in that case bump up the Sust to 500 and run it till the end?

or should I cut the cycle at week 10 with no introduction of the Primo? If so how long do you think I should wait till I start my next cycle (perhaps the primo stacked with Sust, anavar, and or winny)?

thanks

 

[MUSTANG_18]

I think that cycle is a little to complicated, just try and keep it simple. I would try this
Deca at 300-400mg/week for weeks 1-10
Sust at 500mg/week for weeks 1-10
Anavar at 40mg/Day for weeks 3-10
Alternate between Clen and E/C/A as Stew suggested
You could Bridge with the Primo at 100-200mg/week as well. Good luck!

M18

 

[Stew Meat]

So do you think the cycle is too long then?

Hell yes.

Should I cut the primo out all together and svae it for my next cycle?

Its up to you... If you choose to run it, start at week 6 and run through week 13 at 100mg/wk.

I was not thinking of the last 4 weeks as post cycle recovery but rather hoping to still grow during that time. Should I in that case bump up the Sust to 500 and run it till the end?

#1, you will NOT continue to gain. Humans don't gain past week 8 due to a tolerance. In fact, most don't see any additional gains past week 6.
#2 Sustonon is the worst possible choice of anabolic, especially for a newbie. DROP the sustonon and run 500mg of enthanate through week 10.

If so how long do you think I should wait till I start my next cycle (perhaps the primo stacked with Sust, anavar, and or winny)?

At least 10 weeks. DO NOT start your next cycle until you've had blood work done. Personally, I'g to a step further and pay the $70 to have my testosterone levels checked. When they normalize and your blood test comes out fine, you are ready for your next cycle.





-Stew